this trade would have been good 5 years ago

So the trade is one of the worst goalies in the last 2 years with the worst contract in the NHL for a young superstar to be defenceman??????

That Det trade would work if we have a top 3 pick. We might have to add a second as well. The Price trade isnt happening unfortunately

Why on Earth would Avs do this?

Lol Price isnt one of the worst goalies... He is still a number one playing for a bad team. He is just not playing like a 10,5m goalie right now. Stop saying **** about other teams player if you dont know ****

Yah meanwhile Primeau has been one of the best goalies in the league..... TOP 5

His overall performance equals out to being basically an average goalie... Grubauer>Price

with price in net they'd be cup contenders for the next 5 years min. and ranta,mac,land are in their prime years

If it was 2013-2017 Carey Price? Yes
If it were talking about current Carey Price? NO.
Would you be willing to get a Erik Karlsson since the Habs really need helps on the blueline?
Let's say Cole Caufield, Martin Jones, Alexander Romanov for Erik Karlsson?

price is a top 3 / top 5 goalie in the league per players and GMs.. i dont see grubauer anywhere near

I think the col trade could be possible if MTL retrains like 40 to 50% of the salary. If not it could never ever happen

At the moment Grubauer is better than Price, both statistically and contractually.

Actually, when looking at the contracts, Price's is as bad as it gets.

LMAO

Bergevin is basically paying for what he has previously done which was a horrible decision. Aside from that, based on what I saw, the defence shouldn't be the excuse of Price's current performance. If that were the case, then Andrei Markov and PK Subban are the "real" 2015 Hart trophy winner.

actually Bobrovsky is as bad as it gets

Current Price is having strugle because of the team he has in front, its hard to compete an steal wins night after night with a team full of AHL players
If you trade for Karlsson, SJ will be asking for active players wich mtl are not open to trade if they still want to compete for playoffs

Because NHL GM's and players are so smart.

If it's solely on the team in front of him why did Gibson put up fantastic numbers last year with a probably worse team in front of him, and his hdSV% GSAA, and GSAx (all which take out the team on front of him much more than SV%) are all about average... (Gibson's were elite last year)

Man, montreal fans are straight up delusional about price.

He has negative trade value with that contract

and in a better position to judge than you!

Price has negative trade value at this point in his career

Price is untradeable. Especially with that no move clause

Out of the goalies over the last 2 years with over 2000 minutes TOI (52 goalies)

Price ranks 22nd in SV% (0.9115) - Grub is 15th at (0.9134)

now obviously there's a huge team element there so if you take a look at their performance against expectations, which attempts to isolate goalie results from their team's performance, the picture continues to show price hasnt been good. Expectations look at the difficulty of each save and compare it to the expected save % for that situation, and price has been below average.


Price ranks 33rd in dSV% at -0.25% below xSV% Grub is 24th at 0.08 above xSV% (dSV% = SV% - xSV% - aka difference between SV% and what they are expected to stop).

Price ranks 37th in Goals Saved Above Average at -7.46 GSAA while Grubauer is at 24th with a +1.51 GSAA


So Grub roughly meets expectations of a goalie in his situation, while price has been below average for a goalie in his situation.

That doesnt sound like the kind of goalie I want making $10.5MM, let alone having to give up a decent goalie making $7MM less, and 2 blue chip prospects, Kaut and Byram are 2 of the Avs most recent first round picks.


The habs would have to do Price++ to move that contract at full value for a goalie like grub.

do hats fans crave attention, bc there is no other reason on earth they would keep on posting these horrible Price trades to Colorado.
Its just embarrassing at how bad they are

they both stink, but at least Bob is 500k less and has a M-NTC during the final 2 years of his deal. Price has a straight up NMC the entire length of his contract. Thats just a ticking Time bomb