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Nobody is really losing

Created by: csick
Initial Creation Date: Jan 8, 2020
Published: Jan 8 at 10:21 am
Team: 2020-21 Edmonton Oilers
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Domi, Max8$7,000,000
Jones, Caleb1$900,000
Lagesson, William1$900,000
Georgiev, Alexandar2$2,000,000
Bear, Ethan1$1,000,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Pageau, Jean-Gabriel5$4,750,000
Ennis, Tyler1$1,500,000
Gudas, Radko2$3,500,000
Trades
EDM
  1. Domi, Max [RFA Rights]
MTL
  1. Nurse, Darnell [RFA Rights]
EDM
  1. Palmieri, Kyle
NJD
  1. Russell, Kris
  2. Puljujärvi, Jesse [Reserve List]
  3. 2020 2nd round pick (EDM)
  4. 2022 3rd round pick (EDM)
Additional Details:
3rd becomes 2nd if Palmieri re-signs
EDM
  1. Georgiev, Alexandar [RFA Rights]
  2. Andersson, Lias
NYR
  1. Yamamoto, Kailer
  2. Lagesson, William
  3. 2020 4th round pick (EDM)
Buyouts
  • Andrej Sekera: $2,500,000
  • Benoit Pouliot: $1,333,333
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Milan Lucic: $750,000 (13%)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
EDM
EDM
EDM
EDM
2021
EDM
EDM
EDM
EDM
EDM
EDM
PIT
EDM
2022
EDM
EDM
EDM
EDM
EDM
EDM
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
21$84,000,000$82,144,498$0$1,700,000$1,855,502
Left WingCenterRight Wing
Domi, Max
$7,000,000
C, LW
RFA
EDM
McDavid, Connor
$12,500,000
C
UFA - 6
EDM
Neal, James
$5,750,000
RW, LW
UFA - 3
EDM
Draisaitl, Leon
$8,500,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 5
EDM
Nugent-Hopkins, Ryan
$6,000,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
NJD
Palmieri, Kyle
$4,650,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 1
EDM
Benson, Tyler
$808,333
LW
RFA - 1
Pageau, Jean-Gabriel
$4,750,000
C
NTC
UFA - 6
EDM
Chiasson, Alex
$2,150,000
RW
UFA - 1
NYR
Andersson, Lias
$894,166
C, LW
RFA - 1
EDM
Khaira, Jujhar
$1,200,000
C, LW
RFA - 1
Ennis, Tyler
$1,500,000
C, LW, RW
UFA
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
EDM
Klefbom, Oscar
$4,167,000
LD
UFA - 3
EDM
Larsson, Adam
$4,166,666
RD
UFA - 1
EDM
Koskinen, Mikko
$4,500,000
G
NTC
UFA - 2
EDM
Broberg, Philip
$925,000
LD
RFA - 2
Gudas, Radko
$3,500,000
RD
UFA
Georgiev, Alexandar
$2,000,000
G
RFA
EDM
Jones, Caleb
$900,000
LD
RFA - 2
EDM
Bear, Ethan
$1,000,000
RD
RFA
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
EDM
Gambardella, Joseph
$700,000
LW
UFA - 1

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Jan 8 at 10:23
#1
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Mtl fans are gonna CRY
Jan 8 at 10:24
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KFTW
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Quoting: Cheddamonkey37
Mtl fans are gonna CRY


lol they have enough forwards and prospects to make up for this loss. Its a gain on D tho
Jan 8 at 10:27
#3
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Quoting: csick
lol they have enough forwards and prospects to make up for this loss. Its a gain on D tho


lol still gonna cry
Jan 8 at 10:32
#4
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I don't like the defense at all. You're overpaying a 3RD (Gudas) to play 2RD displacing Ethan Bear who actually plays 1RD now. This move also forces Bouchard back to the minors when he should be NHL ready next fall.

No possible way Broberg is ready to play top-4 next year, he likely won't even be in the NHL. The Oilers are going to be very patient with him.
Jan 8 at 10:35
#5
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I think the Rangers trade is an overpay and Oilers don't want or need Andersson anyhow. Yamamoto is the 2RW now, keeping him negates the need to trade for 1 year of Palmieri.
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Jan 8 at 10:39
#6
Caught in an enigma
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You should throw in Pool Party to the NY trade. Also from an Oilers/Canadiens fan, MTL says no.
Jan 8 at 10:56
#7
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Quoting: csick
lol they have enough forwards and prospects to make up for this loss. Its a gain on D tho


Is it though? From what Oiler fans are saying Nurse is looking to get paid like a top defenceman and he is certainly not that. I'd keep Domi and target other options that aren't going to cost way too much.
Jan 8 at 11:11
#8
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Quoting: PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood
Nurse is looking to get paid like a top defenceman and he is certainly not that.


What criteria is required to be called a "top defenceman" in your opinion?
Jan 8 at 11:16
#9
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Likes: 1,462
Quoting: csick
lol they have enough forwards and prospects to make up for this loss. Its a gain on D tho


Not a gain on D. Watch him play, he's a giveaway machine when there isn't even pressure. Montreal has no interest.
Jan 8 at 11:18
#10
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Quoting: CD282
What criteria is required to be called a "top defenceman" in your opinion?


He has to be an actual top pair defenceman capable of playing against the other teams best, which Nurse has failed at doesn't do. Klefbom is the Oilers best defenceman. Nurse is a flawed player.
Jan 8 at 11:29
#11
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Quoting: PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood
He has to be an actual top pair defenceman capable of playing against the other teams best, which Nurse has failed at doesn't do.


Wrong. Nurse plays against tougher comp than Klefbom: http://puckiq.com/woodmoney?season=20192020&tier=Elite&positions=d&team=edm

He also plays more minutes at 5v5 than Klefbom and has better results across the board: http://naturalstattrick.com/playerteams.php?fromseason=20192020&thruseason=20192020&stype=2&sit=5v5&score=all&stdoi=oi&rate=y&team=EDM&pos=D&loc=B&toi=0&gpfilt=none&fd=&td=&tgp=410&lines=single&draftteam=ALL

His scoring is elite, he's 9th in 5v5 points in the NHL over the past 2.5 years: http://naturalstattrick.com/playerteams.php?fromseason=20172018&thruseason=20192020&stype=2&sit=5v5&score=all&stdoi=std&rate=n&team=ALL&pos=D&loc=B&toi=0&gpfilt=none&fd=&td=&tgp=410&lines=single&draftteam=ALL

He's hugely durable too: 1st in the NHL for GP over the past 2.5 years and 3rd in total TOI: http://naturalstattrick.com/playerteams.php?fromseason=20172018&thruseason=20192020&stype=2&sit=5v5&score=all&stdoi=std&rate=n&team=ALL&pos=D&loc=B&toi=0&gpfilt=none&fd=&td=&tgp=410&lines=single&draftteam=ALL

Quoting: PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood
Nurse is a flawed player.


That's so cliche - every player has flaws.
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Jan 8 at 12:21
#12
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Jan 8 at 1:36
#13
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I'm intrigued by the Domi for Nurse trade.
Jan 8 at 2:05
#14
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Quoting: PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood
Whatever floats your boat boss. Good luck with him as your #1.


MY boat? YOU were the one that set the criteria! tears of joy
 
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