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Moves with SJ NYR OTT

Created by: justaBoss
Team: 2019-20 Tampa Bay Lightning
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 8, 2020
Published: Jan. 8, 2020
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
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Could Burns, Kreider and Pageau elevate them to the next level?
Trades
1.
2.
TBL
  1. Kreider, Chris ($2,312,500 retained)
NYR
  1. Condon, Mike
  2. Joseph, Mathieu
  3. 2020 1st round pick (TBL)
3.
TBL
  1. Pageau, Jean-Gabriel ($1,550,000 retained)
OTT
  1. Rutta, Jan
  2. Volkov, Alexander
  3. 2021 2nd round pick (TBL)
Buyouts
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2020
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2021
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2022
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$76,795,832$0$1,180,000$4,704,168
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$8,500,000$8,500,000
LW, C
NMC
UFA - 5
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$6,750,000$6,750,000
C, RW
UFA - 3
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$9,500,000$9,500,000
RW
UFA - 8
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$2,312,500$2,312,500
LW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$728,333$728,333 (Performance Bonus$182,500$182K)
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$5,300,000$5,300,000
LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 3
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$4,450,000$4,450,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 4
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$1,550,000$1,550,000
C
UFA - 1
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$700,000$700,000
LW
UFA - 1
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$1,650,000$1,650,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$900,000$900,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$7,875,000$7,875,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 6
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$5,280,000$5,280,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 6
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
G
UFA - 1
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$6,750,000$6,750,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 7
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$1,750,000$1,750,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 1
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$1,300,000$1,300,000
G
UFA - 2
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$697,500$697,500 (Performance Bonus$147,500$148K)
RD
UFA - 1
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$894,166$894,166 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LD/RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$1,700,000$1,700,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 2
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$700,000$700,000
LW
UFA - 1
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$675,000$675,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1

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Jan. 8, 2020 at 10:35 a.m.
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Like the NYR deal.
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Jan. 8, 2020 at 10:42 a.m.
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Sharks Decline unless you take Simek out of the deal.
Jan. 8, 2020 at 10:46 a.m.
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Tampa is already in cap hell this summer, Tampa can't afford Burns @ $8 million per for 5 more seasons. Sharks aren't making the playoffs this season so no reason to trade both Johnson and Gourde and their full NTC to San Jose doubt either would waive anyways. Tampa is stuck with them like it or not.
Jan. 8, 2020 at 11:07 a.m.
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Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
Tampa is already in cap hell this summer, Tampa can't afford Burns @ $8 million per for 5 more seasons. Sharks aren't making the playoffs this season so no reason to trade both Johnson and Gourde and their full NTC to San Jose doubt either would waive anyways. Tampa is stuck with them like it or not.


Probably correct. Just assuming for the sake of this trade that they do waive their NTCs.

And considering that Johnson and Gourde (which are both basically signed to as long contract as Burns) take up to $10M out of their cap, acquiring Burns don't really make their situation any worse from what it already is...
Jan. 8, 2020 at 11:07 a.m.
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Sharks Decline unless you take Simek out of the deal.


Simek can be dropped if necessary.
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Jan. 8, 2020 at 11:10 a.m.
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Quoting: BurgerBoss
Probably correct. Just assuming for the sake of this trade that they do waive their NTCs.

And considering that Johnson and Gourde (which are both basically signed to as long contract as Burns) take up to $10M out of their cap, acquiring Burns don't really make their situation any worse from what it already is...

Sharks could retain 500000 on Burns in exchange for a 4th round pick
Jan. 8, 2020 at 11:12 a.m.
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Quoting: Bill_Karsen
Sharks could retain 500000 on Burns in exchange for a 4th round pick


I suppose TB could do that, but would it be wise for the Sharks to hold that money for the next 6 years?
Jan. 8, 2020 at 11:13 a.m.
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Can Tampa move the Vancouver pick since it is conditional and the conditions wont be known before the TDL passes?
Jan. 8, 2020 at 11:15 a.m.
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I suppose TB could do that, but would it be wise for the Sharks to hold that money for the next 6 years?


To be completely honest Burns is one of the last pieces we want to sell. Dillon, Labanc, Sorensen and Maybe...maybe Timo.

The thought of Trading 88 kinda makes me feel sick.
Jan. 8, 2020 at 11:51 a.m.
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Quoting: Bill_Karsen
To be completely honest Burns is one of the last pieces we want to sell. Dillon, Labanc, Sorensen and Maybe...maybe Timo.

The thought of Trading 88 kinda makes me feel sick.


Yeah, but Burns is basically the only one of the star D-men in your team that you can sell... Karlsson and Vlasic with their extra-long contracts and NMCs are basically unmovable.

If you want to retool, or rebuild, Burns is the guy you want to move now when he still brings up good value - even at 35.
Jan. 8, 2020 at 11:59 a.m.
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Quoting: BSpadaro83
Can Tampa move the Vancouver pick since it is conditional and the conditions wont be known before the TDL passes?


Yes they can, and the conditions are known.
But, as if all goes South for Van this pick could be a lottery pick in 2021, I doubt JBB will trade it.
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Jan. 8, 2020 at 1:28 p.m.
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Quoting: BurgerBoss
Probably correct. Just assuming for the sake of this trade that they do waive their NTCs.

And considering that Johnson and Gourde (which are both basically signed to as long contract as Burns) take up to $10M out of their cap, acquiring Burns don't really make their situation any worse from what it already is...


You are correct for this year. next year they have to move 10 million to sign Sergechev, Cirelli and Cernack. At the moment Tyler and Gourde are the best options. By doing this trade next year TB would be without Palat, Killeron, Johnson and Gourde. Hard to replace all 4 forward positions.
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Jan. 8, 2020 at 1:30 p.m.
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You are correct for this year. next year they have to move 10 million to sign Sergechev, Cirelli and Cernack. At the moment Tyler and Gourde are the best options. By doing this trade next year TB would be without Palat, Killeron, Johnson and Gourde. Hard to replace all 4 forward positions.


I'd suggest moving Sergachev at the draft and re-signing Kreider maybe, but you have a point.
Jan. 8, 2020 at 1:38 p.m.
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I'd suggest moving Sergachev at the draft and re-signing Kreider maybe, but you have a point.


8 weeks ago I would have agreed. Sergechev has made great improvements. More physical, even fought, defensively much better. I remember Hedman at this age fans were calling him a bum. Defenseman hard to find and we suck at drafting defense so I am inclined to keep him.
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Jan. 8, 2020 at 1:46 p.m.
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I'd suggest moving Sergachev at the draft and re-signing Kreider maybe, but you have a point.


Trading away Sergachev would be like shooting ourselves in the foot. The guy is 21 and has made such an amazing improvement overall in his game that he looks poised to become a Russian version of Hedman, less agile in skating but with more physical presence.
Hedman himself at 21 wasn't looking as good as Sergachev now.

Plus, people on here fail to realise that teams usually don't trade away their elite young players (especially Dmen).
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Jan. 8, 2020 at 1:49 p.m.
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Trading away Sergachev would be like shooting ourselves in the foot. The guy is 21 and has made such an amazing improvement overall in his game that he looks poised to become a Russian version of Hedman, less agile in skating but with more physical presence.
Hedman himself at 21 wasn't looking as good as Sergachev now.


Depends on the return moving Sergachev would bring, of course. But he'd be a hefty loss, that's for sure.
 
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