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iF MTL decides to tear it down

Created by: DocArin0
Initial Creation Date: Jan 9, 2020
Published: Jan 9 at 10:56 am
Team: 2019-20 Montreal Canadiens
Team Explanation
Thoughts? If you think i over/under valued someone please don't just say bad trade would love to hear why you don't agree.
Trades
MTL
  1. Tippett, Owen
  2. Pysyk, Mark
  3. 2020 1st round pick (FLA)
Additional Details:
* FLA can choose use the 2020 1st at the draft, If they choose to use the 2020 1st they forfeit a 2021 1st + 2021 3rd
FLA
  1. Petry, Jeff
  2. 2020 4th round pick (MTL)
MTL
  1. Välimäki, Juuso
  2. 2020 2nd round pick (CGY)
  3. 2021 2nd round pick (CGY)
CGY
  1. Danault, Phillip
  2. Thompson, Nate
MTL
  1. 2020 1st round pick (ANA)
  2. 2021 2nd round pick (ANA)
Top 9 LW Projected Prospect in the 18-21 Age range
ANA
  1. Gallagher, Brendan
Additional Details:
Gallagher can be traded to any team. I expect this to be the return for him.
I assume this trade happens in Late june before the draft.
Buyouts
  • Steve Mason: $1,366,667
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Marco Scandella: $2,000,000 (50%)
  • Ilya Kovalchuk: $350,000 (50%)
Buried
  • Karl Alzner: $3,550,000 ($4,625,000)
  • Keith Kinkaid: $675,000 ($1,750,000)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
MTL
FLA
ANA
MTL
CHI
CGY
MTL
ANA
WPG
MTL
FLA
MTL
CHI
2021
MTL
MTL
CGY
ANA
MTL
CHI
MTL
MTL
OTT
MTL
2022
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
22$81,500,000$68,690,475$0$3,057,500$12,809,525
Left WingCenterRight Wing
MTL
Drouin, Jonathan
$5,500,000
LW
UFA - 4
MTL
Domi, Max
$3,150,000
C, LW
RFA - 1
MTL
Lehkonen, Artturi
$2,400,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
MTL
Tatar, Tomas
$4,800,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
MTL
Kotkaniemi, Jesperi
$925,000
C, LW
RFA - 2
MTL
Peca, Matthew
$1,300,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
MTL
Byron, Paul
$3,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 4
MTL
Suzuki, Nick
$863,333
C, RW
RFA - 3
MTL
Armia, Joel
$2,600,000
RW
UFA - 2
MTL
Kovalchuk, Ilya
$350,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
MTL
Weal, Jordan
$1,400,000
C, RW, LW
UFA - 2
MTL
Cousins, Nick
$1,000,000
C, LW, RW
RFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
MTL
Chiarot, Ben
$3,500,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 3
MTL
Weber, Shea
$7,857,143
RD
UFA - 7
MTL
Price, Carey
$10,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 7
MTL
Kulak, Brett
$1,850,000
LD
UFA - 3
FLA
Pysyk, Mark
$2,733,333
RD
UFA - 1
MTL
Lindgren, Charlie
$750,000
G
UFA - 2
MTL
Mete, Victor
$748,333
LD
RFA - 1
MTL
Scandella, Marco
$2,000,000
LD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
MTL
Weise, Dale
$2,350,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
MTL
Fleury, Cale
$771,666
RD
RFA - 2

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Jan 9 at 10:58
#1
Let's Go Rangers!
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Danault isn't going anywhere... Tatar could be traded tho... and sratching Mete while playing Pysyk is as dumb as it gets
Jan 9 at 11:00
#2
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Quoting: KakkoForMauriceRichardAward
Danault isn't going anywhere... Tatar could be traded tho... and sratching Mete while playing Pysyk is as dumb as it gets


I was not to concerned with the lines. Just wanted to have the cap hit accurate more then anything
Jan 9 at 11:06
#3
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Danault is great, but come on Valimaki + 2 2nd round pick lmao CGY decline
Jan 9 at 11:12
#4
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Quoting: GMs
Danault is great, but come on Valimaki + 2 2nd round pick lmao CGY decline


I was not to sure of Danaults value. I wanted to do Valimaki + 1st + Roster player but i did not want to swing to far the other way
Jan 9 at 11:45
#5
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Quoting: GMs
Danault is great, but come on Valimaki + 2 2nd round pick lmao CGY decline


Hey body that my new account. The old sebybbq ??
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Jan 9 at 11:51
#6
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Quoting: DocArin0
I was not to sure of Danaults value. I wanted to do Valimaki + 1st + Roster player but i did not want to swing to far the other way


I think Valimaki + 2nd round pick is fair but their fans will say no
Jan 9 at 12:11
#7
KovalchukFor2RDP
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I think this isn't all that much a tear-down, but okay

Petry may get you more, on pace for 45 pts.
Danault may not move due to KK not playing well, also Poehling will play over Peca. Even Cousins will (on pace for 25 pts).
If you do decide to move Danault, Suzuki will play 2C
Jan 9 at 12:14
#8
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I know the more the merrier but how many LDs does Montreal need? If we look in the system we've got 6 guys that are potentially good* (Struble, Norlinder, Romanov, Harris, Fairbrother and LeGuerrier) plus Chiarot and Kulak are signed 3 more years and Mete will clearly be resigned.
As of now biggest need to build for the future would be wingers, once Gallagher and Tatar start regressing we'll be in a tough spot with only Caufield and Ylönen having top 6 upsides.

All in all trades should target wingers and RDs, especially if you trade away Petry.

*Not said to be a bust.
Jan 9 at 12:16
#9
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Quoting: MaxDomi13
I think this isn't all that much a tear-down, but okay

Petry may get you more, on pace for 45 pts.
Danault may not move due to KK not playing well, also Poehling will play over Peca. Even Cousins will (on pace for 25 pts).
If you do decide to move Danault, Suzuki will play 2C


I just removed pieces i thought were Moveable. IMO Weber/Price have untouchable contracts. Domi, Drouin, Kotkaniemi & Gallagher are untouchables at least for this year. I think Gallagher wont be a Hab come Feb of next year but i don't think they are at that point to trade him yet
Jan 9 at 12:19
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Quoting: ColonelX
I know the more the merrier but how many LDs does Montreal need? If we look in the system we've got 6 guys that are potentially good* (Struble, Norlinder, Romanov, Harris, Fairbrother and LeGuerrier) plus Chiarot and Kulak are signed 3 more years and Mete will clearly be resigned.
As of now biggest need to build for the future would be wingers, once Gallagher and Tatar start regressing we'll be in a tough spot with only Caufield and Ylönen having top 6 upsides.

All in all trades should target wingers and RDs, especially if you trade away Petry.

*Not said to be a bust.


I agree in all aspects. I feel CGY trade comes together because while all those guys you named are going to be solid NHL players i dont think any of them with confidence you could say are going to be Top pair material on more than half of the league. Valimaki IMO is the Top pair LHD prospect Habs need at the moment.
Jan 9 at 12:24
#11
KovalchukFor2RDP
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Quoting: DocArin0
I just removed pieces i thought were Moveable. IMO Weber/Price have untouchable contracts. Domi, Drouin, Kotkaniemi & Gallagher are untouchables at least for this year. I think Gallagher wont be a Hab come Feb of next year but i don't think they are at that point to trade him yet


I think maybe weber/price can be moved if a team is desperate for defense (right side) *cough* TOR *cough* or desperate for goalie *cough* CBJ *cough*
Jan 9 at 12:27
#12
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Quoting: MaxDomi13
I think maybe weber/price can be moved if a team is desperate for defense (right side) *cough* TOR *cough* or desperate for goalie *cough* CBJ *cough*


I cant imagine any team doing it. just because the cost of either of those players is going to be 1-2 1st + A+ Level prospect + Roster player and the trade bites them in the ass in the last 2-4 Years of each of their deals.
Jan 9 at 12:29
#13
KovalchukFor2RDP
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Quoting: DocArin0
I cant imagine any team doing it. just because the cost of either of those players is going to be 1-2 1st + A+ Level prospect + Roster player and the trade bites them in the ass in the last 2-4 Years of each of their deals.


Maybe it could just be a 1st or an A+ and D- prospect?
btw how do you tell what grade a prospect is
Jan 9 at 12:37
#14
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Quoting: MaxDomi13
Maybe it could just be a 1st or an A+ and D- prospect?
btw how do you tell what grade a prospect is


Sorry i did scouting for OHL teams so its what i am use to grading as. Letter grades are assigned to players whom have shown ability that you feel can progress to the next level/skill cap

Level 4 / A: Top Pair | Top 6 Forwards
Level 3 / B: Middle 6 Forwards | Middle Pair Defence
Level 2 / C: Bottom 6 Forwards | Middle/Bottom Pair Defence
Level 1 / D: 4th Line Forwards | 6/7th Defencemen

These grades are always assigned to skills they have that can be transitioned to the next level. its a broad classification
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Jan 9 at 1:42
#15
KovalchukFor2RDP
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Quoting: DocArin0
Sorry i did scouting for OHL teams so its what i am use to grading as. Letter grades are assigned to players whom have shown ability that you feel can progress to the next level/skill cap

Level 4 / A: Top Pair | Top 6 Forwards
Level 3 / B: Middle 6 Forwards | Middle Pair Defence
Level 2 / C: Bottom 6 Forwards | Middle/Bottom Pair Defence
Level 1 / D: 4th Line Forwards | 6/7th Defencemen

These grades are always assigned to skills they have that can be transitioned to the next level. its a broad classification


Oh. And then F is no NHL potential lol...
Jan 9 at 2:18
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Quoting: MaxDomi13
Oh. And then F is no NHL potential lol...


Yea F is your player whom is felt does not have the skill set to transition to a higher skill level, Players in this classification are determined to be passed in drafts
 
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