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Would Wild move Brodin

Created by: Caniac555
Initial Creation Date: Jan 9, 2020
Published: Jan 9 at 11:37 am
Team: 2019-20 Carolina Hurricanes
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Looking for a solid 2LHD, what would it take to move 2 years of JB?
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  1. Brodin, Jonas
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    Buyouts
    • Patrick Marleau: $6,250,000
    • Alexander Semin: $2,333,333
    Retained Salary Transactions
    • Justin Faulk: $683,333 (14%)
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    NYR
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    2021
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    2022
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    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
    23$81,500,000$84,572,333$0$4,507,500-$3,072,333
    Left WingCenterRight Wing
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    Svechnikov, Andrei
    $925,000
    LW, RW
    RFA - 2
    CAR
    Aho, Sebastian
    $8,454,000
    C, LW
    UFA - 5
    CAR
    Williams, Justin
    $700,000
    RW
    UFA - 1
    CAR
    Niederreiter, Nino
    $5,250,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 3
    CAR
    Staal, Jordan
    $6,000,000
    C, LW
    NMC
    UFA - 4
    CAR
    Teräväinen, Teuvo
    $5,400,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 5
    CAR
    Dzingel, Ryan
    $3,375,000
    LW, RW, C
    UFA - 2
    CAR
    Haula, Erik
    $2,750,000
    C, LW
    UFA - 1
    CAR
    Necas, Martin
    $863,333
    C, RW
    RFA - 3
    CAR
    Foegele, Warren
    $746,667
    LW
    RFA - 1
    CAR
    Wallmark, Lucas
    $675,000
    C
    RFA - 1
    CAR
    Martinook, Jordan
    $2,000,000
    C, LW, RW
    UFA - 2
    CAR
    McGinn, Brock
    $2,100,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 2
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    CAR
    Slavin, Jaccob
    $5,300,000
    LD
    UFA - 6
    CAR
    Hamilton, Dougie
    $5,750,000
    RD
    UFA - 2
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    Mrázek, Petr
    $3,125,000
    G
    UFA - 2
    MIN
    Brodin, Jonas
    $4,166,667
    LD
    UFA - 2
    CAR
    Pesce, Brett
    $4,025,000
    RD
    UFA - 5
    CAR
    Reimer, James
    $3,400,000
    G
    UFA - 2
    CAR
    Gardiner, Jake
    $4,050,000
    LD
    NTC
    UFA - 4
    CAR
    Edmundson, Joel
    $3,100,000
    LD
    UFA - 1
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
    CAR
    Fleury, Haydn
    $850,000
    LD
    RFA - 1
    CAR
    van Riemsdyk, Trevor
    $2,300,000
    RD
    UFA - 1

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    Jan 9 at 11:42
    #1
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    IMO 1st + A level Prospect
    Jan 9 at 11:52
    #2
    KFTW
    Joined: Jul 2018
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    Quoting: DocArin0
    IMO 1st + A level Prospect


    isn't that too much for a guy with 1 year left on his deal
    Jan 9 at 11:52
    #3
    KFTW
    Joined: Jul 2018
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    bruh stop bringing in D men haha and ship out some players for top talent
    Jan 9 at 11:57
    #4
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    i think if brodin is trade ita gonna have to be a very good center coming back
    Jan 9 at 11:59
    #5
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    I'm not sure Guerin would move Brodin. His contract expires right before the expansion draft, so a handshake agreement to re-sign him after the expansion draft while the Wild protect Suter, Spurgeon, and either Dumba or Soucy is a good way to reduce the chances of losing a good player to Seattle.
    Jan 9 at 12:08
    #6
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    Not sure what it would take, but why would the canes do this? They have a pretty stacked D core right now. Use that cap space to add a decent 1A 1B goalie
    Jan 9 at 12:08
    #7
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    Hurricane Waddell
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    These tell me everything I need to know - I’ll move on...

    Quoting: JayTea
    I'm not sure Guerin would move Brodin. His contract expires right before the expansion draft, so a handshake agreement to re-sign him after the expansion draft while the Wild protect Suter, Spurgeon, and either Dumba or Soucy is a good way to reduce the chances of losing a good player to Seattle.


    Quoting: DocArin0
    IMO 1st + A level Prospect
    Jan 9 at 12:11
    #8
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    Hurricane Waddell
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    Believe it or not - we actually have a gap on the 2nd pairing next to Pesce that Gardiner Edmundson and Fleury are struggling to fill. Having a solid defensively responsible 2LHD would be an ideal TDL move, but appears It will need to be elsewhere...

    Oh, BTW, it wouldn’t stop us from looking at Goalies either.

    Quoting: masterjuddi
    Not sure what it would take, but why would the canes do this? They have a pretty stacked D core right now. Use that cap space to add a decent 1A 1B goalie
    Jan 9 at 12:12
    #9
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    Quoting: Caniac555
    Believe it or not - we actually have a gap on the 2nd pairing next to Pesce that Gardiner Edmundson and Fleury are struggling to fill. Having a solid defensively responsible 2LHD would be an ideal TDL move, but appears It will need to be elsewhere


    Makes sense. Im not gonna pretend to know the ins and outs of the Canes roster. One thing I know for sure being a jets fan, Im jealous of what you guys have there
    Jan 9 at 12:13
    #10
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    Hurricane Waddell
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    Well, we might be able to help you out

    Quoting: masterjuddi
    Makes sense. Im not gonna pretend to know the ins and outs of the Canes roster. One thing I know for sure being a jets fan, Im jealous of what you guys have there
    Jan 9 at 12:14
    #11
    Joined: Dec 2018
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    Quoting: csick
    isn't that too much for a guy with 1 year left on his deal


    Brodin has 2 1/2 Years left. the most recent trade for a comparable would have to be Leafs for Muzzin. TOR had to pay a 1st + B Level Prospect + Young Bottom Pair Defencemen for Muzzin with 1 1/2 years left
    Jan 9 at 12:32
    #12
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    We do not need a 2LD. Jake is a great 2LD. Edmundson is.... not Haydn is fine as a 3LD and TvR as a 3RD is fine.
    Jan 9 at 1:04
    #13
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    Hurricane Waddell
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    Your opinion, not mine. Not wanting to re-open this discussion, no offense.

    Quoting: Caniac2000
    We do not need a 2LD. Jake is a great 2LD. Edmundson is.... not Haydn is fine as a 3LD and TvR as a 3RD is fine.
    Jan 9 at 7:36
    #14
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    Quoting: Caniac555
    Your opinion, not mine. Not wanting to re-open this discussion, no offense.


    My stats, not opinions. Not a discussion, just the truth. Gards is fine, we don't need more cap locked up on the blue line
    Jan 9 at 8:39
    #15
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    Hurricane Waddell
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    I hope we all find someone as much as @Caniac2000 loves Jake Gardiner. For me, I’m still skeptical but I’m also not trying to trade him. I hope it works out for sure.

    Quoting: Caniac2000
    My stats, not opinions. Not a discussion, just the truth. Gards is fine, we don't need more cap locked up on the blue line
    Jan 9 at 9:11
    #16
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    Quoting: Caniac555
    I hope we all find someone as much as @Caniac2000 loves Jake Gardiner. For me, I’m still skeptical but I’m also not trying to trade him. I hope it works out for sure.


    Bro, I don't love him. I believe in the stats that say he's good. They were right with the Nino trade, they were right with the Skinner trade, Gardiner is cheaper than Faulk and all analytical stats suggest he's better. Don't try being derogitory with me
    Jan 9 at 9:18
    #17
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    Hurricane Waddell
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    I’m not your bro...also I said I hope it works out. I’m a fan too, I’m just not buying into the analytics yet. For ever stat you’ve stated about JG in the past there is an opposing stat that casts doubt.

    My biggest concern is he looks extremely slow on the ice and laboring like he’s still injured. He has no margin for error because he can’t make up ice due to his unexplosive skating.

    Quoting: Caniac2000
    Bro, I don't love him. I believe in the stats that say he's good. They were right with the Nino trade, they were right with the Skinner trade, Gardiner is cheaper than Faulk and all analytical stats suggest he's better. Don't try being derogitory with me
    Jan 9 at 9:33
    #18
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    Quoting: Caniac555
    I’m not your bro...also I said I hope it works out. I’m a fan too, I’m just not buying into the analytics yet. For ever stat you’ve stated about JG in the past there is an opposing stat that casts doubt.

    My biggest concern is he looks extremely slow on the ice and laboring like he’s still injured. He has no margin for error because he can’t make up ice due to his unexplosive skating.


    Nah, bro. You wanna be making jokes about how I feel about garidner, you're gonna put up with it. The only stat that suggests for a second Gardiner has been bad is his +/-, which his analytics explain, but as you said you're "not buying into the analytics" So that's your own bad. Gardiner asa top 4 D man has been fine, he's been allowed to actually play top 4 minutes now that Rod's affection for Edmundson has died down and he's flourished. Yes, you're gonna say he looks slow and whatever, but your eyes can lie to you. You can see what you want to see. It's why I have STATS and FACTS to back up that Jake Gardiner is a top 4 D man, and that there is no need to waste more cap on the best blueline in hockey, and Joel Edmundson .
     
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