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Yo Habs fans - the biggest reason why COL is not trading Grubauer for Price

Created by: BurgerBoss
Initial Creation Date: Jan 9, 2020
Published: Jan 9 at 2:24 pm
Team: 2019-20 Colorado Avalanche
Team Explanation
Because they're not getting a major upgrade to their goaltending, and it most likely prevents them from re-signing Landeskog.

But moving Tatar should work for both teams.
Trades
COL
  1. Tatar, Tomas
MTL
  1. Kamenev, Vladislav
  2. Mutala, Sasha [Reserve List]
  3. 2020 1st round pick (COL)
Buyouts
  • Brooks Orpik: $1,500,000
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Tyson Barrie: $2,750,000 (50%)
Buried
  • Kevin Connauton: $300,000 ($1,375,000)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
TOR
COL
COL
FLA
COL
2021
COL
COL
COL
COL
COL
COL
COL
2022
COL
COL
COL
COL
COL
COL
COL
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$78,109,761$0$3,532,500$3,390,239
Left WingCenterRight Wing
COL
Landeskog, Gabriel
$5,571,429
LW
NTC
UFA - 2
COL
MacKinnon, Nathan
$6,300,000
C, RW
UFA - 4
COL
Rantanen, Mikko
$9,250,000
RW
UFA - 6
MTL
Tatar, Tomas
$4,800,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
COL
Kadri, Nazem
$4,500,000
C
NTC
UFA - 3
COL
Donskoi, Joonas
$3,900,000
RW
UFA - 4
COL
Burakovsky, André
$3,250,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
COL
Jost, Tyson
$885,833
C, LW, RW
RFA - 1
COL
Compher, J.T.
$3,500,000
RW, C
UFA - 4
COL
Calvert, Matt
$2,850,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
COL
Wilson, Colin
$2,600,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
COL
Nichushkin, Valeri
$850,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
COL
Zadorov, Nikita
$3,200,000
LD
RFA - 1
COL
Makar, Cale
$880,833
RD
RFA - 2
COL
Grubauer, Philipp
$3,333,333
G
UFA - 2
COL
Girard, Samuel
$728,333
LD
UFA - 1
COL
Johnson, Erik
$6,000,000
RD
NMC NTC
UFA - 4
COL
Francouz, Pavel
$950,000
G
UFA - 1
COL
Cole, Ian
$4,250,000
LD
UFA - 2
COL
Graves, Ryan
$735,000
LD
RFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
COL
Nieto, Matt
$1,975,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
COL
Bellemare, Pierre-Édouard
$1,800,000
LW, C
UFA - 2
COL
Barberio, Mark
$1,450,000
LD
UFA - 1

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Jan 9 at 2:28
#1
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Wholeheartedly agree on all points.
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Jan 9 at 2:31
#2
math731
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Yeah youre right... I see EDM, VAN or CGY as better fits. Those teams needs a true 1G.
Jan 9 at 2:35
#3
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Price no salary retained worth nothing less than MacKinnon
Jan 9 at 2:35
#4
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Burgers and Hockey
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Quoting: math731
Yeah youre right... I see EDM, VAN or CGY as better fits. Those teams needs a true 1G.


Funny, considering all 1Gs of these teams have performed better than Price this year. All of Koskinen, Markström and Rittich have SV% over 0,91 and GAA around 2.8. Price has SV% of 0.902 and GAA of over 3.
The amount of games they've played are also quite comparable.
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Jan 9 at 2:37
#5
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Burgers and Hockey
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Quoting: GMs
Price no salary retained worth nothing less than MacKinnon


I like your sarcasm.
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Jan 9 at 2:37
#6
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Quoting: BurgerBoss
I like your sarcasm.


Thanks ?
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Jan 9 at 2:38
#7
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Quoting: GMs
Thanks ?


Quoting: BurgerBoss
I like your sarcasm.


That wasn't sarcasm. Mac daddy for Price 1 for 1
Jan 9 at 2:42
#8
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Doubtful that gets you Tatar with the way he's been producing for MTL. Kamenev would be at best 5th or 6th on MTL's C depth chart right now, with 3 of those ahead of him being younger. Mutala does peak my interest a bit but not much. A late 1st for a top 6 winger on pace for nearly 70 points, in a career year but still, and with another year remaining at a decent cap just isn't likely to do it.
Jan 9 at 2:44
#9
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Burgers and Hockey
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Quoting: J2W
Doubtful that gets you Tatar with the way he's been producing for MTL. Kamenev would be at best 5th or 6th on MTL's C depth chart right now, with 3 of those ahead of him being younger. Mutala does peak my interest a bit but not much. A late 1st for a top 6 winger on pace for nearly 70 points, in a career year but still, and with another year remaining at a decent cap just isn't likely to do it.


Fair enough. What would you like to get more then?
Jan 9 at 2:52
#10
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If there's a trade for sure they'd ask for the homeboy Beaucage. Tatar for a 1st 2020 + Beaucage + Mutala, I'd gladly try to pull Sampo Ranta with it but don't think I could add prospect in the trade.
Jan 9 at 2:53
#11
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Quoting: BurgerBoss
Fair enough. What would you like to get more then?


If Colorado was willing to part with Timmins I would say add him in, maybe in place of one of the others, because MTL only has 3 young RD and Petry and Weber are aging, but that might push it to far in MTL's favour depending on how they feel about him. Also MTL would need to make some other small side deals to clear contract space, but that's just basic housekeeping.
Jan 9 at 2:57
#12
KovalchukFor2RDP
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What if MTL retained half and took a small cap dump
Jan 9 at 3:05
#13
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Quoting: ColonelX
If there's a trade for sure they'd ask for the homeboy Beaucage. Tatar for a 1st 2020 + Beaucage + Mutala, I'd gladly try to pull Sampo Ranta with it but don't think I could add prospect in the trade.


I could maybe see them doing Kamenev+Beaucage+1st for Tatar+Kulak.
Jan 9 at 3:06
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Quoting: J2W
If Colorado was willing to part with Timmins I would say add him in, maybe in place of one of the others, because MTL only has 3 young RD and Petry and Weber are aging, but that might push it to far in MTL's favour depending on how they feel about him. Also MTL would need to make some other small side deals to clear contract space, but that's just basic housekeeping.


Timmins is most likely off limits. MTL have more RHD prospect than COL has.
Jan 9 at 3:06
#15
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Quoting: MaxDomi13
What if MTL retained half and took a small cap dump


Wait, retained on Tatar or retained on Price?
Jan 9 at 3:09
#16
KovalchukFor2RDP
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Quoting: BurgerBoss
Wait, retained on Tatar or retained on Price?


Price
Jan 9 at 3:20
#17
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Don't see this trade working for Montreal. They could get more elsewhere.
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Jan 9 at 3:23
#18
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Quoting: BurgerBoss
Timmins is most likely off limits. MTL have more RHD prospect than COL has.


That's what I figured. I'm not sure what Colorado would be willing to add, and what MTL would want depends on how big of a selloff they are doing when Tatar goes.
Jan 9 at 4:11
#19
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Quoting: BurgerBoss
Funny, considering all 1Gs of these teams have performed better than Price this year. All of Koskinen, Markström and Rittich have SV% over 0,91 and GAA around 2.8. Price has SV% of 0.902 and GAA of over 3.
The amount of games they've played are also quite comparable.


If you look closer to the stats of those goalie carey price doesn’t received a tons of shot like the other goaltender. Mtl average more than 15 scoring chance against right in the red zone a game. I think they are last in the league. Carey price haven’t been great this year but the team have played awful in front of him hiving top end chance after chance. A lot of the goal score against him have been cross ice pass. So is stats are not great but that doesn’t reflect the true reality since he have been shar’ in a lot of game saving big time goal but he is human. He can’t always save goal on cross ice 2-1 pass or when defenseman blow coverage and let a man right in the slut. Just watch a few game of the habs and you will understand what i am saying.
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Jan 9 at 5:49
#20
habs_fan
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id want more and to bring back a ld
 
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