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Bergevin has no choice he has to sell

Initial Creation Date: Jan 10, 2020
Published: Jan 10 at 7:03 pm
Team: 2019-20 Montreal Canadiens
Team Explanation
Fire Julien
Trades
MTL
  1. Gagner, Sam
  2. Benson, Tyler
  3. 2021 1st round pick (EDM)
  4. 2022 3rd round pick (EDM)
Additional Details:
Gagner is a cap dump, that's why I added a 3rd rounder
EDM
  1. Tatar, Tomas ($1,000,000 retained)
Additional Details:
Montreal gets a great prospect, a couple of picks and a guy who they can use until the end of the season so buy time for their kids current;y playing in Laval. Edmonton gets more scoring on the wings, which they desperately need.
MTL
  1. Roy, Nicolas
  2. Holden, Nick
  3. 2021 2nd round pick (NJD)
  4. 2020 3rd round pick (NJD)
  5. 2022 3rd round pick (VGK)
VGK
  1. Petry, Jeff ($1,500,000 retained)
Additional Details:
Montreal gets a depth D-man to buy time so that Brook doesn't have to play in the NHL right away(he'S not ready), they get a quebecer who can maybe become a valuable part of their bottom 6 for years to come. The also get three picks(the 2020 NJD 3rd rounder will basically be a 2nd rounder givent the fact that it's gonna be top 5 in that round).

Also, it's likely that Vegas could drop until 2022 so the 2022 3rd rounder could also be around 100 overall that year.
MTL
  1. 2021 4th round pick (FLA)
To any team that needs a slight upgrade to their bottom 6
FLA
  1. Cousins, Nick
MTL
  1. 2020 5th round pick (NSH)
Bryan Boyle replacement
NSH
  1. Thompson, Nate
MTL
  1. 2021 4th round pick (BOS)
  2. 2020 7th round pick (BOS)
BOS
  1. Kovalchuk, Ilya
Buyouts
  • Steve Mason: $1,366,667
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Tomas Tatar: $1,000,000 (20.83%)
  • Jeff Petry: $1,500,000 (27.27%)
  • Marco Scandella: $2,000,000 (50%)
  • Ilya Kovalchuk: $350,000 (50%)
Buried
  • Karl Alzner: $3,550,000 ($4,625,000)
  • Dale Weise: $1,275,000 ($2,350,000)
  • Keith Kinkaid: $675,000 ($1,750,000)
  • Matthew Peca: $225,000 ($1,300,000)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
MTL
MTL
CHI
MTL
NJD
MTL
ANA
WPG
MTL
FLA
NSH
MTL
CHI
BOS
2021
MTL
EDM
MTL
NJD
MTL
CHI
MTL
FLA
BOS
MTL
OTT
MTL
2022
MTL
MTL
MTL
EDM
VGK
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
22$81,500,000$73,670,475$0$3,977,500$7,829,525
Left WingCenterRight Wing
MTL
Drouin, Jonathan
$5,500,000
LW
UFA - 4
MTL
Danault, Phillip
$3,083,333
C
UFA - 2
MTL
Gallagher, Brendan
$3,750,000
RW
UFA - 2
MTL
Lehkonen, Artturi
$2,400,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
MTL
Domi, Max
$3,150,000
C, LW
RFA - 1
MTL
Suzuki, Nick
$863,333
C, RW
RFA - 3
MTL
Poehling, Ryan
$925,000
C, LW
RFA - 2
MTL
Kotkaniemi, Jesperi
$925,000
C, LW
RFA - 2
MTL
Armia, Joel
$2,600,000
RW
UFA - 2
MTL
Byron, Paul
$3,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 4
VGK
Roy, Nicolas
$720,000
C
RFA - 1
EDM
Gagner, Sam
$2,835,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
MTL
Weal, Jordan
$1,400,000
C, RW, LW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
MTL
Mete, Victor
$748,333
LD
RFA - 1
MTL
Weber, Shea
$7,857,143
RD
UFA - 7
MTL
Price, Carey
$10,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 7
MTL
Chiarot, Ben
$3,500,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 3
MTL
Fleury, Cale
$771,666
RD
RFA - 2
MTL
Lindgren, Charlie
$750,000
G
UFA - 2
MTL
Scandella, Marco
$2,000,000
LD
UFA - 1
VGK
Holden, Nick
$2,200,000
RD
UFA - 1
MTL
Kulak, Brett
$1,850,000
LD
UFA - 3

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Jan 10 at 7:12
#1
First NY Then LA
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My Rule #1: you're not allowed to trade a hometown boy away from his hometown team.
Jan 10 at 7:17
#2
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Jets offer MTL:

Max Domi w/ 7 x 7,142,857 extension
For
Kristian Vesalainen
Sami Niku
Logan Stanley
Michael Spacek
2020 1st rd pick
2021 2nd rd pick
Jan 10 at 7:28
#3
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No way are the Oilers going to trade all that for Tartar.
Jan 10 at 7:33
#4
Thread Starter
Let's Go Rangers!
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Quoting: Copenhagen
No way are the Oilers going to trade all that for Tartar.


That's the market. Maybe the 3rd rounder is too much, but there are certainly gonna be 3-4 teams battling to get Tatar...
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Jan 10 at 7:36
#5
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Quoting: tsyls
Jets offer MTL:

Max Domi w/ 7 x 7,142,857 extension
For
Kristian Vesalainen
Sami Niku
Logan Stanley
Michael Spacek
2020 1st rd pick
2021 2nd rd pick


Shouldn't Winnipeg be looking for a defenseman first?
Jan 10 at 7:38
#6
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Quoting: KakkoForMauriceRichardAward
That's the market. Maybe the 3rd rounder is too much, but there are certainly gonna be 3-4 teams battling to get Tatar...


First off, Holland said he is not trading his 1st round pick, Secondly the Oilers are not trading home town boy Benson or their will be a revolt. If that is the market, which I dont think it is, the Oilers will NOT be involved in a Tartar trade, be will stay on the Canadians. That value is higher than Mark Stone trade and I will take Stone 10 out of 10 times over Tartar. Stone is one of the top 5 wingers in the NHL, that guy does everything right. IMO
Jan 10 at 7:39
#7
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Quoting: ColonelX
Shouldn't Winnipeg be looking for a defenseman first?


Yeah that's what I was thinking. They already have a wicked top 6 they don't need to add more to that.
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Jan 10 at 7:40
#8
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Quoting: Copenhagen
First off, Holland said he is not trading his 1st round pick, Secondly the Oilers are not trading home town boy Benson or their will be a revolt. If that is the market, which I dont think it is, the Oilers will NOT be involved in a Tartar trade, be will stay on the Canadians. That value is higher than Mark Stone trade and I will take Stone 10 out of 10 times over Tartar. Stone is one of the top 5 wingers in the NHL, that guy does everything right. IMO


Brannstrom is a better prospect than Benson
Jan 10 at 7:40
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I think Nate Thompson brings a lot more in the locker room than a 5th round will. We should keep him here especially through this tough stretch. That Oilers 1st has to be this year, it's more valuable for Marc to be a home pick.
Jan 10 at 7:41
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Quoting: Copenhagen
No way are the Oilers going to trade all that for Tartar.


The Oilers shouldn't trade for anyone, they should sell and get anything that they can. They are barely a playoff team and any injury to McDavid and Draisaitl and the team may not win a game in the NHL. I have no idea how they will fix this disaster
Jan 10 at 7:42
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Quoting: ColonelX
Shouldn't Winnipeg be looking for a defenseman first?


Hah, I mean we need a 2c and a dman. I think our top 4 will be fine. Once kulikov gets back in rhythm it’ll be Morrissey-Poolman
Kulikov-Pionk

Which is good enough. Our bottom pairing could be better but it is what it is. I don’t expect us to make a deep run this year. I’m more into the fact of adding a 2c of the future and bolstering the backup internally. We have a number of solid LD prospects that will be ready next year.
Jan 10 at 7:42
#12
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Quoting: ColonelX
I think Nate Thompson brings a lot more in the locker room than a 5th round will. We should keep him here especially through this tough stretch. That Oilers 1st has to be this year, it's more valuable for Marc to be a home pick.


The Oilers are gonna lose their 2020 3rd rounder to CGY in the Neal/Lucic deal... Holland won't trade his 2020 first rounder.
Jan 10 at 7:43
#13
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Quoting: tsyls
Hah, I mean we need a 2c and a dman. I think our top 4 will be fine. Once kulikov gets back in rhythm it’ll be Morrissey-Poolman
Kulikov-Pionk

Which is good enough. Our bottom pairing could be better but it is what it is. I don’t expect us to make a deep run this year. I’m more into the fact of adding a 2c of the future and bolstering the backup internally. We have a number of solid LD prospects that will be ready next year.


That's the point. If you have Kulikov on your top 4, you're in trouble.
Jan 10 at 7:44
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Quoting: KakkoForMauriceRichardAward
Brannstrom is a better prospect than Benson


And the first in one of the strongest drafts of all time is much much better than the 2nd. Benson is Oilers best forward prospect.
Jan 10 at 7:45
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Quoting: ColonelX
Shouldn't Winnipeg be looking for a defenseman first?


Heinola , Gawnke, Samberg , Lundmark and Chrisholm .
they got prospects but they need a year as Samberg and Gawnke are close as Stanley is IMO if not closer .

Niku they might wanna keep though as he bridges the gap untill the new guys show up
Jan 10 at 7:45
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Quoting: Copenhagen
And the first in one of the strongest drafts of all time is much much better than the 2nd. Benson is Oilers best forward prospect.


I've personally heard that Yamamoto is better...
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Jan 10 at 7:46
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Quoting: Billy739
Heinola , Gawnke, Samberg , Lundmark and Chrisholm .
they got prospects but they need a year as Samberg and Gawnke are close as Stanley is IMO if not closer .

Niku they might wanna keep though as he bridges the gap untill the new guys show up


They should get a pending UFA, like Vatanen maybe
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Jan 10 at 7:46
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Quoting: Copenhagen
First off, Holland said he is not trading his 1st round pick, Secondly the Oilers are not trading home town boy Benson or their will be a revolt. If that is the market, which I dont think it is, the Oilers will NOT be involved in a Tartar trade, be will stay on the Canadians. That value is higher than Mark Stone trade and I will take Stone 10 out of 10 times over Tartar. Stone is one of the top 5 wingers in the NHL, that guy does everything right. IMO


It's funny you don't mention that Stone has a 9.5M$ (For 8 years) cap hit compared to a meager 3.8M$ (With the million retained, for 2 years), you don't think a similar guy at 40% of the price is a better asset?
Jan 10 at 7:47
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Quoting: KakkoForMauriceRichardAward
That's the point. If you have Kulikov on your top 4, you're in trouble.


Quoting: KakkoForMauriceRichardAward
That's the point. If you have Kulikov on your top 4, you're in trouble.


Honestly at the start of the year he looked really good. Then he got hurt. So I mean I’m not complaining about him getting back into stride. He could be a serviceable 2LD. Look at what we’ve had to work with and we’ve made it work. I think that I’d prioritize getting a 2c of the future over a dman to fit in the top 4, when we have a number of LD prospects that will be ready next year. Samberg will be a top 4 dman. Heinola will push for that spot too. So I’m not too concerned. I’d rather make a splash and get Domi to add to our already dynamic top 6 and then fill the hole next year with a stud in Samberg.
Jan 10 at 7:48
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Quoting: tsyls
Jets offer MTL:

Max Domi w/ 7 x 7,142,857 extension
For
Kristian Vesalainen
Sami Niku
Logan Stanley
Michael Spacek
2020 1st rd pick
2021 2nd rd pick


Saw this already
Were you the one who made?
Also no from MTL
Jan 10 at 7:48
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Quoting: KakkoForMauriceRichardAward
They should get a pending UFA, like Vatanen maybe


Nonononono especially if buff does decide to return.
Jan 10 at 7:48
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Quoting: PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood
The Oilers shouldn't trade for anyone, they should sell and get anything that they can. They are barely a playoff team and any injury to McDavid and Draisaitl and the team may not win a game in the NHL. I have no idea how they will fix this disaster


You fix it by letting your prospect become regular NHL players, thats how you fix it, you dont trade away the whole team. Diference between Oilers and other teams is we have 2 elite players, that is a start every single GM in the league will take and start with. Holland who I am not a fan of, has not even been here for 1 year yet and you think it should be blown up and start over,. lol thats a joke, I as an Oilers fan never thought they would be a playoff team this year. I thought 2 years from now would be out time.
Jan 10 at 7:49
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Quoting: MaxDomi13
Saw this already
Were you the one who made?
Also no from MTL


Yeah it was me and really? 2 potential 1sts, a really solid RD prospect, a good F prospect and two B prospects. I’m not sure why MTL wouldn’t consider this.
Jan 10 at 7:50
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Quoting: ColonelX
It's funny you don't mention that Stone has a 9.5M$ (For 8 years) cap hit compared to a meager 3.8M$ (With the million retained, for 2 years), you don't think a similar guy at 40% of the price is a better asset?


You mean for 100 games. Stone has a bad back end of his contract, but he is a way better player. If players are worth the price than GM's will pay them. Year after year consistency pays.
Jan 10 at 7:51
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KovalchukFor2RDP
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Quoting: tsyls
Yeah it was me and really? 2 potential 1sts, a really solid RD prospect, a good F prospect and two B prospects. I’m not sure why MTL wouldn’t consider this.


Who becomes 2C
Suzuki's one of the only rightys and he will not do it (or should not)
KK is NOT ready
 
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