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Oilers fans complain about forwards not being able to defend

Initial Creation Date: Jan 11, 2020
Published: Jan 11 at 11:00 am
Team: 2019-20 Edmonton Oilers
Trades
EDM
  1. Girgensons, Zemgus
BUF
  1. Brodziak, Kyle
  2. 2021 4th round pick (EDM)
  3. 2021 6th round pick (PIT)
  4. 2022 6th round pick (EDM)
Additional Details:
Brodziak=cap dump
EDM
    CGY
    1. 2020 3rd round pick (EDM)
    EDM
    1. Tierney, Chris
    OTT
    1. Currie, Josh
    2. 2021 2nd round pick (EDM)
    3. 2022 3rd round pick (EDM)
    Buyouts
    • Andrej Sekera: $2,500,000
    • Benoit Pouliot: $1,333,333
    • Eric Gryba: $300,000
    Retained Salary Transactions
    • Milan Lucic: $750,000 (13%)
    • Sam Gagner: $315,000 (10%)
    Buried
    • Markus Granlund: $225,000 ($1,300,000)
    • Sam Gagner: $1,760,000 ($2,835,000)
    • Brandon Manning: $1,175,000 ($2,250,000)
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    EDM
    EDM
    EDM
    EDM
    EDM
    2021
    EDM
    EDM
    EDM
    EDM
    EDM
    2022
    EDM
    EDM
    EDM
    EDM
    EDM
    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
    23$81,500,000$80,985,331$0$2,637,500$514,669
    Left WingCenterRight Wing
    EDM
    Neal, James
    $5,750,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 4
    EDM
    McDavid, Connor
    $12,500,000
    C
    UFA - 7
    EDM
    Kassian, Zack
    $1,950,000
    RW
    UFA - 1
    EDM
    Nugent-Hopkins, Ryan
    $6,000,000
    C, LW
    UFA - 2
    EDM
    Draisaitl, Leon
    $8,500,000
    C, LW, RW
    UFA - 6
    EDM
    Yamamoto, Kailer
    $894,166
    RW, C
    RFA - 2
    EDM
    Sheahan, Riley
    $900,000
    LW, C
    UFA - 1
    OTT
    Tierney, Chris
    $2,937,500
    C
    RFA - 1
    EDM
    Chiasson, Alex
    $2,150,000
    RW
    UFA - 2
    EDM
    Khaira, Jujhar
    $1,200,000
    C, LW
    RFA - 2
    BUF
    Girgensons, Zemgus
    $1,600,000
    C, LW
    UFA - 1
    EDM
    Haas, Gaëtan
    $925,000
    C
    UFA - 1
    EDM
    Archibald, Josh
    $1,000,000
    RW
    UFA - 1
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    EDM
    Klefbom, Oscar
    $4,167,000
    LD
    UFA - 4
    EDM
    Larsson, Adam
    $4,166,666
    RD
    UFA - 2
    EDM
    Koskinen, Mikko
    $4,500,000
    G
    NTC
    UFA - 3
    EDM
    Nurse, Darnell
    $3,200,000
    LD
    UFA - 1
    EDM
    Bear, Ethan
    $720,000
    RD
    RFA - 1
    EDM
    Smith, Mike
    $2,000,000
    G
    NTC
    UFA - 1
    EDM
    Russell, Kris
    $4,000,000
    RD
    NMC NTC
    UFA - 2
    EDM
    Benning, Matthew
    $1,900,000
    RD
    RFA - 1
    EDM
    Lagesson, William
    $741,666
    LD
    RFA - 1
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
    EDM
    Nygård, Joakim
    $925,000
    LW
    UFA - 1
    EDM
    Mantha, Ryan
    $870,000
    RD
    RFA - 1

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    Jan 11 at 11:15
    #1
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    Lol, I'm sure you meant to put something in there but why would Edmonton give the flames a 3rd for free?
    Jan 11 at 11:16
    #2
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    Let's Go Rangers!
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    Quoting: CPH
    Lol, I'm sure you meant to put something in there but why would Edmonton give the flames a 3rd for free?


    James Neal trade
    Jan 11 at 11:34
    #3
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    Quoting: KakkoForMauriceRichardAward
    James Neal trade


    That makes sense I forgot about that
    Jan 11 at 11:37
    #4
    Burgers and Hockey
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    Brodziak is on LTIR, probably out for the rest of his career. Moving him accomplishes nothing for either team...
    Jan 11 at 12:00
    #5
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    Quoting: BurgerBoss
    Brodziak is on LTIR, probably out for the rest of his career. Moving him accomplishes nothing for either team...


    Brodziak actually isn't on LTIR, just IR currently but could be moved to LTIR if Holland feels like he needs extra cap. So you are correct moving him does nothing and Manning is the cap dump Oilers should move if more cap is required.
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    Jan 11 at 1:17
    #6
    Hey Beter
    Joined: Oct 2017
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    Who's complaining about the Oilers forwards not being defensively responsible? The issue is that the bottom six is pretty much only good at playing in their own end or on the PK; there's a substantial need for production from the 3rd line. At least that's been well documented.
    Jan 11 at 1:34
    #7
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    Quoting: BeterChiarelli
    Who's complaining about the Oilers forwards not being defensively responsible? The issue is that the bottom six is pretty much only good at playing in their own end or on the PK; there's a substantial need for production from the 3rd line. At least that's been well documented.


    That's how it was to start the year but recently bottom 6 production has been middle of the pack which should be good enough when you have McDavid and Draisaitl running the top 6. I mainly think Oilers need a better faceoff guy to replace Haas in the dot so the 4th line isn't always chasing the puck. Glendening for Khaira?
    Jan 11 at 2:27
    #8
    Hey Beter
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    Quoting: Bluetomorrow83
    That's how it was to start the year but recently bottom 6 production has been middle of the pack which should be good enough when you have McDavid and Draisaitl running the top 6. I mainly think Oilers need a better faceoff guy to replace Haas in the dot so the 4th line isn't always chasing the puck. Glendening for Khaira?


    I don't agree with the philosophy surrounding our entire bottom six as a whole. We have two defensive checking lines: if the Oilers want to seriously capitalize on a meek pacific division, then middle-of-the-road production behind the top six isn't exactly good enough. It might suffice, but the road ahead becomes easier of they opt to reinforce the third line.

    I like a 4th line of Nygard-Sheahan-Haas and am open to having Archibald as the 13th forward. Names like Glendening aren't moving the needle in a third line scoring role, no matter how defensively brilliant he is. Names like Benson, Bonino, Fast, Pageau, etc are the guys that Edmonton should be looking at. The defensive assignments that will be forced into big minutes in the playoffs against McDavid or a Draisaitl-Nuge line will open up a lot more opportunities for those 30+ point players and would give the Oilers a phenomenal edge in any game against any team.
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    Jan 11 at 3:29
    #9
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    Quoting: BeterChiarelli
    I don't agree with the philosophy surrounding our entire bottom six as a whole. We have two defensive checking lines: if the Oilers want to seriously capitalize on a meek pacific division, then middle-of-the-road production behind the top six isn't exactly good enough. It might suffice, but the road ahead becomes easier of they opt to reinforce the third line.

    I like a 4th line of Nygard-Sheahan-Haas and am open to having Archibald as the 13th forward. Names like Glendening aren't moving the needle in a third line scoring role, no matter how defensively brilliant he is. Names like Benson, Bonino, Fast, Pageau, etc are the guys that Edmonton should be looking at. The defensive assignments that will be forced into big minutes in the playoffs against McDavid or a Draisaitl-Nuge line will open up a lot more opportunities for those 30+ point players and would give the Oilers a phenomenal edge in any game against any team.


    I would push for Tierney over any of the guys you listed (Pageau has been amazing but likely too expensive) Maybe JP+Pick gets you Tierney who is still under team control
    Jan 11 at 3:46
    #10
    Hey Beter
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    Quoting: Bluetomorrow83
    I would push for Tierney over any of the guys you listed (Pageau has been amazing but likely too expensive) Maybe JP+Pick gets you Tierney who is still under team control


    Tierney is a name. Probably doesn't cost more than Jones and a 2nd assuming Ottawa's eating salary.
     
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