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Ive heard Vegas wanted a Dman so here is a kind little offer

Created by: SammyT_51
Initial Creation Date: Jan 11, 2020
Published: Jan 11 at 4:09 pm
Team: 2019-20 Toronto Maple Leafs
Team Explanation
LOOOL LETS GO!
Trades
TOR
  1. Reaves, Ryan
  2. McNabb, Brayden
  3. 2020 3rd round pick (VGK)
VGK
  1. Ceci, Cody
  2. Johnsson, Andreas
TOR
  1. Dell, Aaron ($400,000 retained)
  2. Dahlén, Jonathan
SJS
  1. Timashov, Dmytro
  2. Bracco, Jeremy
  3. Kaskisuo, Kasimir
Buyouts
  • Mikhail Grabovski: $0
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Phil Kessel: $1,200,000 (15%)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
TOR
CBJ
VGK
TOR
VGK
TOR
CAR
COL
EDM
SJS
STL
WPG
2021
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
2022
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$81,004,366$0$265,000$495,634

Roster

Left WingCenterRight Wing
TOR
Hyman, Zach
$2,250,000
LW
NTC
UFA - 2
TOR
Matthews, Auston
$11,634,000
C
UFA - 5
TOR
Marner, Mitchell
$10,893,000
RW
UFA - 6
TOR
Moore, Trevor
$775,000
RW, LW
RFA - 2
TOR
Tavares, John
$11,000,000
C
NMC
UFA - 6
TOR
Nylander, William
$6,962,366
RW, C
UFA - 5
TOR
Engvall, Pierre
$925,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
TOR
Kerfoot, Alexander
$3,500,000
C, LW
UFA - 4
TOR
Kapanen, Kasperi
$3,200,000
RW
RFA - 3
TOR
Spezza, Jason
$700,000
C, RW
NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Brooks, Adam
$759,167
C
RFA - 1
VGK
Reaves, Ryan
$2,775,000
RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
TOR
Muzzin, Jake
$4,000,000
LD
UFA - 1
TOR
Holl, Justin
$675,000
RD
UFA - 1
TOR
Andersen, Frederik
$5,000,000
G
NTC
UFA - 2
TOR
Rielly, Morgan
$5,000,000
LD
UFA - 3
TOR
Dermott, Travis
$863,333
LD
RFA - 1
SJS
Dell, Aaron
$1,500,000
G
UFA - 1
VGK
McNabb, Brayden
$2,500,000
LD
UFA - 3
TOR
Barrie, Tyson
$2,750,000
RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
TOR
Marchment, Mason
$767,500
LW
RFA - 1
TOR
Horton, Nathan
$5,300,000
RW
NMC NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Gauthier, Frédérik
$675,000
C
RFA - 1
TOR
Clarkson, David
$5,250,000
RW
NMC NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Marincin, Martin
$700,000
LD
UFA - 1
TOR
Mikheyev, Ilya
$925,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1

Special Teams

Power Play 1
Nylander, W.
Tavares, J.
Matthews, A.
Barrie, T.
Marner, M.
Power Play 2
Kapanen, K.
Spezza, J.
Moore, T.
Rielly, M.
Kerfoot, A.
Penalty Kill 1
Engvall, P.
Hyman, Z.
Muzzin, J.
Holl, J.
Penalty Kill 2
Brooks, A.
Kapanen, K.
McNabb, B.
Dermott, T.

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Jan 11 at 4:23
#1
Marner Stan Account
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This is a solid trade for TOR. McNabb is a solid defensive defenseman. Perfect for a guy like Barrie.
Jan 11 at 4:32
#2
Karsenbill
Joined: Jun 2019
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That’s a huge no from sjs.
Jan 11 at 4:34
#3
Thread Starter
GM Hockeysaurus Rex
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Quoting: Bill_Karsen
That’s a huge no from sjs.


Why? Is Dell vezina winner all of a sudden? LOL
Jan 11 at 4:40
#4
Karsenbill
Joined: Jun 2019
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Edited Jan 11 at 8:23
Quoting: SammyT_51
Why? Is Dell vezina winner all of a sudden? LOL

He’s been the Sharks best player for about three weeks and hes their best chances at getting back into this season. LOL (you and your consistently vapid responses will now ignore list). The crap prospects you send to SJ are not more than the typically overvalued trash from TO. See ya.
Jan 11 at 4:43
#5
Wqrrior
Joined: Feb 2019
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Quoting: Bill_Karsen
That’s a huge no from sjs.


The sharks would be stupid not to accept that.
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Jan 11 at 5:15
#6
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Quoting: Bill_Karsen
That’s a huge no from sjs.


SJS is giving up a garbage back up goalie and a nothing prospect. It would be stupid for them not to accept that.
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Jan 11 at 5:18
#7
Karsenbill
Joined: Jun 2019
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Quoting: Kotkaniemi15
SJS is giving up a garbage back up goalie and a nothing prospect. It would be stupid for them not to accept that.


Hardly garbage. You clearly haven’t looked at his stats this season, save% and GAA are above your 10million dollar starters LOL. He is San Joses first goalie in two years to get above .900, he is spearheading the sharks turnaround. Dahlen is a pretty decent prospect actually
Jan 11 at 6:08
#8
Vegas Arm GM
Joined: Aug 2019
Posts: 659
Likes: 110
Vegas Says no
We don’t want Forwards and a rental dman when McNabb is a on a great contract and give up the hear and soul of this team in Reaves
Jan 11 at 6:27
#9
Formerly klondikebar
Joined: Mar 2019
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Quoting: Bill_Karsen
Hardly garbage. You clearly haven’t looked at his stats this season, save% and GAA are above your 10million dollar starters LOL. He is San Joses first goalie in two years to get above .900, he is spearheading the sharks turnaround. Dahlen is a pretty decent prospect actually


I know having a .907 save percentage might feel like Vezina level numbers over there in San Jose, but he’s not that good. Georgiev or a UFA goalie would be a better option, therefore, the Sharks would b stupid not to accept. Bracco has potential and Tima is already an NHL player. Kaski is a 3rd stringer but honestly might b better than Jones (sarcasm, kind of)
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Jan 11 at 7:33
#10
Wqrrior
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Quoting: AndrewLadd
I know having a .907 save percentage might feel like Vezina level numbers over there in San Jose, but he’s not that good. Georgiev or a UFA goalie would be a better option, therefore, the Sharks would b stupid not to accept. Bracco has potential and Tima is already an NHL player. Kaski is a 3rd stringer but honestly might b better than Jones (sarcasm, kind of)


well put.
Dahlen and Bracco are pretty much equivalent swaps.

That means Dell for Timashov and a placeholder goalie. The sharks towel has been thrown. Dell is a UFA. UFA goalies hardly get anything... look at Kinkaid last year. Dell might be the only good thing on the sharks right now, but that doesn't mean he is suddenly worth McDavid and Draisaitl combined.
Declining a trade that fills the sharks with prospects, something they don't have hardly any of, is a very unwise move. If the public knew a trade like this was rejected, Vancouver would be quick to teach San Jose how to riot.
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Jan 11 at 7:37
#11
Leafs fan...sorry
Joined: Jul 2019
Posts: 206
Likes: 71
Quoting: Bill_Karsen
He’s been the Sharks best player for about three weeks and hes their best chances at getting back into this season. LOL (you and your consistently vapid responses will now ignore list). The crap D prospects you send to SJ are not more than the typically overvalued trash from TO. See ya.


the fact that you don't know what position those guys play tells me that you're not really in a position to discern their value
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Jan 11 at 8:19
#12
Karsenbill
Joined: Jun 2019
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Quoting: KileDoobis
the fact that you don't know what position those guys play tells me that you're not really in a position to discern their value

Who said i didn’t know there position? You just pull that one out of your arse ?
Jan 11 at 8:22
#13
Joined: Aug 2017
Posts: 1,269
Likes: 320
You suck.
Ceci sucks.
Vegas hangs up.....dial tone ———————————
Stop trying to unload Ceci.
Ottawa had him and unloaded him because they knew what they had.
Nobody wants him.
Goodnight.
Jan 11 at 8:25
#14
Leafs fan...sorry
Joined: Jul 2019
Posts: 206
Likes: 71
Quoting: Bill_Karsen
Who said i didn’t know there position? You just pull that one out of your arse ?


"crap D prospects the leafs send to SJ"

the players the leafs send to SJ are:
Jeremy Bracco, RW
Dmytro Timashov, LW
Kasimir Kaskisuo, G
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Jan 11 at 8:27
#15
Leafs fan...sorry
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Quoting: KileDoobis
"crap D prospects the leafs send to SJ"

the players the leafs send to SJ are:
Jeremy Bracco, RW
Dmytro Timashov, LW
Kasimir Kaskisuo, G




"edited moments ago" lmaooooooooo
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Jan 11 at 9:24
#16
Wqrrior
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Quoting: Bill_Karsen
Who said i didn’t know there position? You just pull that one out of your arse ?


Just look at last year's Kinkaid. Lot of devils fans were in the same boat last year saying he was playing better than the rest, however they still only got a 5th for him. Because of Dell's contract AAV and the fact that there's not a huge market for goaltenders, the most he gets is a fourth. I understand that he might be playing good, but goalies don't get the value that people expect. Your best bet for your franchise is to move dell for whatever the top offer is and move on. (This trade is a pretty darn good rebuild starter too... I cannot understand how you could possibly think that's not enough)
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Jan 11 at 10:12
#17
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Quoting: Bill_Karsen
He’s been the Sharks best player for about three weeks and hes their best chances at getting back into this season. LOL (you and your consistently vapid responses will now ignore list). The crap prospects you send to SJ are not more than the typically overvalued trash from TO. See ya.


Dell is a backup and Dahlen is playing in a tier below the SHL. If San Jose didn't accept they'd be stupid.
Jan 11 at 10:57
#18
Karsenbill
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Quoting: Chopper02
Dell is a backup and Dahlen is playing in a tier below the SHL. If San Jose didn't accept they'd be stupid.

I wish people would fact check below posting ignorant comments. Dell has been the sharks starter since DeBoer was fired. Please, check your facts, so you don’t spread misinformation as ppl on here will repeat it over and over again for months without hesitating
Jan 11 at 11:51
#19
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Why would the leafs do this? You want to package AJ for hopefully a top4 dman if you move him. Not a bottom pair dman and a forth liner.
Jan 12 at 8:05
#20
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Quoting: Bill_Karsen
I wish people would fact check below posting ignorant comments. Dell has been the sharks starter since DeBoer was fired. Please, check your facts, so you don’t spread misinformation as ppl on here will repeat it over and over again for months without hesitating


The fact is Dell has been a career backup for a reason and will always be a backup goaltender. He's been solid, but just because he's been solid and playing better than Jones (which isn't hard) doesn't make him an actual regular starting goaltender in the league. Please stop posting "ignorant" stuff on here before you do your own fact checking.
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Jan 13 at 2:09
#21
Karsenbill
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Quoting: Chopper02
The fact is Dell has been a career backup for a reason and will always be a backup goaltender. He's been solid, but just because he's been solid and playing better than Jones (which isn't hard) doesn't make him an actual regular starting goaltender in the league. Please stop posting "ignorant" stuff on here before you do your own fact checking.


His numbers the last two weeks are top 10 in the league, you hypocrite
Jan 13 at 7:25
#22
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Quoting: Bill_Karsen
His numbers the last two weeks are top 10 in the league, you hypocrite


So two weeks makes him a legitimate starter in the league? Try again.
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Jan 13 at 7:27
#23
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Quoting: Wqrrior
Just look at last year's Kinkaid. Lot of devils fans were in the same boat last year saying he was playing better than the rest, however they still only got a 5th for him. Because of Dell's contract AAV and the fact that there's not a huge market for goaltenders, the most he gets is a fourth. I understand that he might be playing good, but goalies don't get the value that people expect. Your best bet for your franchise is to move dell for whatever the top offer is and move on. (This trade is a pretty darn good rebuild starter too... I cannot understand how you could possibly think that's not enough)


He also think Dell is a legitimate full time starter in the NHL because of numbers he's put up in two weeks. He has no clue what he is talking about.
Jan 13 at 2:11
#24
Wqrrior
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Quoting: Bill_Karsen
His numbers the last two weeks are top 10 in the league, you hypocrite


you go throwing around the hypocrite insult, ill counter that with you being brainwashed.

He could be the league's best goalie for all I care and he still wouldn't get that great of a return. Look at Kuemper on LA. He was in a position similar to that of Dell - starting to steal quick's minutes and putting up some very nice numbers. He was on a better and longer contract than Dell. Yet still, all LA got for him was a struggling Tobias Rieder and a late round pick. Kuemper is and was a far better goalie than Dell.

As Stephen Tyler says, Dream on!
 
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