Quoting: Gofnut999
Calm your tits. I did not say Bjork was better then Kase. Yes Kase is an upgrade over Bjork. No question.
Now as far as on pace goes. Bjork has 1 more goal in 1 less game. Kase 16 mins per game and 1:50pp time. Bjork 12 and 0. Think maybe Kase should have more goals than Bjork at this point but nope.
Bjork is on a contender and plays with Krejci. Meanwhile, Kase is on a bottom-feeder alongside Steel, a 21 year old kid just learning the ropes. Not quite fair. If you watched Kase you'd see that he drives the play on his line. I won't pretend to have seen Bjork play recent, but I think it's safe to say that Krejci is the play-driver on that line. I have no doubt that Kase would outperform Bjork if given the opportunity to in the same scenario. Expecting Kase not to improve his production on a beast contender like BOS is a little too conservative for me, and I'm probably one of the most conservative fans going.
Quoting: Gofnut999
Bjork has been very impressive over the last few weeks and is on the verge of breaking out. Would not be surprised to see him put up a dozen goals the rest of the way.
Management loves him.
What i said was, as a buying team the B’s are trying to add to the roster without giving up players off the main. Especially a cheap one considering their lack of cap space. It’s not the type of move they are looking for.
What are you talking about? You're not moving out a roster player for futures. It's an upgrade. So you really think that BOS wouldn't consider upgrading Bjork to a better player? Kase is only making $2.6m for the next 2 seasons. That's a sweetheart deal for a player proven 20 goal scorer. I have no doubt that management love Bjork, but Kase is a significant upgrade, is totally worth the increased cost in salary and cap, and would help you in your pursuit for a cup. Bjork + 1st (likely 28-31st OA) for Kase? I have no doubt that BOS snaps our hand off if offered.
Quoting: Gofnut999
Highly unlikely Backes is moved. He can block to 22 teams and nobody wants him. Only players i see being moved off the main to make space would be Heinen or Moore. Bjork is a cheaper version than Heinen. Makes Heinen expendable. And Bjork had passed him on the depth chart.
That's fair. For me, Bjork, Heinen, it doesn't really matter. Both are never going to reach the level Kase is at. It's a downgrade and I don't think the 1st covers the difference, not for me anyway.
Quoting: Gofnut999
The teams had talked about Kase but it was rumored to be Axel Anderson and a pick. Never gained traction. Honestly the Ducks would rather have the 1st/Anderson/Backes that I countered with than the original offer and B’s would rather do that as well. Ducks have a lot of good young forwards. Adding a puck moving RD prospect would be more beneficial to Ducks. And it would be more beneficial to B’s who are playing for the now to move a prospect while keeping Bjork on the main. That is what i was implying.
Bad logic imo. Yes, keeping Bjork around would be ideal, but I disagree that BOS turns down an opportunity to significantly upgrade Bjork ahead of a cup run just because they want to keep as many players around as possible. Bjork can be replaced by Heinen (I know he's more expensive) and you have plenty of 13th forwards to call upon should you need to. Moreover, Bjork's upside isn't that great, so you can't even argue "potential".
Quoting: Gofnut999
They have talked to NJ about Palmieri. Bjork was one of the asks. LA wants him for Toffoli. Seems like every team they talk to Bjork is the player wanted in return. It may end up that they have to give up Bjork to get a deal done. They’d prefer not to. But it will be for someone like Palmieri or Kreider.
Any legitimate sources to back that up? Elliot Friedman has made a bunch of speculations, but that doesn't really mean anything. No way Bjork gets Toffoli with a significant add. Same goes for Palms. Seriously, Bjork doesn't sniff any of the players you're talking about and doesn't even have the upside to make up for his lack a current ability.