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Jan. 12, 2020 at 6:03 p.m.
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youre dreaming with that Drouin trade
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Jan. 12, 2020 at 6:05 p.m.
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Big big big no to that CBJ trade
Jan. 12, 2020 at 6:06 p.m.
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Maybe but droning would be a nice piece for Colorado to add. Depends if they want to go for it or not I guess
Jan. 12, 2020 at 6:30 p.m.
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That Columbus trade is brutal for the Habs.
Jan. 12, 2020 at 6:40 p.m.
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Quoting: coga16
youre dreaming with that Drouin trade


Of course he dream this is really bad evaluation. Drouin a 50+ point for a suspect and a late first round is never happening. Stop overestimate your damn pick and prospect. Timmins might never play in nhl and your first round pick will probably be a 20-30 overall picks. You might not like drouin but he still is a good players and have lot more value then those two assets. Be objective for once.
Jan. 12, 2020 at 6:50 p.m.
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Quoting: Sebybbq17
Of course he dream this is really bad evaluation. Drouin a 50+ point for a suspect and a late first round is never happening. Stop overestimate your damn pick and prospect. Timmins might never play in nhl and your first round pick will probably be a 20-30 overall picks. You might not like drouin but he still is a good players and have lot more value then those two assets. Be objective for once.


Stop overestimating every Habs player and prospects, you go on a soap box every time.
Avs do not want Drouin, so hes dreaming that they would give up Timmins who they didn't want to include in a Hall deal. In what world do you think Sakic would include Timmins for a lesser player. If you cant comprehend that then there is no hope for you

Its not me who is over estimating prospects and picks, its just actual reality
You want to see what a 50 point player with 3 years of term on their contract is worth...JT Miller, a 1st and a 3rd round draft pick, not a 1st and one of then Avs top prospects. Live in the world of actual trade comps
Jan. 12, 2020 at 7:02 p.m.
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Maybe but droning would be a nice piece for Colorado to add. Depends if they want to go for it or not I guess


just unrealistic for a 2nd line Winger, and thats just what Drouin is. If avs are moving 1st and Timmins they are getting a better winger than him.
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Jan. 12, 2020 at 7:09 p.m.
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Calgary isnt looking for a goalie this year, especially one thats overrated, if we need one Holtby, Lehner and Crow might all hit UFA this year and arent going to cost 10.5M until age 40
Jan. 12, 2020 at 7:16 p.m.
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Quoting: coga16
Stop overestimating every Habs player and prospects, you go on a soap box every time.
Avs do not want Drouin, so hes dreaming that they would give up Timmins who they didn't want to include in a Hall deal. In what world do you think Sakic would include Timmins for a lesser player. If you cant comprehend that then there is no hope for you

Its not me who is over estimating prospects and picks, its just actual reality


There nonreality in saying that timmins is just a good prospect and nothing more than that. The kid can still be a total bust and never have succes in Nhl that whybthey are prospect. Drouin is a established 50 point winger that a facts. Timmins is a real good ahl defenseman thats another fact. If he where that good he would be playing in nhl. And i will use simple word since it’s always seem complicated for you to understand simple thing. Hall was a unrestricted free agent at the end of the season. So Colorado would have gave up assets just for this year if Hall have decided to test the market. Drouin is sign for 4 more years at a nice average. The fact that Hall is a better player have nothing to do with the situation here because both players are in complete different situation. You can’t even make the difference between those 2. The trade proposal here was for drouin and 4 years at 5,5 millions. The blues traded 2 first round pick and lehtera for 3 years of brayden scheen. That a comparable. A comparable is a trade or a signature that happen before. That what team use the evaluate players or what they are looking for when they trade players.
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Jan. 12, 2020 at 7:45 p.m.
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Quoting: Sebybbq17
There nonreality in saying that timmins is just a good prospect and nothing more than that. The kid can still be a total bust and never have succes in Nhl that whybthey are prospect. Drouin is a established 50 point winger that a facts. Timmins is a real good ahl defenseman thats another fact. If he where that good he would be playing in nhl. And i will use simple word since it’s always seem complicated for you to understand simple thing. Hall was a unrestricted free agent at the end of the season. So Colorado would have gave up assets just for this year if Hall have decided to test the market. Drouin is sign for 4 more years at a nice average. The fact that Hall is a better player have nothing to do with the situation here because both players are in complete different situation. You can’t even make the difference between those 2. The trade proposal here was for drouin and 4 years at 5,5 millions. The blues traded 2 first round pick and lehtera for 3 years of brayden scheen. That a comparable. A comparable is a trade or a signature that happen before. That what team use the evaluate players or what they are looking for when they trade players.


I added to my post saying the comp for Drouin ins JT Miller...50 point guys, 2nd line wingers signed for 3 more years. He was a 1st and a 3rd. Thats the world you live In for value, dont add extra value to him bc you think he could be more (he hasn't shown he can be in his NHL career beyond 53 points) and there is no added value in him and Mack being old line mates

He is what he is, and that is similar to JT Miller...and he didnt fetch a 1st and a top prospect either. Brayden scheen is not a comparable hes a legit C and a cap dump was involved int he trade. Drouin is a winger, he is not a C. A 2nd line Winger who has flashes of offence ability but a complete train wreck defensively
Jan. 12, 2020 at 8:11 p.m.
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Quoting: coga16
I added to my post saying the comp for Drouin ins JT Miller...50 point guys, 2nd line wingers signed for 3 more years. He was a 1st and a 3rd. Thats the world you live In for value, dont add extra value to him bc you think he could be more (he hasn't shown he can be in his NHL career beyond 53 points) and there is no added value in him and Mack being old line mates

He is what he is, and that is similar to JT Miller...and he didnt fetch a 1st and a top prospect either. Brayden scheen is not a comparable hes a legit C and a cap dump was involved int he trade. Drouin is a winger, he is not a C. A 2nd line Winger who has flashes of offence ability but a complete train wreck defensively


Ahahah added after reading my comment to justify how off you where in the first place. Jt miller is a 40-50 point players who reach 50 point only once. Drouin( 2 year younger have already done it twice and was on pace for breaking that mark again this year. Brayden schenn was traded at 25 and wasn’t trade because of cap issues. Jt miller was moved to make room for brayden point they got the max they could get for him in that sense. So again your are wrong like always. Drouin is 24 and have plenty of value. You can’t even do a proper analysis. Damn i feel sorry for you. Coming from a guys who cannot make the difference from a ufa and a players with term I feel like i am wasting energie since you are probably a little kids who still lets is mom choose is clothing in the morning. Its always the same thing when you comment post. Players hatred, every players that doesn’t play in colorado aren’t good and shouldn’t play in nhl. But a guy like timmins who haven’t done anything is better then more then half of defenseman playing in nhl. Every single team would trade for jonathan drouin if the price was a prospect and a 1 round pick. Even joe sakic would do that trade since he isnt a total troll
Jan. 12, 2020 at 8:12 p.m.
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Quoting: coga16
I added to my post saying the comp for Drouin ins JT Miller...50 point guys, 2nd line wingers signed for 3 more years. He was a 1st and a 3rd. Thats the world you live In for value, dont add extra value to him bc you think he could be more (he hasn't shown he can be in his NHL career beyond 53 points) and there is no added value in him and Mack being old line mates

He is what he is, and that is similar to JT Miller...and he didnt fetch a 1st and a top prospect either. Brayden scheen is not a comparable hes a legit C and a cap dump was involved int he trade. Drouin is a winger, he is not a C. A 2nd line Winger who has flashes of offence ability but a complete train wreck defensively[/quote


Fair statement drouin is closer to miller only difference being he is younger with upside and not just a little quite a bit more upside considering his best years of his career are going to be the next three which carries value as well as being old junior line mates say what you will GMS value past chemistry and history. Either way the trade is not out of the realm of possibility especially considering avs window for contending. The price is definitely a premium for drouin that they may or may not what to pay however value is not far off and is good basis for conversation
Jan. 12, 2020 at 8:20 p.m.
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Ahahah added after reading my comment to justify how off you where in the first place. Jt miller is a 40-50 point players who reach 50 point only once. Drouin( 2 year younger have already done it twice and was on pace for breaking that mark again this year. Brayden schenn was traded at 25 and wasn’t trade because of cap issues. Jt miller was moved to make room for brayden point they got the max they could get for him in that sense. So again your are wrong like always. Drouin is 24 and have plenty of value. You can’t even do a proper analysis. Damn i feel sorry for you. Coming from a guys who cannot make the difference from a ufa and a players with term I feel like i am wasting energie since you are probably a little kids who still lets is mom choose is clothing in the morning. Its always the same thing when you comment post. Players hatred, every players that doesn’t play in colorado aren’t good and shouldn’t play in nhl. But a guy like timmins who haven’t done anything is better then more then half of defenseman playing in nhl. Every single team would trade for jonathan drouin if the price was a prospect and a 1 round pick. Even joe sakic would do that trade since he isnt a total troll


Adding to it to show there is multiple ways to show you how you are over valuing Drouin, thats why
Nah man, bc you can get 50 point wingers in a variety of ways that does not include a 1st and a top prospect.

Drouin hasnt shown he more than that a 2nd line winger who can put up 50 points, thats it. You want to believe he is a super star, but hes not. Guys like him are very easy to obtain
Jan. 12, 2020 at 8:21 p.m.
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Calgary isnt looking for a goalie this year, especially one thats overrated, if we need one Holtby, Lehner and Crow might all hit UFA this year and arent going to cost 10.5M until age

Calgary may want to go with one of those goalies Holtby! But he will e taking a discount to stay with capitals. They other two are same caliber as price. So you will not solve Calgary s goalies issue with them. Price will win them a cup or two easily with that team in front of him. See Roy
Brodear, Hasek, Belfour , Rinne, lundquist. Goalies best seasons from30 - 36. Price best years are next four so if your a gm do you say make the trade win the cup or let’s just keep hoping for miracles.
Jan. 12, 2020 at 8:23 p.m.
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Its to my original point, a 1st and timmins involved in a trade goes to a different level of player, not Drouin. Hes not a special player, hes a good but not great one and you can get those 2nd line wingers so many different ways

You can even take the gamble and go after guys like Burakovsky for example. He is on a 50 point+ pace. Cost them a 2nd and a 3rd., RFA with mutliple years of team control left. Just an example of if you have good pro scouting you can find that level of player for discounts

Drouin isnt worth a 1st and Timmins, you arent getting both a top prospect and a 1st round pick for him.
Jan. 12, 2020 at 8:23 p.m.
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What goalie issues does Calgary have exactly? As for Prices best years saying they will be in the future is a pretty hot take, especially considering hes dropped off a lot since his insane 2015 season
Jan. 12, 2020 at 8:27 p.m.
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That Columbus trade is brutal for the Habs.


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That Columbus trade is brutal for the Habs.



I agree we are trading the better players in this deal for sure. Armia and danault are far better possession and defensive players. But I’m trading for younger with more offense to mesh with the younger version of habs. Columbus would do this trade all day every day in a heartbeat
Jan. 12, 2020 at 8:30 p.m.
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What goalie issues does Calgary have exactly? As for Prices best years saying they will be in the future is a pretty hot take, especially considering hes dropped off a lot since his insane 2015 season



Do the research check the best years of goalies from the past. It isn’t a coincidence it’s already been proven over the years it’s when their mind and mental game becomes its best. Sorry man the past don’t lie
Jan. 12, 2020 at 8:32 p.m.
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Adding to it to show there is multiple ways to show you how you are over valuing Drouin, thats why
Nah man, bc you can get 50 point wingers in a variety of ways that does not include a 1st and a top prospect.

Drouin hasnt shown he more than that a 2nd line winger who can put up 50 points, thats it. You want to believe he is a super star, but hes not. Guys like him are very easy to obtain


What are you saying ??
Jan. 12, 2020 at 8:33 p.m.
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What goalie issues does Calgary have exactly? As for Prices best years saying they will be in the future is a pretty hot take, especially considering hes dropped off a lot since his insane 2015 season



Calgary will not win a cup with either current goalie But if the didn’t want to to the trade which also bolsters their bottom six for a tough cup run then they should target Craig Anderson if they want a cheaper option before either Chicago goalie
Jan. 12, 2020 at 8:45 p.m.
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What are you saying ??


You said Every single team would trade for jonathan drouin if the price was a prospect and a 1 round pick. Even joe sakic would do that trade since he isnt a total troll

My response no they wouldn’t
Jan. 12, 2020 at 8:46 p.m.
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Calgary will not win a cup with either current goalie But if the didn’t want to to the trade which also bolsters their bottom six for a tough cup run then they should target Craig Anderson if they want a cheaper option before either Chicago goalie


Im confused here, literally both of Calgary's goalies are playing better than Price this year let alone Craig Anderson and yet the answer rhat the team that is is currently leading the division is to not trust their succeeding goalies and trade for a different one.
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Jan. 12, 2020 at 8:47 p.m.
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You said Every single team would trade for jonathan drouin if the price was a prospect and a 1 round pick. Even joe sakic would do that trade since he isnt a total troll

My response no they wouldn’t


What ? I can’t understand what you are saying.
Jan. 12, 2020 at 8:56 p.m.
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Im confused here, literally both of Calgary's goalies are playing better than Price this year let alone Craig Anderson and yet the answer rhat the team that is is currently leading the division is to not trust their succeeding goalies and trade for a different one.


Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Im confused here, literally both of Calgary's goalies are playing better than Price this year let alone Craig Anderson and yet the answer rhat the team that is is currently leading the division is to not trust their succeeding goalies and trade for a different one.




They are doing better because of the team in front of them only. And this is the point they will not win a cup with either goalie. If they want to win a cup they will need price. Colorado never would have won a cup either unless the traded for Roy. The team was doing find like Calgary is without him but they didn’t Roy to secure a cup. You can win regular season games with any goalie 7 and series from round 1 to hoisting the cup takes a special one that’s all. Hope that makes it easier to understand. Plus please look at rest of the pieces in the trade maybe that doesn’t matter to me this trade is a move to take a run at the cup if you are Calgary
Jan. 12, 2020 at 11:33 p.m.
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