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Price is not getting traded

Created by: Zetna
Initial Creation Date: Jan 13, 2020
Published: Jan 13 at 3:25 pm
Team: 2019-20 Montreal Canadiens
Team Explanation
No one will take the cap hit, unless they retain 50% minimum. He has been decent but not nearly up to his 10.5M cap hit. Unless it was 50% retained on Price for like a second round pick and like a C level prospect, Price is staying in Quebec.
Buyouts
  • Steve Mason: $1,366,667
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Marco Scandella: $2,000,000 (50%)
  • Ilya Kovalchuk: $350,000 (50%)
Buried
  • Karl Alzner: $3,550,000 ($4,625,000)
  • Keith Kinkaid: $675,000 ($1,750,000)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
MTL
MTL
CHI
MTL
MTL
ANA
WPG
MTL
FLA
MTL
CHI
2021
MTL
MTL
MTL
CHI
MTL
MTL
OTT
MTL
2022
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
27$81,500,000$80,978,808$0$3,977,500$521,192
Left WingCenterRight Wing
MTL
Drouin, Jonathan
$5,500,000
LW
UFA - 4
MTL
Domi, Max
$3,150,000
C, LW
RFA - 1
MTL
Gallagher, Brendan
$3,750,000
RW
UFA - 2
MTL
Tatar, Tomas
$4,800,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
MTL
Danault, Phillip
$3,083,333
C
UFA - 2
MTL
Armia, Joel
$2,600,000
RW
UFA - 2
MTL
Byron, Paul
$3,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 4
MTL
Weal, Jordan
$1,400,000
C, RW, LW
UFA - 2
MTL
Weise, Dale
$2,350,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
MTL
Lehkonen, Artturi
$2,400,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
MTL
Thompson, Nate
$1,000,000
C
UFA - 1
MTL
Peca, Matthew
$1,300,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
MTL
Cousins, Nick
$1,000,000
C, LW, RW
RFA - 1
MTL
Kovalchuk, Ilya
$350,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
MTL
Kotkaniemi, Jesperi
$925,000
C, LW
RFA - 2
MTL
Poehling, Ryan
$925,000
C, LW
RFA - 2
MTL
Suzuki, Nick
$863,333
C, RW
RFA - 3
MTL
Teasdale, Joël
$763,333
C
RFA - 3
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
MTL
Scandella, Marco
$2,000,000
LD
UFA - 1
MTL
Weber, Shea
$7,857,143
RD
UFA - 7
MTL
Price, Carey
$10,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 7
MTL
Chiarot, Ben
$3,500,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 3
MTL
Petry, Jeff
$5,500,000
RD
NMC NTC
UFA - 2
MTL
Lindgren, Charlie
$750,000
G
UFA - 2
MTL
Kulak, Brett
$1,850,000
LD
UFA - 3
MTL
Fleury, Cale
$771,666
RD
RFA - 2
MTL
Mete, Victor
$748,333
LD
RFA - 1

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Jan 13 at 3:27
#1
Joined: Jan 2019
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Btw, NHLTradeRumors is not a reliable source at all. My left nut is more reliable.
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Jan 13 at 3:27
#2
Joined: Jul 2019
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*Seattle enters the chat*
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Jan 13 at 3:32
#3
mhockey91
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Quoting: Howyoudrouinnn
*Seattle enters the chat*


That’s still a ways out
Jan 13 at 3:32
#4
mhockey91
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I agree 100% with this post
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Jan 13 at 3:35
#5
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Quoting: mhockey91
That’s still a ways out


They start playing in the 2021-2022 season.

Which means at the end of next season it'll get interesting.
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Jan 13 at 3:37
#6
Caps fan idk why
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Rabble rabble rabble how dare you he won the Vezina in 2015!!! Rabble rabble rabble. Haha
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Jan 13 at 3:42
#7
Joined: Jan 2019
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Trading Carey Price to trigger the entire hockey fanbase, particularly the Avs' ( @coga16 ), has been a daily routine here in AGM.
It has gotten to the point even non-Habs are making these trades. lmao smh
Jan 13 at 3:45
#8
Hurricane Waddell
Joined: May 2018
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Wondering how many people actually realize just how bad that contract really is. It’s not just the AAV and 6 years left after this one. Go check out the buyout calculator on it. It’s almost buyout proof for the duration as well.
Jan 13 at 3:48
#9
Subbanator
Joined: Jul 2017
Posts: 2,592
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Quoting: Caniac555
Wondering how many people actually realize just how bad that contract really is. It’s not just the AAV and 6 years left after this one. Go check out the buyout calculator on it. It’s almost buyout proof for the duration as well.


He will play out the contract, not at the 10.5 value but still think he has a Lundqvuist / Rinne like career, plays until his late 30s at least.
Jan 13 at 3:49
#10
Subbanator
Joined: Jul 2017
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People can complain that he isn't what he used to be but there are still a few NHL GMs that think he ie the best goalie in the league and would trade for him. Im not aying their right but people on here seem to think no tea would take him and his cap hit when in reality there would be multiple teams willing to add him.
Jan 13 at 3:54
#11
Hurricane Waddell
Joined: May 2018
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I hope so, the old time thinking on this will kill franchises in the long run and cost GMs their jobs. Having this kind of nut of your cap spent on one point of failure is a losing bet. The cap would need to balloon to the 110-120m range before it would be a feasible number. Habs will be working (the cap) with one of their hands tied behind their back until 2027.

Quoting: Subbanator7667
People can complain that he isn't what he used to be but there are still a few NHL GMs that think he ie the best goalie in the league and would trade for him. Im not aying their right but people on here seem to think no tea would take him and his cap hit when in reality there would be multiple teams willing to add him.
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Jan 13 at 3:58
#12
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Price is not a good goalie anymore. Combined with his bad performance he has one of the worst contracts in the league already. And still plenty of term left

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Jan 13 at 4:00
#13
Subbanator
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Quoting: Caniac555
I hope so, the old time thinking on this will kill franchises in the long run and cost GMs their jobs. Having this kind of nut of your cap spent on one point of failure is a losing bet. The cap would need to balloon to the 110-120m range before it would be a feasible number. Habs will be working (the cap) with one of their hands tied behind their back until 2027.


its the same contract king Henrik signed at the same age and they didt have any problems moving forward. Add in the likel hood that the new tv deal and gambling will balloon the cap to a number that yo likely notice a lot less. Not going to be great to see every year but also dont think it will hurt them unless they get a stand out super star from somewhere that demands to get paid but I dont see that happening unless they magically win the lottery this year and get Lafreniere
Jan 13 at 4:01
#14
Joined: Jun 2015
Posts: 7,693
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Quoting: EzioUchiha
Trading Carey Price to trigger the entire hockey fanbase, particularly the Avs' ( @coga16 ), has been a daily routine here in AGM.
It has gotten to the point even non-Habs are making these trades. lmao smh


If I see a price trade, click on the poster and if they aren’t a habs fan I ignore It. It’s not fun to debate the if they don’t have skin in the game

You notice the other fan bases who post them never comment on them so no point

Give me the cream of the crop homer habs on this site, then we got ourselves a live one
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Jan 13 at 4:01
#15
Hurricane Waddell
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Even so, let’s say best case Habs win lotto, draft AL, and he’s a superstar. Cap strapped to field a good roster around them when AL is off his ELC and getting paid.

Quoting: Subbanator7667
its the same contract king Henrik signed at the same age and they didt have any problems moving forward. Add in the likel hood that the new tv deal and gambling will balloon the cap to a number that yo likely notice a lot less. Not going to be great to see every year but also dont think it will hurt them unless they get a stand out super star from somewhere that demands to get paid but I dont see that happening unless they magically win the lottery this year and get Lafreniere
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Jan 13 at 4:03
#16
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Quoting: Subbanator7667
its the same contract king Henrik signed at the same age and they didt have any problems moving forward. Add in the likel hood that the new tv deal and gambling will balloon the cap to a number that yo likely notice a lot less. Not going to be great to see every year but also dont think it will hurt them unless they get a stand out super star from somewhere that demands to get paid but I dont see that happening unless they magically win the lottery this year and get Lafreniere


The difference between Lundqvist and Price is that Price is not playing well at the age of 31. Lundqvist is 37 and a Top 10 goalie in the league right now. But there is obviously room for a bounceback for Price
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Jan 13 at 4:04
#17
Hurricane Waddell
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Here is the money shot - Hank still plays at a high end (borderline elite) level at the end of his contract. Price still hasn’t even hit the quarter pole of his deal.

Quoting: Linie057
Price is not a good goalie anymore. Combined with his bad performance he has one of the worst contracts in the league already. And still plenty of term left
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Jan 13 at 4:07
#18
Subbanator
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Quoting: Caniac555
Even so, let’s say best case Habs win lotto, draft AL, and he’s a superstar. Cap strapped to field a good roster around them when AL is off his ELC and getting paid.


For sure, but even then, you get a superstar to start producing and the team starts winning then people shut up in general so its just a circle of crap at that point.
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Jan 13 at 4:13
#19
Hurricane Waddell
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Yes, a big circle of crap. That’s about the best way to put it.

Ultimately It just isn’t feasible to take a risk in trading for Price in a high stake game of poker like the NHL contracts and roster constructions are. It be like going all in when you have 2-7 offsuit. You COULD win with Price’s contract...just not a risk you have to take.

Quoting: Subbanator7667
For sure, but even then, you get a superstar to start producing and the team starts winning then people shut up in general so its just a circle of crap at that point.
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Jan 13 at 4:20
#20
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Quoting: Caniac555
Even so, let’s say best case Habs win lotto, draft AL, and he’s a superstar. Cap strapped to field a good roster around them when AL is off his ELC and getting paid.


we arent cap strapped though. we have **** ton of capsapce coming up
Jan 13 at 4:24
#21
Hurricane Waddell
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You also aren’t competitive

Quoting: Price_is_the_goat
we arent cap strapped though. we have **** ton of capsapce coming up
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Jan 13 at 4:27
#22
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Quoting: Caniac555
You also aren’t competitive


id say no to that. they haven't been outplayed. they just get lazy during the 3rd period.
Jan 13 at 4:30
#23
Hurricane Waddell
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Honestly, I’m not trying to be a asshole...but assuming you are a Habs fan, can you honestly say you feel you are ready to compete for a Stanley Cup in the next 2-3 years?

Quoting: Price_is_the_goat
id say no to that. they haven't been outplayed. they just get lazy during the 3rd period.
Jan 13 at 4:33
#24
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Quoting: Caniac555
Honestly, I’m not trying to be a asshole...but assuming you are a Habs fan, can you honestly say you feel you are ready to compete for a Stanley Cup in the next 2-3 years?


2-3 years? easily. look at their youth group and core group. they can make deep runs. KK would be 21-22, suzuki would be 22-23, domi would be 25-26 . caufield would be 21-22. weber would be 2nd pairing D, but still a solid top 4. im not saying they're gonna be the penguins with crosby malkin, but id say they would be one of the better teams in the atlantic., the future is really bright for this team. and retools are quick nowadays
Jan 13 at 4:47
#25
Hurricane Waddell
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I respect that, but as an outsider...I think that is a very optimistic outlook. I don’t see a superstar, and frankly you need 1-2 of those to be a cup contender.

I think Weber and Price would need to be playing at Elite levels, and you’d need all of the guys you mentioned to hit their peak.

Quoting: Price_is_the_goat
2-3 years? easily. look at their youth group and core group. they can make deep runs. KK would be 21-22, suzuki would be 22-23, domi would be 25-26 . caufield would be 21-22. weber would be 2nd pairing D, but still a solid top 4. im not saying they're gonna be the penguins with crosby malkin, but id say they would be one of the better teams in the atlantic., the future is really bright for this team. and retools are quick nowadays
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