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Defense

Created by: wward93
Initial Creation Date: Jan 13, 2020
Published: Jan 13 at 4:31 pm
Team: 2020-21 Toronto Maple Leafs
Team Explanation
Carolina seems to want wingers and have d to spare. St Louis needs to make room for Pietrangelo or let him walk. If you don't think those trades are close what would make them work?
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Dermott, Travis2$2,000,000
Engvall, Pierre2$950,000
Brooks, Adam2$800,000
Mikheyev, Ilya3$2,250,000
Marchment, Mason2$750,000
Åberg, Pontus1$750,000
Kivihalme, Teemu1$750,000
Gauthier, Frédérik1$750,000
Timashov, Dmytro1$750,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Crawford, Corey1$1,500,000
Trades
TOR
  1. Pesce, Brett
CAR
  1. Kapanen, Kasperi
  2. Bracco, Jeremy [RFA Rights]
  3. Král, Filip [Reserve List]
TOR
  1. Parayko, Colton
STL
  1. Liljegren, Timothy
  2. Der-Arguchintsev, Semyon
Buyouts
  • Mikhail Grabovski: $0
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Phil Kessel: $1,200,000 (15%)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
TOR
CBJ
TOR
VGK
TOR
CAR
COL
SJS
STL
WPG
2021
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
2022
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
21$83,000,000$82,983,533$0$0$16,467
Left WingCenterRight Wing
TOR
Johnsson, Andreas
$3,400,000
LW
UFA - 3
TOR
Matthews, Auston
$11,634,000
C
UFA - 4
TOR
Marner, Mitchell
$10,893,000
RW
UFA - 5
TOR
Hyman, Zach
$2,250,000
LW
NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Tavares, John
$11,000,000
C
NMC
UFA - 5
TOR
Nylander, William
$6,962,366
RW, C
UFA - 4
TOR
Mikheyev, Ilya
$2,250,000
LW, RW
RFA
TOR
Kerfoot, Alexander
$3,500,000
C, LW
UFA - 3
TOR
Moore, Trevor
$775,000
RW, LW
RFA - 1
TOR
Engvall, Pierre
$950,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
TOR
Brooks, Adam
$800,000
C
RFA
TOR
Marchment, Mason
$750,000
LW
RFA
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
TOR
Rielly, Morgan
$5,000,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 2
STL
Parayko, Colton
$5,500,000
RD
UFA - 2
TOR
Andersen, Frederik
$5,000,000
G
NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Dermott, Travis
$2,000,000
LD
RFA
CAR
Pesce, Brett
$4,025,000
RD
UFA - 4
Crawford, Corey
$1,500,000
G
UFA
TOR
Sandin, Rasmus
$894,167
LD
RFA - 2
TOR
Holl, Justin
$2,000,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 3
TOR
Marincin, Martin
$700,000
LD
UFA - 1

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Jan 13 at 4:32
#1
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Both defensemen would cost Marner +.
Jan 13 at 4:33
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Crow won't sign with another team for $1.5M; simply not worth it. Leafs should make a trade for him now if they any attention of signing him for next year; the Leafs could obviously use Crow this year anyway.
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Jan 13 at 4:39
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st louis will charge u the moon for parayko. (more like nylander lol) and that wont get u pesce
Jan 13 at 4:40
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Quoting: ChiHawk
Crow won't sign with another team for $1.5M; simply not worth it. Leafs should make a trade for him now if they any attention of signing him for next year; the Leafs could obviously use Crow this year anyway.


Yeah didn't think he would leave the hawks. Just kind of represents 1.5 mil for a back up
Jan 13 at 4:44
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Quoting: MikeyThePensFan
Both defensemen would cost Marner +.


This is a gross exaggeration... Pesce is great defensively, but isn't the best defenseman on Carolina (Gardiner is the worst smile )
Parayko on the other hand is having an off season defensively, while also not producing as much as years prior (barely missing the pace he set last year (28 points - 82 games).

I agree that the Leafs need defenseman that can play sound defensive hockey. That isn't all that they need though. The Leafs need players that play a 60 minute game, that have the drive to play. Having Matthews, Marner, Nylander, Tavares play to 30% of their capability isn't getting it done for the Leafs. Neither is the defenseman/forwards not being positionally sound.

Do I think Kappy + Bracco is fair for Pesce, god no, but there is no way its Marner+ going back the other way. I think a fair deal would be Nylander (provides offense for the Canes, not great defensively) for Pesce (sound defensively - for the most part - lacks offensive production, good compliment for Reilly/Dermott) +prospect (either LHD or C - with Necas being way too expensive)
Jan 13 at 4:49
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Quoting: wward93
Yeah didn't think he would leave the hawks. Just kind of represents 1.5 mil for a back up


Hawks aren't going to bring him back if they pay Lehner and he stays which is the intent, they simply can't afford to pay Lehner ($7M to $8M) and also Crow who will cost at least $2M if not $3M to continue playing is my guess. That said, if Crow agrees to waive in a TDL move this year, Hawks are pretty much out of the playoff race, I could see him going to a team like the Leafs to take another shot at a ring the next couple years prior to retiring.
Jan 13 at 5:06
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Quoting: jmac490
This is a gross exaggeration... Pesce is great defensively, but isn't the best defenseman on Carolina (Gardiner is the worst smile )
Parayko on the other hand is having an off season defensively, while also not producing as much as years prior (barely missing the pace he set last year (28 points - 82 games).

I agree that the Leafs need defenseman that can play sound defensive hockey. That isn't all that they need though. The Leafs need players that play a 60 minute game, that have the drive to play. Having Matthews, Marner, Nylander, Tavares play to 30% of their capability isn't getting it done for the Leafs. Neither is the defenseman/forwards not being positionally sound.

Do I think Kappy + Bracco is fair for Pesce, god no, but there is no way its Marner+ going back the other way. I think a fair deal would be Nylander (provides offense for the Canes, not great defensively) for Pesce (sound defensively - for the most part - lacks offensive production, good compliment for Reilly/Dermott) +prospect (either LHD or C - with Necas being way too expensive)


Yeah I don’t think Marner is going to fetch you a top pairing defenseman.
Jan 13 at 5:17
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Quoting: MikeyThePensFan
Yeah I don’t think Marner is going to fetch you a top pairing defenseman.


that's fair. you're entitled to your opinion.

As a pens fan, do you think that Guentzel could nab a top pairing defenseman?
Jan 13 at 5:21
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Quoting: Price_is_the_goat
st louis will charge u the moon for parayko. (more like nylander lol) and that wont get u pesce


My line of think was that they would move parayko to clear room for Pietrangelo plus they would be getting a top Rd prospect back. Sending them Nylander wouldn't create cap room for them
Jan 13 at 5:25
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Quoting: wward93
My line of think was that they would move parayko to clear room for Pietrangelo plus they would be getting a top Rd prospect back. Sending them Nylander wouldn't create cap room for them


i dont think thye would move parayko for pieteragenlo. look at the age and contract difference. they'll make a run and let him walk in FA. thats why they traded for faulk. plus dunn is getting better and better. thye need space for him in the top 4 too
Jan 13 at 5:29
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Quoting: jmac490
that's fair. you're entitled to your opinion.

As a pens fan, do you think that Guentzel could nab a top pairing defenseman?


Guentzel will because he’s a 40 goal 80-90 point guy and he’s making only 6 million dollars a year. Marner ability wise should easily fetch you an elite top pairing defenseman but his contract deflated his value.
Jan 13 at 8:45
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Big swing and a miss
 
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