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Theyre sinking like a stone in the murky Red River HabsWingsNYI HawksSJ trades

Created by: MisstheWhalers
Initial Creation Date: Jan 12, 2020
Published: Jan 13 at 6:34 pm
Team: 2019-20 Winnipeg Jets
Team Explanation
A middle 6 winger-check
Two top 4 D-check
4th line center-check
Dumped the dullest player in the league-check

I don't think Buff is coming back.
I think these are pretty fair trades.
Does this team make the playoffs?

All opinions are welcome.
Trades
WPG
  1. Dillon, Brenden
SJS
  1. 2020 3rd round pick (WPG)
  2. 2021 5th round pick (WPG)
WPG
  1. Athanasiou, Andreas
DET
  1. Samberg, Dylan [Reserve List]
  2. Spacek, Michael
  3. 2020 2nd round pick (WPG)
WPG
  1. 2020 3rd round pick (NYI)
NYI
  1. Lowry, Adam
WPG
  1. Murphy, Connor
CHI
  1. Stanley, Logan
  2. 2021 1st round pick (WPG)
  3. 2022 2nd round pick (WPG)
WPG
  1. Thompson, Nate
MTL
  1. 2022 5th round pick (WPG)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
WPG
NYI
WPG
WPG
2021
WPG
WPG
WPG
WPG
2022
WPG
WPG
WPG
WPG
WPG
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$78,235,355$0$212,500$3,264,645
Left WingCenterRight Wing
WPG
Connor, Kyle
$7,142,857
LW
UFA - 7
WPG
Scheifele, Mark
$6,125,000
C
UFA - 5
WPG
Laine, Patrik
$6,750,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
WPG
Ehlers, Nikolaj
$6,000,000
RW, LW
UFA - 6
WPG
Wheeler, Blake
$8,250,000
RW, C
NMC
UFA - 5
DET
Athanasiou, Andreas
$3,000,000
C, LW, RW
RFA - 1
WPG
Copp, Andrew
$2,280,000
C, LW
RFA - 2
WPG
Little, Bryan
$5,291,666
C, RW
NMC
UFA - 5
WPG
Roslovic, Jack
$894,166
RW, C
RFA - 1
WPG
Perreault, Mathieu
$4,125,000
LW, C
NTC
UFA - 2
MTL
Thompson, Nate
$1,000,000
C
UFA - 1
WPG
Appleton, Mason
$741,667
RW, C
RFA - 1
WPG
Shore, Nick
$750,000
C
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
WPG
Morrissey, Joshua
$3,150,000
LD
UFA - 1
CHI
Murphy, Connor
$3,850,000
RD
UFA - 3
WPG
Hellebuyck, Connor
$6,166,666
G
UFA - 5
SJS
Dillon, Brenden
$1,635,000
LD
UFA - 1
WPG
Pionk, Neal
$3,000,000
RD
RFA - 2
WPG
Brossoit, Laurent
$1,225,000
G
UFA - 1
WPG
Sbisa, Luca
$750,000
LD
UFA - 1
WPG
Poolman, Tucker
$775,000
RD
UFA - 2
WPG
Kulikov, Dmitry
$4,333,333
LD
NTC
UFA - 1
WPG
Beaulieu, Nathan
$1,000,000
LD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
WPG
Byfuglien, Dustin
$7,600,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 2
WPG
Letestu, Mark
$700,000
C, RW
UFA - 1

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Jan 13 at 8:52
#26
Karsenbill
Joined: Jun 2019
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
Doubt it but we'll see, I don't think he's worth more then a 3rd but I know Sharks fans think he's worth more so I sent a 5th too.

Trust me, he will fetch a 2nd and a prospect. He’s only a -1 on a team with a terrible goal differential. If Wilson got a 2nd and 3rd for Braun, he will do much better for Dillon at the TDL where trans typically overpay. Especially teams desperate for D like the Jets. You’ll see.
Jan 13 at 9:12
#27
a11111
Joined: Jun 2017
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Mtl say yes to the proposition and offer Marco Scandella for a 4th (any year) which is the price we just paid for him . We hope to sign him back in july good buy !
Jan 13 at 9:34
#28
Thread Starter
MisstheWhalers
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Quoting: Bill_Karsen
Trust me, he will fetch a 2nd and a prospect. He’s only a -1 on a team with a terrible goal differential. If Wilson got a 2nd and 3rd for Braun, he will do much better for Dillon at the TDL where trans typically overpay. Especially teams desperate for D like the Jets. You’ll see.


I hope the Jets aren't that desperate, unless they get really bold they're really going nowhere, would just be a waste of assets on a rental.

Personally I think Dubas overpaid for Muzzin so maybe he'll cough up a nice package for Dillon, I just hope Chevy doesn't. I think Dillon is solid but the Jets just aren't an organization that should be dealing valuable assets for rentals especially in what's likely a lost season.
Jan 14 at 3:45
#29
LGI
Joined: Feb 2019
Posts: 762
Likes: 212
Quoting: MisstheWhalers
I'd deal him in a heartbeat if I was Chevy, he's terrible, would likely do well in Trotz defense first system though.


Exactly why I think he would be a good fit is because of his defensive game. Isles need a 3c and he could be a good fit
Jan 14 at 10:50
#30
Joined: Feb 2017
Posts: 1,211
Likes: 388
Quoting: MisstheWhalers
I'd deal him in a heartbeat if I was Chevy, he's terrible, would likely do well in Trotz defense first system though.


I think the best place for Lowry is on the 4th line. He still is a valuable player, but he shouldnt be a 3C right now...better to give that spot to Copp or even Little when/if he's back
Jan 14 at 10:52
#31
Joined: Feb 2017
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I like Connor Murphy and his contract, but if Im the jets Im not trading away a 1st. Even if that is the cost...the jets need to hit on their picks
Jan 14 at 11:01
#32
Thread Starter
MisstheWhalers
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Quoting: masterjuddi
I think the best place for Lowry is on the 4th line. He still is a valuable player, but he shouldnt be a 3C right now...better to give that spot to Copp or even Little when/if he's back


I agree but he's easier to replace then many think, there's countless guys who could be good 4C's for $2M less a season then Lowry.

Copp should be the 3C now, hopefully Little comes back and can contribute, heard he skated at practice in a non contact jersey yesterday, he'll help anywhere in the middle 6 if he's back to 100%.
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Jan 14 at 11:02
#33
Thread Starter
MisstheWhalers
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Quoting: masterjuddi
I like Connor Murphy and his contract, but if Im the jets Im not trading away a 1st. Even if that is the cost...the jets need to hit on their picks


Can't wait around for every pick to hit, that takes years and this team needs help now, Murphy isn't a rental which is why I'd target him, teams trade 1sts for rentals all the time.
Jan 14 at 11:54
#34
Joined: Feb 2017
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
Can't wait around for every pick to hit, that takes years and this team needs help now, Murphy isn't a rental which is why I'd target him, teams trade 1sts for rentals all the time.


Sure you can wait around...the jets have done it for years and it has paid off amazingly. I like the idea of making a deal, but not if it includes a first. Jets have drafted and developed well enough to use some of those guys opposed to the first. Just my opinion. Plus I hate watching the draft when your team doesnt have a pick in the 1st
Jan 14 at 12:16
#35
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MisstheWhalers
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Quoting: masterjuddi
Sure you can wait around...the jets have done it for years and it has paid off amazingly. I like the idea of making a deal, but not if it includes a first. Jets have drafted and developed well enough to use some of those guys opposed to the first. Just my opinion. Plus I hate watching the draft when your team doesnt have a pick in the 1st


So Scheiffele isn't gonna be 26 forever, you realize that yeah?!.. Times a wasting here and key guys are getting older and they really haven't found anything special outside of the 1st round, they need to make some deals before it's too late.
Jan 14 at 12:24
#36
Justin
Joined: Mar 2019
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
Heinola yeah but Samberg is meh, doesn't impress me at all.


he has 16 points in 19 games so hes obviously pretty decent. a plus 9 as well
Jan 14 at 12:25
#37
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MisstheWhalers
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Quoting: masterjuddi
Sure you can wait around...the jets have done it for years and it has paid off amazingly. I like the idea of making a deal, but not if it includes a first. Jets have drafted and developed well enough to use some of those guys opposed to the first. Just my opinion. Plus I hate watching the draft when your team doesnt have a pick in the 1st


Oh and if it had paid off "amazingly" as you put it they wouldn't be in the shape they're in today.. Lol
Jan 14 at 12:26
#38
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MisstheWhalers
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Quoting: bunzy1034
he has 16 points in 19 games so hes obviously pretty decent. a plus 9 as well


I've watched him a bit, doesn't impress me, no guarantee he wants to be a Jet either.
Jan 14 at 12:42
#39
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
So Scheiffele isn't gonna be 26 forever, you realize that yeah?!.. Times a wasting here and key guys are getting older and they really haven't found anything special outside of the 1st round, they need to make some deals before it's too late.


and I agree...just dont like the 1st being dealt
and yes I realize 55 isnt going to be 26 forever, but his prime isnt being wasted either
Jan 14 at 12:44
#40
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
Oh and if it had paid off "amazingly" as you put it they wouldn't be in the shape they're in today.. Lol


You cant argue the draft and develop model the jets have used. Those first rounders are not the problem right now.
The "shape" there in right now, IMO, is mainly due to no Buf and no way to replace Buf. Adding him or spending his cap makes this team better
 
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