Saad and Murphy for Nylander and Ceci

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Created by: NextYearIsOurYear

Team: 2019-20 Chicago Blackhawks

Initial Creation Date: Jan. 13, 2020

Published: Jan. 13, 2020

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

Made under the assumption that Seabrook and Shaw are done. Could probably work even if they aren't with some tweaks but this'll have to do for now.

Trying to value it to help Torontos cap problems and defense. This year they'd save close to $5M in cap space with this deal, giving them more options to be buyers if they want. They would also have Saad and Murphy next year too for a combined cap hit of $6,5M, instead of Nylander for close to $7M. After that they'd still have Murphy for an extra year with a cap hit of $2,5M.

From the Hawks perspective I thought trading for William Nylander and hoping the brothers have chemistry and can help Alex to reach his potential seemed like a good idea in theory. Chicago also needs more skilled offensive forwards IMO. I don't see the Hawks being contenders in 1-2 years anyway so I figured this could work out. Try to build to go on a run when Boq/Dach are on the last year on their ELCs and Saads retention comes off the books.

I originally had Gus for Raddysh and a pick but saw that trade form VGK and liked the return better so I stole it...

Didn't put much effort into the TBL trade. Anyone have any other suggestions go for it. Really want to re-unite the Erie Otters tho. This could be a move for next season, doesn't have to be now.

For next year maybe trade one of DeHaan/Määttä for a cheap-ish RHD? Let Ceci and Holden walk. Sign Mitchell. Re-sign Lehner and Kubalik. Crawford I'm 50/50 on. If he wants to take a cheap 1 or 2 year deal to stay with the Hawks as a backup I'm fine with it, but I don't want to spend more than $2-3M on a backup.

Let me know if this looks alright value wise or if not what needs work.

Trades

CHI

Ceci, Cody
Nylander, William
2021 3rd round pick (TOR)

TOR

Murphy, Connor ($1,350,000 retained)
Saad, Brandon ($2,000,000 retained)
2021 7th round pick (CHI)

CHI

Holden, Nick
2020 2nd round pick (VGK)
2021 2nd round pick (NJD)

VGK

Gustafsson, Erik

CHI

Raddysh, Taylor

TBL

Caggiula, Drake ($750,000 retained)

Retained Salary Transactions

Brandon Saad: $2,000,000 (40%)
Connor Murphy: $1,350,000 (35.06%)
Drake Caggiula: $750,000 (50%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2020
2021
2022

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

EMBED

TEXT-EMBED

ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
22	$81,500,000	$61,266,552	$0	$7,557,500	$20,233,448

Roster

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Nylander, Alexander $863,333$863,333 ($850,000$850K) RW, LW RFA - 2	Toews, Jonathan $10,500,000$10,500,000 C NMC UFA - 4	Nylander, William $6,962,366$6,962,366 RW UFA - 5
Kubalik, Dominik $925,000$925,000 ($850,000$850K) LW, RW UFA - 1	Dach, Kirby $925,000$925,000 ($2,500,000$2M) C, RW RFA - 3	Kane, Patrick $2,625,000$2,625,000 RW NMC UFA - 4
DeBrincat, Alex $778,333$778,333 ($32,500$32K) LW, RW UFA - 1	Strome, Dylan $863,333$863,333 ($2,475,000$2M) C UFA - 1	Raddysh, Taylor $833,333$833,333 RW RFA - 2
Smith, Zack $3,250,000$3,250,000 LW, C M-NTC UFA - 2	Carpenter, Ryan $1,000,000$1,000,000 RW, C UFA - 3	Kämpf, David $1,000,000$1,000,000 C UFA - 2

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Keith, Duncan $5,538,462$5,538,462 LD NMC UFA - 4	Boqvist, Adam $894,167$894,167 ($850,000$850K) RD RFA - 3	Crawford, Corey $6,000,000$6,000,000 G M-NTC, NMC UFA - 1
Määttä, Olli $3,333,225$3,333,225 LD UFA - 3	Ceci, Cody $4,500,000$4,500,000 RD UFA - 1	Lehner, Robin $1,400,000$1,400,000 G UFA - 1
Gilbert, Dennis $925,000$925,000 LD UFA - 2	Holden, Nick $2,200,000$2,200,000 LD UFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Koekkoek, Slater $925,000$925,000 LD/RD UFA - 1		Seabrook, Brent $6,875,000$6,875,000 RD NMC UFA - 5
Wedin, Anton $925,000$925,000 LW, RW UFA - 1		De Haan, Calvin $4,550,000$4,550,000 LD/RD UFA - 3
		Shaw, Andrew $3,900,000$3,900,000 C, RW UFA - 3

Special Teams

Power Play 1
DeBrincat, A.		Raddysh, T.		Strome, D.
	Keith, D.		Kane, P.

Power Play 2
Nylander, A.		Toews, J.		Nylander, W.
	Boqvist, A.		Kubalik, D.

Penalty Kill 1
	Toews, J.	Carpenter, R.
	Keith, D.	Määttä, O.

Penalty Kill 2
	Kämpf, D.	Smith, Z.
	Gilbert, D.	Holden, N.

Jan. 14, 2020 at 3:10 p.m.

#26

NextYearIsOurYear

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Quoting: exo2769

Can we stop with the Nylander to CHI trades.

Quoting: Petrock83

Please god stop trading for Nylander.

Haha I will try any hail mary I can to try and justify the Jokiharju for Alex Nylander trade, lol. Which is funny because I don't even think Alex have been that bad, just for what we gave up I was hoping for more.

No but seriously I think we can all agree that the Hawks shouldn't do this. Leafs shouldn't either probably. Was just trying to gauge the value.

Jan. 14, 2020 at 3:20 p.m.

#27

NextYearIsOurYear

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Quoting: mondo

He's not.

Haha okay. The more (less) you know..

Jan. 14, 2020 at 5:44 p.m.

#28

Aussie_Blackhawk

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I stopped reading once I seen that there was retention involved for CHI. Thats a big red flag for us and would kill the deal regardless of the trade. That would be like paying Nylander $10m+ and he's not worth that. CHI would say No just as much as TOR fans on here would say no.

Ultimately this doesn't work for either side.

Jan. 14, 2020 at 6:12 p.m.

#29

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Quoting: NextYearIsOurYear

Really? That's interesting. Had no idea Marner was more expendable than Nylander for the Leafs.

Quoting: mondo

He's not.

He is. Out of the 4 highest paid forwards Toronto has, Marner is the most expendable. He doesn’t have a good contract and he’s not a franchise center. So he’s the least untouchable.

Jan. 14, 2020 at 8:51 p.m.

#30

NextYearIsOurYear

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Quoting: Aussie_Blackhawk

Yeah this was more of a line up idea I had and decided to test the value to see if it could happen. I can agree that neither team would probably want to do this. I also don't think the Hawks have any interest in moving Murphy at all.

As for the retention, I personally don't see it being a huge problem to retain some salary on Saad (if they decide to move him) if they could vastly improve the return. But all that also depends on if Seabrook, Shaw, De Haan will play next year.

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Jan. 14, 2020 at 9:06 p.m.

#31

Aussie_Blackhawk

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Quoting: NextYearIsOurYear

Yeah very dependant on our LTIR this year and agree could see us holding 1m of Saad deal for the right return though don't think there would be any other retention.

I also agree that Murphy is unlikely to be moved. He has a great cap hit for us and has been our best D man.

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Jan. 14, 2020 at 11:29 p.m.

#32

mondo

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Quoting: MikeyThePensFan

He is. Out of the 4 highest paid forwards Toronto has, Marner is the most expendable. He doesn’t have a good contract and he’s not a franchise center. So he’s the least untouchable.

Your obsession with him doesn't make him expendable.

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