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Preds needs grit and defensive player to get in the dance

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Team: 2019-20 Nashville Predators
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 14, 2020
Published: Jan. 14, 2020
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  1. Palat, Ondrej
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TB save 5M in 2021 in getting a great skilled player
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  1. Granlund, Mikael
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Grandlund would fit better in TB
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  1. Kovalchuk, Ilya
  2. Petry, Jeff
  3. Poehling, Ryan
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Acquiring TOP4 def is a priority
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Jan. 14, 2020 at 9:37 a.m.
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Johansen is overpaid. Montreal isn't going to give you quality players for him.
Jan. 14, 2020 at 9:40 a.m.
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Preds would have to add for Palat
Jan. 14, 2020 at 10:04 a.m.
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Quoting: Zwui21
Preds would have to add for Palat


IDK, we are in a cap crunch next year. JBB dumped Miller for a first round pick, it is possible. I would hate to see Palat go, finally healthy and back to his old self.
Jan. 14, 2020 at 11:29 a.m.
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IDK, we are in a cap crunch next year. JBB dumped Miller for a first round pick, it is possible. I would hate to see Palat go, finally healthy and back to his old self.


Exactly that's why Preds doesn't need to add on...
Jan. 14, 2020 at 11:46 a.m.
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Quoting: DomCholette
Exactly that's why Preds doesn't need to add on...


You guys should have learned after the JT Miller deal that Tampa doesn't sell his pieces as if it was a yard sale. No matter what anybody says here, all the 5M club (Palat, Johnson, Gourde) has some market value and there is no way a team gets them for free
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Jan. 14, 2020 at 12:41 p.m.
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Johansen is overpaid. Montreal isn't going to give you quality players for him.


I forgot about you always complaining... NEVER TRADE A HABS PLAYER!!!
It's true we should offer Preds: Cousin, Weal, Kulak, Weise for him!
MTL will missed the playoff again and Preds are couple of points behind and need to ensure their top4D.
Petry will want 6-7M a year in 2 years... and we will lose him for a 2nd rd pick in 2021... so getting a TOPC 6'3'' is a most as Domi would play wing with Drouin
Jan. 14, 2020 at 12:53 p.m.
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Quoting: DomCholette
I forgot about you always complaining... NEVER TRADE A HABS PLAYER!!!
It's true we should offer Preds: Cousin, Weal, Kulak, Weise for him!
MTL will missed the playoff again and Preds are couple of points behind and need to ensure their top4D.
Petry will want 6-7M a year in 2 years... and we will lose him for a 2nd rd pick in 2021... so getting a TOPC 6'3'' is a most as Domi would play wing with Drouin


We don't need an overpaid 2nd line center.

We will trade Petry and get more futures for him. 1st + other assets.
Jan. 14, 2020 at 1:18 p.m.
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We don't need an overpaid 2nd line center.

We will trade Petry and get more futures for him. 1st + other assets.


Again Suspect... oups sorry my french Prospect flushed cheeks
Can we have a good team once for all!
Jan. 14, 2020 at 1:29 p.m.
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Quoting: DomCholette
Again Suspect... oups sorry my french Prospect flushed cheeks
Can we have a good team once for all!


This trade wouldn't give us a good team. We don't need any more overpaid players.
Jan. 14, 2020 at 3:12 p.m.
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This trade wouldn't give us a good team. We don't need any more overpaid players.


How much you think Domi will ask & Get???5-6M... Nop close to 8M for a 60pts guy signed until he will have 30yo.
Jan. 14, 2020 at 4:04 p.m.
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Quoting: DomCholette
How much you think Domi will ask & Get???5-6M... Nop close to 8M for a 60pts guy signed until he will have 30yo.


Highly doubt Domi gets 8 Million. More like 6.5-7.5
Jan. 15, 2020 at 1:39 a.m.
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Adding Poehling is an overpay, heck even adding Kovalchuk. Johansen, currently, is a 50 point C making 8M, while Petry is a 5.5M 20+min/gm dman on pace for 45-50 points, which probably favours NSH this season and next. The extra seasons Johansen is signed for actually make him less valuable in my mind, although that's because I'm expecting at least 2 of Kotkaniemi, Suzuki and Poehling to be 50 point C or better in the next few years, making Johansen an 8M/season 3C.
I doubt Petry would be the RD NSH would be interested in anyway if they were dealing with MTL, although he is a good short term solution for them he doesn't help that highly damaging cap situation that might crop up down the road known as Weber's recapture penalty.
Also, MTL likely doesn't have much interest in Johansen, at least not in a deal like this. They aren't a 50 point C away from competing, especially if the are losing a 40 point RD in the process. If they are trading off Petry this season it would either need to be an obvious overpay, since MTL doesn't need to deal him this season to not lose him for nothing, or it means they are committing to finishing the rebuild that last seasons run caused them to drop, and while Johansen would be just inside the age of players I would consider keeping the fact that he has that much term at that price makes him a bad choice.
Jan. 16, 2020 at 12:16 p.m.
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Adding Poehling is an overpay, heck even adding Kovalchuk. Johansen, currently, is a 50 point C making 8M, while Petry is a 5.5M 20+min/gm dman on pace for 45-50 points, which probably favours NSH this season and next. The extra seasons Johansen is signed for actually make him less valuable in my mind, although that's because I'm expecting at least 2 of Kotkaniemi, Suzuki and Poehling to be 50 point C or better in the next few years, making Johansen an 8M/season 3C.
I doubt Petry would be the RD NSH would be interested in anyway if they were dealing with MTL, although he is a good short term solution for them he doesn't help that highly damaging cap situation that might crop up down the road known as Weber's recapture penalty.
Also, MTL likely doesn't have much interest in Johansen, at least not in a deal like this. They aren't a 50 point C away from competing, especially if the are losing a 40 point RD in the process. If they are trading off Petry this season it would either need to be an obvious overpay, since MTL doesn't need to deal him this season to not lose him for nothing, or it means they are committing to finishing the rebuild that last seasons run caused them to drop, and while Johansen would be just inside the age of players I would consider keeping the fact that he has that much term at that price makes him a bad choice.


I understand your point for Petry.. But I think we can find someone behing Weby this summer like: Vatanen, Barrie or even Gustafson for less$ than Petry.
In regards of our Center position... I like our youth but can we wait 2-3 years before getting rewarded? Sorry but NO. enough is enough in getting a bad team year after year as Price & Weber are getting out of their prime. Barkov, Bergeron, O'Reilly Center becomes dominant @ 25yo... That's mean in 3-4 years from now for KK, Suzuki & Poehling... So I think getting Johansen for the next 5 years is a must... as MTL/ Bergevin failed in the last 5 years in getting a TOP Real Center.
Jan. 16, 2020 at 12:47 p.m.
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Quoting: DomCholette
I understand your point for Petry.. But I think we can find someone behing Weby this summer like: Vatanen, Barrie or even Gustafson for less$ than Petry.
In regards of our Center position... I like our youth but can we wait 2-3 years before getting rewarded? Sorry but NO. enough is enough in getting a bad team year after year as Price & Weber are getting out of their prime. Barkov, Bergeron, O'Reilly Center becomes dominant @ 25yo... That's mean in 3-4 years from now for KK, Suzuki & Poehling... So I think getting Johansen for the next 5 years is a must... as MTL/ Bergevin failed in the last 5 years in getting a TOP Real Center.


Add 2.5M onto whatever Dman you acquire to replace Petry to compensate for the difference between him and Johansen. I have no problem doing a proper rebuild and waiting for the youth, because I think that will lead to a team with a better chance to achieve the real goal of winning a cup, while this deal gives a better chance at making playoffs in the next 2-3 seasons but not really being a legitimate contender. While I would love to see them win a cup with Price and Weber the team isn't built for that right now, and I doubt Johansen changes that. The only way the team competes for a cup in Price and Weber's window is to buy aggressively using the assets that won't be ready until their window is shut, and that just means more bad teams after, and even that is a long shot. Johansen isn't a real top C, he is typically a 55-60 point C, who seems to have declined to a 50-55 point C, and might not even be that.
Your underselling useful assets for MTL in the desperate hope that Johansen is somehow going to be the answer in MTL.
Jan. 16, 2020 at 3:46 p.m.
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Add 2.5M onto whatever Dman you acquire to replace Petry to compensate for the difference between him and Johansen. I have no problem doing a proper rebuild and waiting for the youth, because I think that will lead to a team with a better chance to achieve the real goal of winning a cup, while this deal gives a better chance at making playoffs in the next 2-3 seasons but not really being a legitimate contender. While I would love to see them win a cup with Price and Weber the team isn't built for that right now, and I doubt Johansen changes that. The only way the team competes for a cup in Price and Weber's window is to buy aggressively using the assets that won't be ready until their window is shut, and that just means more bad teams after, and even that is a long shot. Johansen isn't a real top C, he is typically a 55-60 point C, who seems to have declined to a 50-55 point C, and might not even be that.
Your underselling useful assets for MTL in the desperate hope that Johansen is somehow going to be the answer in MTL.


Imagine this roster in MTL for next season:
Drouin- Johansen- Gally
Domi- KK- Suzuki
Lehko- Danault- Caufield
Jan. 16, 2020 at 4:11 p.m.
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Quoting: DomCholette
Imagine this roster in MTL for next season:
Drouin- Johansen- Gally
Domi- KK- Suzuki
Lehko- Danault- Caufield


Without forgeting: Armia, Byron, lkonen, Evans, Dauphin, McShane, Ylonen,... and probably one of Raymond, Stutzle, Holtz...
Jan. 17, 2020 at 3:08 a.m.
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Quoting: DomCholette
Imagine this roster in MTL for next season:
Drouin- Johansen- Gally
Domi- KK- Suzuki
Lehko- Danault- Caufield


So because Johansen might, big might, help the team make the playoffs next season they should give up a more valuable asset and add a prospect? That's the kind of desperation based thinking that gets GM's fired. Petry for Johansen 1 for 1, considering cap hits and term remaining that's fair, although since Johansen isn't the player that would make this top 9 look better than what they would have anyway if they were healthy this season I still find it doubtful he would be a target for MTL to move Petry for. And if I were NSH the RD I would want from MTL would be Weber, so that I could start mitigating the cap recapture penalties if he retires early.
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