delete this. quick.

Zero chance the rangers even think of taking that

Realistically, what do you think you are going to get for Anderson? Apart from being a former 7th overall pick, what has he done to show any value?

Feel like the rangers try to recoup some value similar to what oilers are doing with JP instead of just trading him because he demanded it yknow?

What does Byron do? Besides hold a brutal contract

I agree that his value is certainly lower than a lot of these ACGM's have shown, but IMO you don't trade a 21 year old who's got an additional year left on his ELC in exchange for Paul Friggin' Byron, who realistically doesn't fill the needs of the Rangers, and a 4th round pick.

Send Andersson to Europe, retain his rights, let him either build up value (or not). If the worst thing you're missing out on is a 4th round pick, at least you're saving the cash that you'll be burning when you buy Byron out in 2021.

I think JP was put in a terrible situation more so than not being very good. Lias Andersson hasn't done much in the AHL, let alone the NHL. He looks like he's no more than a bottom line and PK guy tops. At least so far anyways. That isn't going to recoup much value.

That does not answer my question. I don't see why the Rangers would want Byron since he's too old to be part of the long term solution for the rangers but the question is, realistically what do you think Andersson can bring back?

So the question is, Realistically what do people think he's going to get for a return? Don't read into the words, and forget the trade above, what is his value?

Not a rangers fan.. but you’d think a struggling young player back not 100% sure but maybe like pulu ho sang.. those type of guys..?

as a 21 year old theres still value in the fact he could develop, its not like hes 25 and acting this way. I cant comment on his linemates in NYR or in the AHL but yeah he wasnt dominant. He wasnt a slouch either. he obviously still needs development, im just wondering is it NYR stunting his development somehow, is it his attitude stunting his own development, or a little bit of everything.

I guess I could see Ho Sang for Andersson, that makes sense.

He's been about a point every 2 games in the AHL and has 9 points in 66 NHL games, that is hardly anything to write home about. As a Leafs fan, I've watched prospect after prospect be point a game players in the AHL and then good depth guys in the NHL. Andersson hasn't been very effective in the AHL and I think that speaks volumes, honestly it looks like a bad pick by the Rangers and at best he may develop into a bottom 6 PK guy at best. Which is valuable enough but its not really hard to find or obtain.

Right now? Someone would probably take a flyer on him for either a late 2nd or a similar prospect who also hasn't got the job done. I just can't imagine being the GM of a team that trades either him or Poolparty for a minimal return, and then either one of them figures it out and suddenly becomes a 50 pt guy.

Not a realistic return given that Ho-Sang could have been grabbed on waivers for nothing, but something along the lines of him (But someone who wasn't waived...) and a mid-round pick (4th?) maybe?

Guess it just depends on what other GM's see in him. 21 years old, good ceiling, clearly needs a change of scenery and some time to develop. I guess we also don't know the underlying issues though. Lots of guys with all the talent in the world that aren't super interested in taking the next step (See: Daniel Sprong).

but at the same time hes only 21 years old. Its not like hes about to turn 24 and cant score in the nhl. not a whole lot of players come into the league at 19-21 being super effective players. only the truly special ones really come in and produce right away. The Rangers could get a 2nd+ or a prospect and a pick. or equally high risk prospect swaps. They probably wont get anything NHL ready, or anything thats in the NHL now unless its a depth player and a pick like above. Its sort of a do you sell low on the asset or hope he can develop in the next year and elevate his game to get better return. Nothing he has done shows he can but again at only 21 years old theres a rather large unknown there.

One thing about waivers that no one really seems to understand, is that most teams are close to their limit for contracts. Sure you can pick up a guy up for free but if that puts you at 50 contracts, you now have to move out an asset to make room for someone else. That is why guys fall through waivers more often than not.

okbuddy

Oh for sure, and I get that, I just think that if you're making a deal, and the player that you're acquiring might not fit into your lineup right away, it might as well be a player on who isn't waiver eligible yet.

Sure, I sometimes wonder if Dubas has a folder filled with guys he thinks are going to work their way out of favour and can be had for essentially nothing and then perhaps rebuilt but TO's player development department that seems to be able to turn marginal guys into helpful pieces. Holl is the poster child of that, and to a lesser extend Marchment and hopefully Brazeau at some point as well.

Fair

We could get more for Scandella. Don't think Montreal would have interest in Djoos, just give us a 3rd round pick.

IF brazeau develops the kid is going to be a monster.

Its all about his skating at this point, if he becomes even an average NHL skater, he could be such a good pick up. He Cost the Leafs nothing but money that doesn't count against the cap. His shot is already the level of Elite NHL talent, he's huge at 6'7" and if Barb Underhill can do with him that she did with Goat, he could be a massive boon for the team.

the only downfall is at 6'7 its going to be hard to teach speed. especially the way those guys (watched chara for years) they need to be beyond peak physical condition in order to be as fast as some of the smaller guys. but if he can learn to skate well, youre looking at a moose on skates at forward.