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Really simple solution to cap problems

Created by: MaxDomi13
Initial Creation Date: Jan 15, 2020
Published: Jan 15 at 11:38 am
Team: 2019-20 Toronto Maple Leafs
Team Explanation
Mikheyev vs Engvall (3rd line spot)
Engvall vs Kerfoot (2LW)
Moore vs Timashov (4LW)
Holl vs Liljegren (2RD)
Kaskisuo vs vs Hutchinson (2G)
Trades
TOR
  1. 2022 7th round pick (BOS)
Anywhere
BOS
  1. Ceci, Cody
Buyouts
  • Mikhail Grabovski: $0
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Phil Kessel: $1,200,000 (15%)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
TOR
CBJ
TOR
VGK
TOR
CAR
COL
SJS
STL
WPG
2021
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
2022
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
BOS
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$79,454,643$0$470,000$2,045,357
Left WingCenterRight Wing
TOR
Hyman, Zach
$2,250,000
LW
NTC
UFA - 2
TOR
Matthews, Auston
$11,634,000
C
UFA - 5
TOR
Marner, Mitchell
$10,893,000
RW
UFA - 6
TOR
Johnsson, Andreas
$3,400,000
LW
UFA - 4
TOR
Tavares, John
$11,000,000
C
NMC
UFA - 6
TOR
Nylander, William
$6,962,366
RW, C
UFA - 5
TOR
Mikheyev, Ilya
$925,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
TOR
Kerfoot, Alexander
$3,500,000
C, LW
UFA - 4
TOR
Kapanen, Kasperi
$3,200,000
RW
RFA - 3
TOR
Timashov, Dmytro
$694,444
LW
RFA - 1
TOR
Engvall, Pierre
$925,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
TOR
Spezza, Jason
$700,000
C, RW
NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Gauthier, Frédérik
$675,000
C
RFA - 1
TOR
Moore, Trevor
$775,000
RW, LW
RFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
TOR
Rielly, Morgan
$5,000,000
LD
UFA - 3
TOR
Barrie, Tyson
$2,750,000
RD
UFA - 1
TOR
Andersen, Frederik
$5,000,000
G
NTC
UFA - 2
TOR
Muzzin, Jake
$4,000,000
LD
UFA - 1
TOR
Liljegren, Timothy
$863,333
RD
RFA - 3
TOR
Kaskisuo, Kasimir
$675,000
G
RFA - 1
TOR
Dermott, Travis
$863,333
LD
RFA - 1
TOR
Holl, Justin
$675,000
RD
UFA - 1
TOR
Sandin, Rasmus
$894,167
LD
RFA - 3
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
TOR
Horton, Nathan
$5,300,000
RW
NMC NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Clarkson, David
$5,250,000
RW
NMC NTC
UFA - 1

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Jan 15 at 11:42
#1
Joined: May 2018
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I think you'd need to give Lilly a few games first to see how he stacks up against Ceci and you'd also need assurance that they can give those PK minutes to someone else as well. If the answer is no to both, then trading Ceci may not be the answer. Yes Ceci is the weakest link on the team, yes he's overpaid, however, he's definitely an NHL player and worth a spot on the bottom pair. If he made 2 million people would say he's a good player.
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Jan 15 at 11:44
#2
Joined: Aug 2019
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No one is taking ceci unless we add. I.e. ceci and a 4th to a non playoff team with space for zilch in return. And this would be a great trade for leafs.
Jan 15 at 11:54
#3
KFTW
Joined: Jul 2018
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Who wins this deal: Jones and Anderson for Sandin and Nylander
Jan 15 at 11:55
#4
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KovalchukFor2RDP
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Posts: 2,838
Likes: 472
Quoting: csick
Who wins this deal: Jones and Anderson for Sandin and Nylander


TOR because RD sux
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Jan 15 at 12:00
#5
Joined: Feb 2017
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Is Ceci that bad? Is it a combination of play and contract? Or is he the release valve for frustrated leaf fans? We all need one
Jan 15 at 12:10
#6
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Quoting: csick
Who wins this deal: Jones and Anderson for Sandin and Nylander


Right now, its close but if you look long term I think it very well could be a slam dunk win by Columbus. Jones didn't receive top defenceman honours at the World Juniors, if my research is correct. Of course that doesn't mean Sandin is better, but what it should say is that Sandin's level of skill is extremely high and perhaps he develops into a legit #1 elite defenceman? If that is his top end ceiling, that means he could be much closer to Jone's level in the future. Now if we look at Nylander vs Anderson, the trade doesn't seem overly appealing at all.
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Jan 15 at 12:14
#7
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Quoting: masterjuddi
Is Ceci that bad? Is it a combination of play and contract? Or is he the release valve for frustrated leaf fans? We all need one


Its the usual mob mentality I think. The general population say he's terrible and that builds steam and now the mob says "He's the worst player in the world" and enough people shouting that means its true. It isn't that is stupid and people should stop paying attention to the loudest people. The reality is, yes he's overpaid, yes he's not overly effective but is he worth a roster spot? I'd say if he was making 2 million or less, maybe even 2.5 or less, there are not a lot of teams that couldn't improve with him playing #6 defenceman minutes. With him having no term, he isn't even a bad pickup. Look at Anahiem for example, why wouldn't they take a flyer on him, pick him up for very little and then sign him to a fair contract. Sure he's not very special but he'd help kill penalties and provide cheap and serviceable depth.
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Jan 15 at 12:16
#8
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Posts: 1,211
Likes: 388
Quoting: PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood
Its the usual mob mentality I think. The general population say he's terrible and that builds steam and now the mob says "He's the worst player in the world" and enough people shouting that means its true. It isn't that is stupid and people should stop paying attention to the loudest people. The reality is, yes he's overpaid, yes he's not overly effective but is he worth a roster spot? I'd say if he was making 2 million or less, maybe even 2.5 or less, there are not a lot of teams that couldn't improve with him playing #6 defenceman minutes. With him having no term, he isn't even a bad pickup. Look at Anahiem for example, why wouldn't they take a flyer on him, pick him up for very little and then sign him to a fair contract. Sure he's not very special but he'd help kill penalties and provide cheap and serviceable depth.


Makes sense. In the games Ive seen him he hasnt been bad, in fact I barely noticed him which is good for a dman. I agree that he gets paid a little too much, but at least it's just for this year. plus contending teams shouldnt be dealing away NHL dmen, unless they get one back
Jan 15 at 12:20
#9
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Quoting: masterjuddi
Makes sense. In the games Ive seen him he hasnt been bad, in fact I barely noticed him which is good for a dman. I agree that he gets paid a little too much, but at least it's just for this year. plus contending teams shouldnt be dealing away NHL dmen, unless they get one back


Yeah, I've said it for the whole season, unless we have some other fair deal for a depth RHD, keeping Ceci is the best course of action. If lets say they get a better RHD for Johnsson, then you move Ceci elsewhere to save cap space. But we will have to see where a move like that can be made. I have my doubts that anything will happen.
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Jan 15 at 12:43
#10
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Quoting: masterjuddi
Makes sense. In the games Ive seen him he hasnt been bad, in fact I barely noticed him which is good for a dman. I agree that he gets paid a little too much, but at least it's just for this year. plus contending teams shouldnt be dealing away NHL dmen, unless they get one back


This rational take based on fact and common sense has NO PLACE in a forum for discussion on Cody Ceci.

The big problem is he's overpaid, if he made half what he makes Leaf fans would have less hate towards him. This is also a fan base who still can't decide how it feels about William Nylander, so let's not ask for miracles.
Jan 15 at 1:52
#11
Thread Starter
KovalchukFor2RDP
Joined: Feb 2019
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Quoting: masterjuddi
Is Ceci that bad? Is it a combination of play and contract? Or is he the release valve for frustrated leaf fans? We all need one


Just leafs fans moving him for cap space
 
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