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Ryan Strome

Initial Creation Date: Jan 15, 2020
Published: Jan 15 at 12:54 pm
Team: 2019-20 Dallas Stars
Trades
DAL
  1. 2020 2nd round pick (FLA)
  2. 2020 3rd round pick (COL)
FLA
  1. Faksa, Radek
  2. Perry, Corey
  3. Tufte, Riley
DAL
  1. Strome, Ryan
NYR
  1. 2020 1st round pick (DAL)
Buyouts
  • Valeri Nichushkin: $700,000
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
FLA
COL
DAL
DAL
DAL
2021
DAL
DAL
DAL
DAL
DAL
DAL
DAL
2022
DAL
DAL
DAL
DAL
DAL
DAL
DAL
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
21$81,500,000$73,724,165$932,500$3,850,000$7,775,835
Left WingCenterRight Wing
DAL
Benn, Jamie
$9,500,000
LW
NMC
UFA - 6
DAL
Seguin, Tyler
$9,850,000
C, RW
NMC
UFA - 8
DAL
Pavelski, Joe
$7,000,000
RW, C
NMC
UFA - 3
DAL
Janmark, Mattias
$2,300,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
NYR
Strome, Ryan
$3,100,000
C, RW
RFA - 1
DAL
Radulov, Alexander
$6,250,000
RW
NMC
UFA - 3
DAL
Gurianov, Denis
$894,166
LW
RFA - 1
DAL
Hintz, Roope
$811,667
C, LW
RFA - 1
DAL
Comeau, Blake
$2,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
DAL
Cogliano, Andrew
$3,250,000
LW, RW, C
NTC
UFA - 2
DAL
Dickinson, Jason
$1,500,000
C
RFA - 2
DAL
Dowling, Justin
$750,000
C
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
DAL
Heiskanen, Miro
$894,166
LD
RFA - 2
DAL
Klingberg, John
$4,250,000
RD
UFA - 3
DAL
Bishop, Ben
$4,916,666
G
NMC
UFA - 4
DAL
Lindell, Esa
$5,800,000
LD
UFA - 6
DAL
Polák, Roman
$1,750,000
RD
UFA - 1
DAL
Khudobin, Anton
$2,500,000
G
UFA - 1
DAL
Oleksiak, Jamie
$2,137,500
LD
UFA - 2
DAL
Fedun, Taylor
$737,500
RD
UFA - 2
DAL
Sekera, Andrej
$1,500,000
LD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
DAL
Hanzal, Martin
$4,750,000
C
NTC
UFA - 1
DAL
Johns, Stephen
$2,350,000
RD
UFA - 2

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Jan 15 at 12:56
#1
Joined: May 2019
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I haven't really thought about it, but Strome in DAL makes a lot of sense. They need a 2C that can push offense. Just have to hope he can do it away from Panarin
Jan 15 at 1:00
#2
Joined: Jul 2017
Posts: 920
Likes: 150
They will not pay a first for Strome and sacrifice all their picks in the first three rounds of this year's draft, and they are not going to move on from Faksa either. I can see them moving perry for a conditional pick, but I think if DAL is trading for Strome, they are giving up prospects.
Jan 15 at 1:00
#3
Joined: Oct 2016
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Quoting: villenash
I haven't really thought about it, but Strome in DAL makes a lot of sense. They need a 2C that can push offense. Just have to hope he can do it away from Panarin


I have serious doubts if he can, he never has before save for his second season
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Jan 15 at 1:13
#4
Joined: Dec 2018
Posts: 188
Likes: 62
Quoting: rja
They will not pay a first for Strome and sacrifice all their picks in the first three rounds of this year's draft, and they are not going to move on from Faksa either. I can see them moving perry for a conditional pick, but I think if DAL is trading for Strome, they are giving up prospects.


Dallas will not be giving up a first, i agree. A first also does not get it done, simply because he gels so well with Panarin.
Jan 15 at 1:15
#5
Joined: Jul 2017
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Quoting: NYR_Mike
Dallas will not be giving up a first, i agree. A first also does not get it done, simply because he gels so well with Panarin.


Meaning teams will not be willing to pay a 1st rounder for him? Or that it will cost even more than a first? I would argue the former.
Jan 15 at 1:20
#6
Joined: Dec 2018
Posts: 188
Likes: 62
Quoting: rja
Meaning teams will not be willing to pay a 1st rounder for him? Or that it will cost even more than a first? I would argue the former.


It would cost more than a first. Low cap hit and he is a RFA so you will have control of him for at least one more year.
Jan 15 at 1:29
#7
Joined: May 2017
Posts: 963
Likes: 180
Quoting: NYR_Mike
Dallas will not be giving up a first, i agree. A first also does not get it done, simply because he gels so well with Panarin.


If the Rangers turn down a 2020 1st for Ryan Strome, who they got for the corpse of Ryan Spooner, Gorton should be flogged down 7th avenue before immediately being fired. TURN DOWN A 1st for Ryan Strome? are you high???
Jan 15 at 1:30
#8
#LeafsFever
Joined: May 2017
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Maybe if Dallas got this done quickly, NYR would only require a 1st rounder, but I doubt it. I would say it's probably going to take a prospect and a 1st to get Strome, even at present. Strome is playing out of his mind and you can bet the Rangers will want to cash in on that hard. Although it would make little sense, I could see a team like the Habs getting super desperate for offense and giving up a really good prospect like Ryan Poehling and a 1st for Strome, if they held onto him until deadline day. Funnier yet, I could see the Oilers pushing to bring him back as they could become very desperate for secondary scoring in their push to solidify a playoff spot. Bottom line, I think the Rangers could do significantly better than a 1st.
Jan 15 at 1:33
#9
Joined: Dec 2018
Posts: 188
Likes: 62
Quoting: BSpadaro83
If the Rangers turn down a 2020 1st for Ryan Strome, who they got for the corpse of Ryan Spooner, Gorton should be flogged down 7th avenue before immediately being fired. TURN DOWN A 1st for Ryan Strome? are you high???


ARE YOU HIGH!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! You are only going to require a first rounder for a center that is on pace for a 75 point season?!? you clearly do not watch hockey or have any understanding of what a 75 point center would cost at the deadline.

Kevin Hayes got a first rounder and Lemeiux who only had ~50 points last season. You should be banned from this site.
Jan 15 at 1:45
#10
Tspky
Joined: Feb 2016
Posts: 2,900
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Quoting: BSpadaro83
If the Rangers turn down a 2020 1st for Ryan Strome, who they got for the corpse of Ryan Spooner, Gorton should be flogged down 7th avenue before immediately being fired. TURN DOWN A 1st for Ryan Strome? are you high???


here is the thing-- as much as playing with Panarin has helped Strome, Panarin is on pace for 35 more points playing with Strome. Is a 1st round pick enough to ruin that chemistry?

Strome is a RFA at the end of this year which will only increase his value (even at the deadline). There are many teams that will give a 70 point center a 5m contract in the offseason (yes even if the 70 points was with panarin). The offer sheet compensation for that is a 1st and 3rd round pick-- so that would be the starting point.
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Jan 15 at 1:58
#11
AJC13
Joined: Oct 2018
Posts: 713
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Quoting: BSpadaro83
If the Rangers turn down a 2020 1st for Ryan Strome, who they got for the corpse of Ryan Spooner, Gorton should be flogged down 7th avenue before immediately being fired. TURN DOWN A 1st for Ryan Strome? are you high???


The other day I looked up the stats for Ryan Spooner and it's shocking how he completely lost his talent. Don't be too surprised if down the road he figures things out in the KHL, makes an NHL comeback, and wins comeback player of the year. I wonder if Spooner got lazy and didn't train hard one off season, then could never get his game back. Maybe he got into some bad habits on the ice and forgot what he did well in order to succeed? Maybe off the ice stuff or personal problems away from the game? Look up his stats, his game should not have fallen off like it did.
Jan 15 at 4:18
#12
Joined: Jul 2017
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Quoting: NYR_Mike
It would cost more than a first. Low cap hit and he is a RFA so you will have control of him for at least one more year.


Oh I would think teams see Strome's success as an anomaly considering he plays with Panarin. Also, because he is 26, he only needs to arbitrate for one year and then will walk into UFA the following offseason, which lowers his value at least a little. If NYR were to deal him, I would expect something similar to the Zuc return, although maybe not exactly the same conditions.
Jan 15 at 4:21
#13
Joined: Jul 2017
Posts: 920
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Quoting: NYR_Mike
ARE YOU HIGH!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! You are only going to require a first rounder for a center that is on pace for a 75 point season?!? you clearly do not watch hockey or have any understanding of what a 75 point center would cost at the deadline.

Kevin Hayes got a first rounder and Lemeiux who only had ~50 points last season. You should be banned from this site.


That's sort of the point, though, isn't it? Strome is going to command a substantial amount of money, money that NYR may not be able to give him. And if the parties are unable to agree, they go to arbitration, where the arbitrator will award Strome a 1 year contract, and Strome will walk into UFA the following offseason. Strome is also playing with Panarin, which naturally inflates his statistics. One could argue that they can find a cheap center to match Strome's production. And last, it is uncertain whether Strome can continue this production going forward. A first rounder in an upcoming deep draft would be a great return for an asset you will not have so much control over in the near future. I think that's where they're coming from.
Jan 15 at 4:26
#14
Joined: Dec 2018
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Quoting: rja
That's sort of the point, though, isn't it? Strome is going to command a substantial amount of money, money that NYR may not be able to give him. And if the parties are unable to agree, they go to arbitration, where the arbitrator will award Strome a 1 year contract, and Strome will walk into UFA the following offseason. Strome is also playing with Panarin, which naturally inflates his statistics. One could argue that they can find a cheap center to match Strome's production. And last, it is uncertain whether Strome can continue this production going forward. A first rounder in an upcoming deep draft would be a great return for an asset you will not have so much control over in the near future. I think that's where they're coming from.


I would rather not break him and panarin up though, I agree with you that maybe they would be able to find a cheaper person to play with panarin or even have someone like Chytil get a chance to play with him. But I would not take the chance and mess up a good thing.

Additionally we have around ~19 million dollars coming off the books next year(Hank, Smith,Staal). We could sign him long term once those contracts are up.
Jan 15 at 4:44
#15
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Quoting: NYR_Mike
I would rather not break him and panarin up though, I agree with you that maybe they would be able to find a cheaper person to play with panarin or even have someone like Chytil get a chance to play with him. But I would not take the chance and mess up a good thing.

Additionally we have around ~19 million dollars coming off the books next year(Hank, Smith,Staal). We could sign him long term once those contracts are up.


But then you possibly have to sign Deangelo at some point (or maybe you trade him); the kids coming off ELCs later on; etc. I was just making the others' point to trade him. I would actually move on from Strome, because I believe anyone can play with Panarin and exceed expectations. Look at Anisimov's stats while playing with Panarin (https://www.hockey-reference.com/players/a/anisiar01.html) as a mere example. If NYR were looking to contend now and in the next year, then maybe keeping Strome would make a lot of sense. If you are still trying to finish up the rebuild, trading Kreider and Strome for assets that will help you contend in the future might be a better option. I think NYR need another year before they can consider themselves contenders, so a trade is not out of the question. Who knows, maybe Strome enters UFA next offseason and comes back?
Jan 16 at 9:41
#16
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Quoting: NYR_Mike
I would rather not break him and panarin up though, I agree with you that maybe they would be able to find a cheaper person to play with panarin or even have someone like Chytil get a chance to play with him. But I would not take the chance and mess up a good thing.

Additionally we have around ~19 million dollars coming off the books next year(Hank, Smith,Staal). We could sign him long term once those contracts are up.


Hopefully you can see this, but here's advanced stats showing Strome's production drops off without Panarin.

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