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Nylander bros and a dman your thoughts

Created by: YoungGM
Initial Creation Date: Jan 15, 2020
Published: Jan 15 at 1:44 pm
Team: 2019-20 Toronto Maple Leafs
Trades
TOR
  1. Gustafsson, Erik
  2. Nylander, Alexander
  3. 2022 3rd round pick (CHI)
  4. 2021 5th round pick (CHI)
CHI
  1. Bracco, Jeremy
  2. Timashov, Dmytro
  3. Ceci, Cody
  4. Kivihalme, Teemu
  5. Hollowell, Mac
  6. 2021 2nd round pick (TOR)
  7. 2022 2nd round pick (TOR)
Buyouts
  • Mikhail Grabovski: $0
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Phil Kessel: $1,200,000 (15%)
  • Robin Lehner: $1,100,000 (22%)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
TOR
CBJ
TOR
VGK
TOR
CAR
COL
SJS
STL
WPG
2021
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
CHI
TOR
TOR
2022
TOR
TOR
CHI
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$80,725,199$0$982,500$774,801

Roster

Left WingCenterRight Wing
TOR
Hyman, Zach
$2,250,000
LW
NTC
UFA - 2
TOR
Matthews, Auston
$11,634,000
C
UFA - 5
TOR
Marner, Mitchell
$10,893,000
RW
UFA - 6
CHI
Nylander, Alexander
$863,333
RW, LW
RFA - 2
TOR
Tavares, John
$11,000,000
C
NMC
UFA - 6
TOR
Nylander, William
$6,962,366
RW, C
UFA - 5
TOR
Johnsson, Andreas
$3,400,000
LW
UFA - 4
TOR
Kerfoot, Alexander
$3,500,000
C, LW
UFA - 4
TOR
Kapanen, Kasperi
$3,200,000
RW
RFA - 3
TOR
Engvall, Pierre
$925,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
TOR
Gauthier, Frédérik
$675,000
C
RFA - 1
TOR
Moore, Trevor
$775,000
RW, LW
RFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
TOR
Rielly, Morgan
$5,000,000
LD
UFA - 3
TOR
Barrie, Tyson
$2,750,000
RD
UFA - 1
TOR
Andersen, Frederik
$5,000,000
G
NTC
UFA - 2
TOR
Muzzin, Jake
$4,000,000
LD
UFA - 1
TOR
Holl, Justin
$675,000
RD
UFA - 1
TOR
Hutchinson, Michael
$700,000
G
UFA - 1
CHI
Gustafsson, Erik
$1,200,000
LD
UFA - 1
TOR
Dermott, Travis
$863,333
LD
RFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
TOR
Marincin, Martin
$700,000
LD
UFA - 1
TOR
Horton, Nathan
$5,300,000
RW
NMC NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Spezza, Jason
$700,000
C, RW
NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Clarkson, David
$5,250,000
RW
NMC NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Brooks, Adam
$759,167
C
RFA - 1
TOR
Mikheyev, Ilya
$925,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1

Special Teams

Power Play 1
Tavares, J.
Nylander, W.
Matthews, A.
Marner, M.
Barrie, T.
Power Play 2
Kapanen, K.
Kerfoot, A.
Johnsson, A.
Nylander, A.
Rielly, M.
Penalty Kill 1
Hyman, Z.
Moore, T.
Muzzin, J.
Gustafsson, E.
Penalty Kill 2
Gauthier, F.
Engvall, P.
Rielly, M.
Holl, J.

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Jan 15 at 1:46
#1
Let's Go Rangers!
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Toronto doesn't need anther D-man bad at defending
Jan 15 at 1:52
#2
The CEO of reported
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Chicago says hell yes
Jan 15 at 1:56
#3
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Quoting: Dach
Chicago says hell yes


Doubtful, I bet they can't take on that many contracts.
Jan 15 at 1:57
#4
Bowman Sucks
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Nothing coming back impresses ne too much, but I’ll be the first to admit I didn’t look up the prospects.

I still believe in Nylander and in my personal opinion he is off the table.

If you want Gus a 2nd and a 4th plus Ceci should be fine,
Jan 15 at 2:06
#5
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Quoting: Stan_Bowman
Nothing coming back impresses ne too much, but I’ll be the first to admit I didn’t look up the prospects.

I still believe in Nylander and in my personal opinion he is off the table.

If you want Gus a 2nd and a 4th plus Ceci should be fine,


Ceci isn't garbage and he's far more valuable to TO this season than Gus would be. Gus will be a target for teams with no LHD depth and could use a PP QB, beyond that, he doesn't have much value. With TO's depth on the left side, Marincin is a far better option than Gus. I know that seems wild to think about but despite Marincin's faults, he is a terrific penalty killer, that is something TO needs more than offense. Especially considering, Dermott, Rielly, Muzzin and Sandin are significantly better than Gus.
Jan 15 at 2:15
#6
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Quoting: PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood
Ceci isn't garbage and he's far more valuable to TO this season than Gus would be. Gus will be a target for teams with no LHD depth and could use a PP QB, beyond that, he doesn't have much value. With TO's depth on the left side, Marincin is a far better option than Gus. I know that seems wild to think about but despite Marincin's faults, he is a terrific penalty killer, that is something TO needs more than offense. Especially considering, Dermott, Rielly, Muzzin and Sandin are significantly better than Gus.


I understand and 100% agree with all the pints you made; however, I am a leaf fan of the mind that nothing we do this season in trade will make a big enough difference to change our lack of defensive defencemen talent. I am off the mindset that TOR does one thing better then anyone else & that’s kill people with offence. It may not be pretty but it’s worked and been fully embraced by Keefe. I have no problem getting guys like Gustafson. We need real NHL talent when everyone is healthy. No offence to the bottom pair we have now in TOR but in 90% of teams in the NHL they are either in the AHL or are a 7th man that plays 10-20 games a year
Jan 15 at 2:21
#7
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Quoting: DocArin0
I understand and 100% agree with all the pints you made; however, I am a leaf fan of the mind that nothing we do this season in trade will make a big enough difference to change our lack of defensive defencemen talent. I am off the mindset that TOR does one thing better then anyone else & that’s kill people with offence. It may not be pretty but it’s worked and been fully embraced by Keefe. I have no problem getting guys like Gustafson. We need real NHL talent when everyone is healthy. No offence to the bottom pair we have now in TOR but in 90% of teams in the NHL they are either in the AHL or are a 7th man that plays 10-20 games a year


TO is going to outscore teams more often than not at 5v5 even with the lineup they have now. Muzzin is back next week, and that will probably mean Sandin gets sent down. I would take Muzzin, Dermott and Marincin (a defensive defenceman, although not the greatest but fine in a pinch) over Gus all year long. I'd take Sandin over Gus forever, where would he fit? Why would it ever be worthwhile to get him for him to be #6 on our depthchart for only LHD. Marincin is a good depth guy to have and honestly with how many minutes the 4th line gets some games, I'd rather run 7 defenceman and keep Marincin in the lineup to kill penalties. He's extremely good at that.
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Jan 15 at 2:31
#8
Bowman Sucks
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Quoting: PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood
Ceci isn't garbage and he's far more valuable to TO this season than Gus would be. Gus will be a target for teams with no LHD depth and could use a PP QB, beyond that, he doesn't have much value. With TO's depth on the left side, Marincin is a far better option than Gus. I know that seems wild to think about but despite Marincin's faults, he is a terrific penalty killer, that is something TO needs more than offense. Especially considering, Dermott, Rielly, Muzzin and Sandin are significantly better than Gus.


Like I said, Nylander is off the table. If you guys want Gus it can be done for a 2nd and a 4th. Ceci or not makes no difference to me.
Jan 15 at 2:49
#9
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Quoting: Stan_Bowman
Like I said, Nylander is off the table. If you guys want Gus it can be done for a 2nd and a 4th. Ceci or not makes no difference to me.


I would hold onto Nylander as well, I am not sure he'll ever amount to much but its worth the gamble, especially since you gave up so much to get him. As for Gus, I can't fathom any reason why TO would want him. He doesn't offer anything that TO needs, the number of left handed defenceman on TO that are better or more usefull in regards to team needs is a long list.
Jan 15 at 4:29
#10
Bowman Sucks
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Quoting: PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood
I would hold onto Nylander as well, I am not sure he'll ever amount to much but its worth the gamble, especially since you gave up so much to get him. As for Gus, I can't fathom any reason why TO would want him. He doesn't offer anything that TO needs, the number of left handed defenceman on TO that are better or more usefull in regards to team needs is a long list.


I am alone in the Chicago fan base, but I really do think he is going to turn out well. He is frustrating, but when he plays well he is too tantalizing to give up on.
Jan 15 at 4:38
#11
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Quoting: Stan_Bowman
I am alone in the Chicago fan base, but I really do think he is going to turn out well. He is frustrating, but when he plays well he is too tantalizing to give up on.


Reminds me of his brother, Willy should be absolutely dominant but at times just doesn't have the drive that would turn him from a borderline elite player into an absolute beast. When Willy is on, he's so fast, so elusive, so strong on the puck and just scary good offensively. Unfortunately that isn't always the case, hopefully they both figure out how to turn it on and keep it on.
 
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