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Trading within the division

Created by: csick
Initial Creation Date: Jan 16, 2020
Published: Jan 16 at 2:41 pm
Team: 2019-20 Colorado Avalanche
Trades
COL
  1. Turris, Kyle
  2. Allard, Frédéric
NSH
  1. Johnson, Erik
  2. Wilson, Colin
  3. 2020 4th round pick (COL)
COL
  1. Lundqvist, Henrik ($2,000,000 retained)
NYR
  1. Cole, Ian
  2. Bowers, Shane
  3. 2021 2nd round pick (COL)
Additional Details:
Becomes a 1st if Colorado make the finals in 2020 or 2021
COL
  1. Vatanen, Sami
NJD
  1. Francouz, Pavel
  2. Greer, AJ
Buyouts
  • Brooks Orpik: $1,500,000
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Tyson Barrie: $2,750,000 (50%)
Buried
  • Kevin Connauton: $300,000 ($1,375,000)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
COL
TOR
COL
FLA
COL
2021
COL
COL
COL
COL
COL
COL
2022
COL
COL
COL
COL
COL
COL
COL
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
22$81,500,000$77,634,761$0$3,532,500$3,865,239
Left WingCenterRight Wing
COL
Landeskog, Gabriel
$5,571,429
LW
NTC
UFA - 2
COL
MacKinnon, Nathan
$6,300,000
C, RW
UFA - 4
COL
Rantanen, Mikko
$9,250,000
RW
UFA - 6
COL
Burakovsky, André
$3,250,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
COL
Kadri, Nazem
$4,500,000
C
NTC
UFA - 3
COL
Donskoi, Joonas
$3,900,000
RW
UFA - 4
COL
Jost, Tyson
$885,833
C, LW, RW
RFA - 1
NSH
Turris, Kyle
$6,000,000
C
UFA - 5
COL
Compher, J.T.
$3,500,000
RW, C
UFA - 4
COL
Calvert, Matt
$2,850,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
COL
Bellemare, Pierre-Édouard
$1,800,000
LW, C
UFA - 2
COL
Nieto, Matt
$1,975,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
COL
Girard, Samuel
$728,333
LD
UFA - 1
COL
Makar, Cale
$880,833
RD
RFA - 2
NYR
Lundqvist, Henrik
$6,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 2
COL
Zadorov, Nikita
$3,200,000
LD
RFA - 1
NJD
Vatanen, Sami
$4,875,000
LD
UFA - 1
COL
Grubauer, Philipp
$3,333,333
G
UFA - 2
COL
Barberio, Mark
$1,450,000
LD
UFA - 1
COL
Graves, Ryan
$735,000
LD
RFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
COL
Nichushkin, Valeri
$850,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
COL
Kamenev, Vladislav
$750,000
C
RFA - 1

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Jan 16 at 2:42
#1
KovalchukFor2RDP
Joined: Feb 2019
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YES IT'S THAT 1D LINE THAT I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR
Jan 16 at 2:45
#2
Avs_fan437
Joined: Jan 2020
Posts: 82
Likes: 8
the new york ranger one the avalanche dont want Henrik
Jan 16 at 2:46
#3
Joined: May 2017
Posts: 1,976
Likes: 432
Goodness, why on earth would you trade a bad expiring contract for a bad 5 year contract, erik johnson is far superior to mark barberio, I'm not sure that this team is better, and you're helping nashville gain more cap space to get better with
Jan 16 at 3:05
#4
Dr.
Joined: May 2019
Posts: 685
Likes: 188
Yeah doesn't seem worth it for 5 years of 6 mil for a 3C, who is underperforming right now. I would also rather have johnson than barbs in the lineup. I under stand going after vatenan for another RHD for playoffs, i think this is way too much change though for over halfway through the season
Jan 16 at 4:00
#5
Joined: Jun 2017
Posts: 330
Likes: 87
Quoting: JeffW
Goodness, why on earth would you trade a bad expiring contract for a bad 5 year contract, erik johnson is far superior to mark barberio, I'm not sure that this team is better, and you're helping nashville gain more cap space to get better with


How is NSH gaining cap space here? Johnson's cap hit is equal to Turris', and the Preds are taking on Wilson's salary (which would hamper their ability to improve at the deadline, if they're in a playoff spot then). I'd rather have Turris than Johnson, and Allard over the 4th. Preds pass.
Jan 16 at 4:47
#6
Joined: May 2017
Posts: 1,976
Likes: 432
Quoting: gmgb
How is NSH gaining cap space here? Johnson's cap hit is equal to Turris', and the Preds are taking on Wilson's salary (which would hamper their ability to improve at the deadline, if they're in a playoff spot then). I'd rather have Turris than Johnson, and Allard over the 4th. Preds pass.


Next year you lose Wilson's 2.6 and hamhuis 1.5, which saves you 4 mill.

Instead of losing hamhuis 1.5 but now having to replace that slot either with vet another dman or elc between 700-925k which only saves you about 600-800k
Jan 16 at 5:05
#7
Joined: Jun 2017
Posts: 330
Likes: 87
Quoting: JeffW
Next year you lose Wilson's 2.6 and hamhuis 1.5, which saves you 4 mill.

Instead of losing hamhuis 1.5 but now having to replace that slot either with vet another dman or elc between 700-925k which only saves you about 600-800k


We save Wilson's 2.6 by not taking him on in the first place. And if we keep Allard, we can replace Hamhuis for less than half the cost, next season. Paying Johnson $6M to play 3rd pair next year, then praying Seattle takes him (which seems unlikely - the Preds will have to expose better players than Johnson) doesn't make any sense.
Jan 16 at 5:16
#8
Joined: May 2017
Posts: 1,976
Likes: 432
Quoting: gmgb
We save Wilson's 2.6 by not taking him on in the first place. And if we keep Allard, we can replace Hamhuis for less than half the cost, next season. Paying Johnson $6M to play 3rd pair next year, then praying Seattle takes him (which seems unlikely - the Preds will have to expose better players than Johnson) doesn't make any sense.


Yes that's correct, but thats not the trade, you could also save money by not signing anyone..

If you dont take wilson and johnson then you have to keep turris for 5 years...

Do you understand what I'm trying to say? I'm not talking about this season
Jan 16 at 5:46
#9
Joined: Jun 2017
Posts: 330
Likes: 87
Quoting: JeffW
Yes that's correct, but thats not the trade, you could also save money by not signing anyone..

If you dont take wilson and johnson then you have to keep turris for 5 years...

Do you understand what I'm trying to say? I'm not talking about this season


Turris is better than Johnson (couple years younger too). I'd rather have Turris than EJ.

Allard is close to NHL ready, if he's not there already. I'd rather have Allard than a 4th.

NSH doesn't have a spot for Wilson, and his cap hit would cause problems, if the Preds are deadline buyers. I wouldn't want him at all.

Turris and Allard have more to offer than Johnson - not just now, but going forward. Do you understand a trade has to provide value of some sort for both teams?
Jan 17 at 7:03
#10
Joined: May 2017
Posts: 1,976
Likes: 432
Quoting: gmgb
Turris is better than Johnson (couple years younger too). I'd rather have Turris than EJ.

Allard is close to NHL ready, if he's not there already. I'd rather have Allard than a 4th.

NSH doesn't have a spot for Wilson, and his cap hit would cause problems, if the Preds are deadline buyers. I wouldn't want him at all.

Turris and Allard have more to offer than Johnson - not just now, but going forward. Do you understand a trade has to provide value of some sort for both teams?


You're arguing with me about how you also wouldnt do this trade but the argument is for a different reason, i also said I wouldn't do this..

Even though I disagree with some of your reasoning, let's just say this isnt a doable trade
Jan 17 at 7:03
#11
Joined: May 2017
Posts: 1,976
Likes: 432
Quoting: gmgb
Turris is better than Johnson (couple years younger too). I'd rather have Turris than EJ.

Allard is close to NHL ready, if he's not there already. I'd rather have Allard than a 4th.

NSH doesn't have a spot for Wilson, and his cap hit would cause problems, if the Preds are deadline buyers. I wouldn't want him at all.

Turris and Allard have more to offer than Johnson - not just now, but going forward. Do you understand a trade has to provide value of some sort for both teams?


You're arguing with me about how you also wouldnt do this trade but the argument is for a different reason, i also said I wouldn't do this..

Even though I disagree with some of your reasoning, let's just say this isnt a doable trade
 
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