I think the pens are in no position to take on a guy just for the purpose of buying him out. That is a really bad idea. The return would have to be astronomical. And this is far from that.

It's even worse to mismanage funds in a cap structured league. Grossly overpaid many players.

I think that return is pretty astronomical

You can’t seriously think the Sharks will give you Meier easily like that. Try giving up what Arizona gave to get Hall.

Did you actually call that realistic? We trade one dump and two great players for two dumps and a bad pick. Take out Meier and Bjug and maybe

Yeah. McCann at 3.5 isn't too bad but he really is nothing more than Rust/Tanev but can play C. MP, really good 2nd pairing, can't pay him more than Dumo. Riko I can live with, Jarry unless a Cup run gets a 2-2.5 show me. Labanc may just be Labanc (rupt) gambling on himself off of last year. Then there is Simon....I'm sorry, screw "metrics" but unless this guy is working the turnstyles before the game and sweeping up after, I have no Idea why he is in the NHL.

Martin Jones:.....no thanks.

Besides Jarry getting 4 million after one good season, who is overpaid?

McCann will be putting up ~50 points and ~25 goals. That number should grow as he plays on Crosby's wing for the second half of the season.

Simon should be around ~40 points this year playing on Crosby's wing. Conor Sheary ended up over 3 million for being a passenger on Sid's line.

Marcus Pettersson is better than Rasmus Andersson by pretty much every metric and that guy got ~4.5, long term.

"Grossly overpaid". Sounds like you don't have very good grasp on contract values and also completely ignored the point of the post.

Ah another person that doesn't understand that Simon at the very least is a decent NHL player. Like even if he doesn't score and you ignore "metrics". This is a stupid take. Flawed player but wins puck battles, is in position defensively, and makes great passes. Crosby likes him on his line. He probably has a better idea than you do.

And yes, you can play MP more than Dumoulin since this contract would be singed a few years later and the comparable contract for Rasmus Andersson is higher despite Andersson being worse. He also produces more offense than Dumoulin which gets players paid.

Why does just about every OP get so upset and have to sling insults when their AGMs get questioned. It's not that serious dude, jeez. You do know we can both disagree with one another and still be cordial at the same time right?

My point is that you have given out contracts based on very little. When these players are under RFA status, the team has the control. In the cap era, you don't want to hand out money like that and handicap yourself for future deals.

For instance. If you were a bit more conservative with payments and could cut 250k-500k per player, you would have saved roughly 1.75m-3.5m. That is a nice chunk of money to have lying around in case of emergency, improving the team through free agency or if by chance a nice trade offer gets laid upon your doorstep.

Then you are crippling the team by having 2.875m still count towards the salary cap by acquiring Jones and then buying him out. So essentially you are paying Jarry 6.875m per year till the buyout is off the books. No matter what the point of your AGM is, it's undeniably terrible asset management and financially irresponsible. There's not even an argument in that respect.

I wasn't questioning the skill set of the free agents. I'm merely pointing out what I mentioned above about the economic side of running a team.

I must disagree about Simon. He may not light the lamp much but he does all the small things well and isn't an anchor to his line mates no matter what line he's on and/or who he plays with. He plays a smart game and has speed. He is an above average skater and passer and is defensively sound for a forward. He battles hard and has enough versatility to move up and down the lineup. I wouldn't pay him more than 1.5m but that is just my opinion.

I must disagree about Simon. He may not light the lamp much but he does all the small things well and isn't an anchor to his line mates no matter what line he's on and/or who he plays with. He plays a smart game and has speed. He is an above average skater and passer and is defensively sound for a forward. He battles hard and has enough versatility to move up and down the lineup. Sorry about the double quote. Not sure why it does that.

That is all speculative. You can't accurately predict what kind of numbers or success a player is going to have. You should know that as you have mentioned "metrics" multiple times in your arguments with others. There are too many factors to consider and any one of those could negate your assumptions. Saying what you said though, yes, they could very well produce that and that's when you should pay accordingly. You pay based off past accomplishments not what you hope they will do. For arguments sake, a right handed puck moving defenseman is more coveted than the left handed counterpart so that is a factor in Andersson's inflated contract.

Well, it's obvious speculative. That's the point, buddy. You acting like these are massive overpayments is pretty silly.