Hellllo Dumba how are ya

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Created by: PuckinLeafs

Team: 2019-20 Toronto Maple Leafs

Initial Creation Date: Jan. 17, 2020

Published: Jan. 17, 2020

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

Smell ya later Barrie

Trades

TOR

Dumba, Matt ($2,000,000 retained)

MIN

Buyouts

Mikhail Grabovski: $0

Retained Salary Transactions

Phil Kessel: $1,200,000 (15%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2020
2021
2022

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
27	$81,500,000	$93,838,810	$0	$602,500	-$12,338,810

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
	Matthews, Auston $11,634,000$11,634,000 C UFA - 5	Marner, Mitchell $10,893,000$10,893,000 RW UFA - 6
Hyman, Zach $2,250,000$2,250,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 2	Tavares, John $11,000,000$11,000,000 C, LW NMC UFA - 6	Nylander, William $6,962,366$6,962,366 RW UFA - 5
Mikheyev, Ilya $925,000$925,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Kerfoot, Alexander $3,500,000$3,500,000 LW, C, RW UFA - 4	Horton, Nathan $5,300,000$5,300,000 RW M-NTC, NMC UFA - 1
Engvall, Pierre $925,000$925,000 RW, LW UFA - 1	Brooks, Adam $759,167$759,167 ($132,500$132K) C UFA - 1	Clarkson, David $5,250,000$5,250,000 RW M-NTC, NMC UFA - 1
Timashov, Dmytro $694,444$694,444 ($70,000$70K) LW UFA - 1	Spezza, Jason $700,000$700,000 C, RW NTC UFA - 1	Kapanen, Kasperi $3,200,000$3,200,000 RW UFA - 3
	Gauthier, Frédérik $675,000$675,000 C UFA - 1	Moore, Trevor $775,000$775,000 LW, RW UFA - 2

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Rielly, Morgan $5,000,000$5,000,000 LD UFA - 3	Ceci, Cody $4,500,000$4,500,000 RD UFA - 1	Andersen, Frederik $5,000,000$5,000,000 G M-NTC UFA - 2
Muzzin, Jake $4,000,000$4,000,000 LD UFA - 1		Hutchinson, Michael $700,000$700,000 G UFA - 1
Sandin, Rasmus $894,167$894,167 LD UFA - 3	Liljegren, Timothy $863,333$863,333 ($400,000$400K) RD RFA - 3
Dermott, Travis $863,333$863,333 LD/RD UFA - 1	Holl, Justin $675,000$675,000 RD UFA - 1
Marincin, Martin $700,000$700,000 LD UFA - 1
Dumba, Matt $4,000,000$4,000,000 RD UFA - 4

Jan. 17, 2020 at 10:45 a.m.

PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood

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Yeah this is something I think most Leaf fans could get behind.

Jan. 17, 2020 at 10:47 a.m.

jacobzentner

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Im curious why Minni would do that? Even without retention, he is a top 4 defenseman. Bracco is a potential top nine forward and AJ is currently a top 9 forward. Barrie holds little value to Minny without an extension.

Jan. 17, 2020 at 10:49 a.m.

PuckinLeafs

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Quoting: jacobzentner

Dreger said Minny's trade bait list could include Dumba, why I did this.

Jan. 17, 2020 at 10:50 a.m.

jacobzentner

Jacob Zentner

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Quoting: PuckinLeafs

Dreger said Minny's trade bait list could include Dumba, why I did this.

Ok, imo, if toronto wants Dumba they will have to give up more, especially with retention

Jan. 17, 2020 at 10:51 a.m.

kscoop

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Bill Guerin isn't trading Dumba to the Leafs without Dubas sending Nylander the other way.

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Jan. 17, 2020 at 10:52 a.m.

PuckinLeafs

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Quoting: jacobzentner

Ok, imo, if toronto wants Dumba they will have to give up more, especially with retention

you are right, i just want this to happen.

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Jan. 17, 2020 at 10:55 a.m.

TanSor

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If we trade Dumba it won't be for something like this. My guess is the ask would be Nylander. Not saying the Leafs do it but I think that's the only way a Dumba trade gets done for the Leafs.

Jan. 17, 2020 at 10:58 a.m.

Couvy

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Quoting: jacobzentner

I'm pretty sure Bracco is considered top 6 potential across the league and would be in most teams lineup right now. Only reason he ain't with the leafs is due to all the right handed wingers already (Marner, Nylander, Kapanen)

Jan. 17, 2020 at 11:03 a.m.

jacobzentner

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Quoting: Couvy

Ok i dont view him as top six but i havent watched him play either. even if he has top 6 potential i dont believe that it changes my above comments that that package is still not enough for dumba, especially with the retention

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Jan. 17, 2020 at 11:09 a.m.

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Couvy

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Quoting: jacobzentner

Mini will likely not retain his contract for 4 more years, I'll agree with you there.

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Jan. 17, 2020 at 11:21 a.m.

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I4evrblue

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Quoting: TanSor

If we trade Dumba it won't be for something like this. My guess is the ask would be Nylander. Not saying the Leafs do it but I think that's the only way a Dumba trade gets done for the Leafs.

I agree here. Even if Minny went full rebuild and wanted a ton of prospects and picks it wouldn't make sense to get anything less than a really good forward back for him. Dumba is still young enough to survive a full on rebuild.
I know Dubas loves Nylander so I'm not sure they'd make the swap. My guess is he'd try to sell them on something involving Kapanen++ but the deal would fall through.

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Jan. 17, 2020 at 11:23 a.m.

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Quoting: Couvy

Yah he is really burning it up this year with 3 goals in the AHL, just like TSN said, guy cant score in that league and that is a real problem, it does not translate well to the NHL

Jan. 17, 2020 at 11:42 a.m.

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LorneyHockey

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This is an interesting offer, but essentially it is really Bracco and AJ for Dumba since Barrie is an expiring deal. It may make more sense to deal Barrie for a mid round pick to use in another trade for a defenceman...

Jan. 20, 2020 at 10:39 a.m.

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Couvy

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Quoting: Copenhagen

Yah he is really burning it up this year with 3 goals in the AHL, just like TSN said, guy cant score in that league and that is a real problem, it does not translate well to the NHL

He has literally been a playmaker his whole career, look at his assist totals.

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