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Time to use that cap space - Holtby in offseason

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Team: 2020-21 Colorado Avalanche
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 17, 2020
Published: Jan. 17, 2020
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4$4,500,000
2$2,000,000
2$2,000,000
1$900,000
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5$9,500,000
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22$83,000,000$78,659,762$0$5,425,000$4,340,238
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$6,300,000$6,300,000
C
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C
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$2,850,000$2,850,000
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C, RW
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C
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C
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
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UFA - 7
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RD
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UFA - 3
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$3,333,333$3,333,333
G
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000
RD
RFA - 1
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
LD
UFA - 3
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Jan. 17, 2020 at 1:49 p.m.
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Honestly no one should ever spend that much on a goalie. Goalies are the hardest position to be consistent at and mostly your numbers are reflected by how well the team plays in front of you.
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Jan. 17, 2020 at 1:56 p.m.
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Not willing to do that unless grubauer completely falls apart, also you didnt sign big Z.. also I wouldnt pay that much for holtby or any other goalie
Jan. 17, 2020 at 2:31 p.m.
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Holtby's the greatest goalie in Caps history. I'm sure they'll match any offers they get for him, no matter wha---

Oh wow. 9.5M? Need a landing spot for Grubauer? How does Copley and a 2nd sound?
Jan. 17, 2020 at 2:36 p.m.
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Not willing to do that unless grubauer completely falls apart, also you didnt sign big Z.. also I wouldnt pay that much for holtby or any other goalie


He already started to fall appart. Grubauer have been one of the worst goalie in the last 2 month. Gladly the abs have Pavel in backup. In the last 16 games he allowed 3 goal or more 9 time and been over .900 only 7 time. He don’t look like a number one goalie at all.
Jan. 17, 2020 at 2:36 p.m.
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Grubauer will continue to be solid for Colorado and will sign for something reasonable. Better to save that 9 and a half million.
Jan. 17, 2020 at 2:41 p.m.
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He already started to fall appart. Grubauer have been one of the worst goalie in the last 2 month. Gladly the abs have Pavel in backup. In the last 16 games he allowed 3 goal or more 9 time and been over .900 only 7 time. He don’t look like a number one goalie at all.


He's had a better record (.909) than Carey Price (.903), John Gibson (0.902) and Holtby (0.896) in the past two months.
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Jan. 17, 2020 at 3:00 p.m.
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He's had a better record (.909) than Carey Price (.903), John Gibson (0.902) and Holtby (0.896) in the past two months.


And who gave a crap, those number are really bad and clearly not number one like. You justify the facts that your goalies is hot garbage by comparing him to other goalie who have a bad year this isn’t making him look better. Thats just amplify the fact that he is hot trash
Jan. 17, 2020 at 3:02 p.m.
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There's a reason the Avs have the cap space they have: to re-sign key players in the near future. Not to spend on an aging, declining goaltender. Key example is Bobrovski.
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Jan. 17, 2020 at 3:18 p.m.
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And who gave a crap, those number are really bad and clearly not number one like. You justify the facts that your goalies is hot garbage by comparing him to other goalie who have a bad year this isn’t making him look better. Thats just amplify the fact that he is hot trash


Well one, he's not my goalie. I'm not a Colorado Avalanche fan.

Two, your comment was implying that Grubauer isn't a number one goalie and signing Holtby is a good idea. I was pointing out that Grubauer has been statistically better than Holtby in the time frame you mentioned.

Three, I used Carey Price because you're the guy who really wanted to trade him to Colorado.

Four, you have nonsensical standards if a 0.909 save percentage is hot trash.
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Jan. 17, 2020 at 3:31 p.m.
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Well one, he's not my goalie. I'm not a Colorado Avalanche fan.

Two, your comment was implying that Grubauer isn't a number one goalie and signing Holtby is a good idea. I was pointing out that Grubauer has been statistically better than Holtby in the time frame you mentioned.

Three, I used Carey Price because you're the guy who really wanted to trade him to Colorado.

Four, you have nonsensical standards if a 0.909 save percentage is hot trash.


First your have reading issue since a was saying that grubauer was falling appart. And he isnt a number one in the first place.

Second where did i mentioned that signing holtby was a good idea. You made that up by your own self. Don’t accuse people for thing that they didn’t say.

Third i have never try to trade carey price to the Avs. Another imaginary scenario that you made in your little head. I have defend him in many post but i have never wanted him out of Montreal.

A backup goalie have a acceptable save % when he is over 900% and starting goalies must be over .915% to get to the minimum accepteble. Below that you aren’t having a good season so that mean you are not good enough.

And again you made up all that story for your own good just to try to justify that grubauer isnt sucking big zob. But he is and he might cost a playoff spot if he don’t start to make save again.
Jan. 17, 2020 at 3:46 p.m.
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He already started to fall appart. Grubauer have been one of the worst goalie in the last 2 month. Gladly the abs have Pavel in backup. In the last 16 games he allowed 3 goal or more 9 time and been over .900 only 7 time. He don’t look like a number one goalie at all.


The whole teams been bad the last month not just the goalies, freddy andersen basically has the exact same stats.. is he a #1 goalie?

Grubauer turned it on last year and won the job outright and was amazing in the playoffs, goalies hit slumps, also when you dmen activate like the avs do, you tend to get scored on more
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Jan. 17, 2020 at 3:52 p.m.
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First your have reading issue since a was saying that grubauer was falling appart. And he isnt a number one in the first place.

Second where did i mentioned that signing holtby was a good idea. You made that up by your own self. Don’t accuse people for thing that they didn’t say.

Third i have never try to trade carey price to the Avs. Another imaginary scenario that you made in your little head. I have defend him in many post but i have never wanted him out of Montreal.

A backup goalie have a acceptable save % when he is over 900% and starting goalies must be over .915% to get to the minimum accepteble. Below that you aren’t having a good season so that mean you are not good enough.

And again you made up all that story for your own good just to try to justify that grubauer isnt sucking big zob. But he is and he might cost a playoff spot if he don’t start to make save again.


hahaha

Seems like I'm not the one with the reading issue here. Do you notice the word "implying" in my post? You were responding to Jeff whose comment was that he wouldn't want to sign Holtby unless Grubauer was "starting to fall apart". Your post is an implication that signing Holtby is better than relying on Grubauer, since that's one of the main things about this armchair GM. Unless of course you just wanted to whine about Grubauer for whatever reason.

I also recall you making this ACGM?

There's also no such thing as an "acceptable save %". I'm not going to argue about that because I don't have the patience, but it proves my point about you having nonsensical standards for goaltenders.

Also, I'm not sure what story I made up? I was pointing out that Grubauer has had a better save percentage than your own wonderboy, a goaltender people rave about constantly, and the guy the OP wants to replace him with. What I don't understand is why you hate Grubauer so much that you're willing to get into a heated arugment on Capfriendly about it.
Jan. 17, 2020 at 4:13 p.m.
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hahaha

Seems like I'm not the one with the reading issue here. Do you notice the word "implying" in my post? You were responding to Jeff whose comment was that he wouldn't want to sign Holtby unless Grubauer was "starting to fall apart". Your post is an implication that signing Holtby is better than relying on Grubauer, since that's one of the main things about this armchair GM. Unless of course you just wanted to whine about Grubauer for whatever reason.

I also recall you making this ACGM?

There's also no such thing as an "acceptable save %". I'm not going to argue about that because I don't have the patience, but it proves my point about you having nonsensical standards for goaltenders.

Also, I'm not sure what story I made up? I was pointing out that Grubauer has had a better save percentage than your own wonderboy, a goaltender people rave about constantly, and the guy the OP wants to replace him with. What I don't understand is why you hate Grubauer so much that you're willing to get into a heated arugment on Capfriendly about it.


Grubauer is hot trash and you can face the truth somyou made up a whole imaginary story where he is playing with unicorn and he is a good goalie. The avalanche is screw real bad with that hot garbage goalie.

You have made up the holtby story by your own. I wasn’t implying anything there. The only thing i mentionned is that grubauer was falling appart. I did mentioned that they should replace him with holtby. You assumed that it had somethibg to do with it, when it clearly not.

For the carey price trade i hope its a joke! No one who have any judgement would none that it’s wasn’t a real attempt.

And if there no such thing about acceptable % pourcentage your argument that grubaueur is better than other goalie are bullshat since that statistics is non representative of a goalie performance. Because grubauer can suk badly but he is a great goalie with a .911% but Price is the worst goalie in the league with a .909%. Your are pointless everysingle time.

If price is bad grubauer isnt much better. You are the one the brings that up mister nobel prize. If in first place you would have mind your own bizwax you wouldn’t have look like a fool.
Jan. 17, 2020 at 4:19 p.m.
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The whole teams been bad the last month not just the goalies, freddy andersen basically has the exact same stats.. is he a #1 goalie?

Grubauer turned it on last year and won the job outright and was amazing in the playoffs, goalies hit slumps, also when you dmen activate like the avs do, you tend to get scored on more


I still don’t think that he is a number one goaltender. Some goaltender just can face a number one work charge and be efficient as as tandem or number 2. Jaroslav halak, tomas greiss, anthon kudobin have all been stellar backup but when they had to fill in for a number one job they didn’t have success because the amount of job isnt the same, you can’t practice little technical detail of your game on daily basis with the goaltending coach. You get more tired mentally. He haven’t show yet that he can be a number one goalie and have success.
Jan. 17, 2020 at 4:35 p.m.
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I did mentioned that they should replace him with holtby.


Wasn't going to respond to your wall of garbaled sentences but lmao at this.
Jan. 17, 2020 at 4:42 p.m.
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Wasn't going to respond to your wall of garbaled sentences but lmao at this.


Yeah now that i have exposed you you run away. Bye bye
 
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