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Created by: TeemusSalami
Team: 2019-20 Edmonton Oilers
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 8, 2020
Published: Jan. 17, 2020
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
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EDM
  1. Tatar, Tomas
  2. 2020 4th round pick (ANA)
MTL
  1. Granlund, Markus
  2. Khaira, Jujhar
  3. Puljujärvi, Jesse [Reserve List]
  4. 2020 5th round pick (EDM)
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2020
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2021
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2022
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23$81,500,000$80,861,165$0$2,707,500$638,835
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$4,800,000$4,800,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$12,500,000$12,500,000
C
UFA - 7
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$1,950,000$1,950,000
RW
UFA - 1
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
LW, C
UFA - 2
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$8,500,000$8,500,000
C, LW
UFA - 6
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$894,166$894,166 (Performance Bonus$230,000$230K)
RW
RFA - 2
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$5,750,000$5,750,000
RW, LW
UFA - 4
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$900,000$900,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000
LW
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$637,500$638K)
C
UFA - 1
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$2,150,000$2,150,000
RW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$4,167,000$4,167,000
LD
UFA - 4
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$4,166,666$4,166,666
RD
UFA - 2
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$3,200,000$3,200,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$720,000$720,000 (Performance Bonus$20,000$20K)
RD
UFA - 1
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$2,000,000$2,000,000 (Performance Bonus$1,750,000$2M)
G
NTC
UFA - 1
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$4,000,000$4,000,000
LD/RD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
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$720,000$720,000 (Performance Bonus$70,000$70K)
LD/RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$675,000$675,000
C
RFA - 1
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$1,150,000$1,150,000
C
UFA - 1
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$1,900,000$1,900,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$700,000$700,000
RW
UFA - 1

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Jan. 17, 2020 at 5:24 p.m.
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Quoting: Copenhagen
Yah if Nuge had decent wingers to play with in the last 5 years, he would be better too. Nuge always gets the crap


Interesting topic, I don't have time to go into it right now, but here's a few facts:

Total boxcars from 2017-18 to today (2.5 years):

Nugent-Hopkins: 186, 65-83-148
Danault: 182, 32-81-113

Nuge scored more than twice as many goals and slightly more assists overall. Much of the difference comes on the PP though - here are the 5v5 boxcars:

Nugent-Hopkins: 186, 34-41-75
Danault: 182, 24-61-85

So Danault had fewer goals but more assist at 5v5 than Nugent-Hopkins did. Why? Here's their most common wingers:

Nugent-Hopkins: Lucic, Chiasson
Danault: Gallagher, Tatar

OUCH! Danault certainly has a huge, huge advantage there. The Montreal center does play a bit more against elites (not as difficult when you aren't dragging Milan Lucic around) but his results aren't better:

Nugent-Hopkins: 923 minutes vs Elites, 2.54 GF - 2.02 GA = +0.52 GD/60
Danault: 1163 minutes vs Elites, 2.42 GF - 2.42 GA = 0.00 GD/60

Overall Danault's goal differential results are better than RNH's, so he's obviously better against lesser comp. Hard to reconcile the difference in wingers though, as you say.
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Jan. 17, 2020 at 5:28 p.m.
#27
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Quoting: Sebybbqpower
One good winger and a 3 line center. That third line center become even more important in playoff when you are on the road. This is the biggest need. A real good goalie would hurt to but they have been ok this year.


Or we can get another couple wingers and move nuge to third line center. We would need 2 and 4th line or Shehan/Nygard/Archibald would be amazing
Jan. 17, 2020 at 5:30 p.m.
#28
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Quoting: Copenhagen
Or we can get another couple wingers and move nuge to third line center. We would need 2 and 4th line or Shehan/Nygard/Archibald would be amazing


Yeah sheahan is very affective as fourth liner. Good skater who can contribute offensively occasionally and very responsible defensively.
Jan. 17, 2020 at 5:38 p.m.
#29
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Quoting: Copenhagen
Or we can get another couple wingers and move nuge to third line center.


Possibly only 1 winger needs to be acquired, Benson might be the other one.
Jan. 17, 2020 at 5:40 p.m.
#30
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Quoting: CD282
Possibly only 1 winger needs to be acquired, Benson might be the other one.


Yah if he ever gets brought up. but i am sure that a poolparty and 2nd round pick gets us somewhere, even if we throw in lagesson. should get a decent winger for us
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Jan. 17, 2020 at 5:47 p.m.
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Quoting: Copenhagen
Yah if he ever gets brought up. but i am sure that a poolparty and 2nd round pick gets us somewhere, even if we throw in lagesson. should get a decent winger for us


Yes, that package would return something decent for sure. I think Benson will get his chance after the All Star break, they want to let Yamamoto settle in first and then also give Benson a fair look well before the deadline. This will give Holland a really good idea what he has and what he needs. Based on Benson's skillset, I'd really like to see this:

Benson - McDavid - Kassian
Nuge - Draisaitl - Yamamoto

etc.
Jan. 17, 2020 at 5:49 p.m.
#32
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Quoting: CD282
Yes, that package would return something decent for sure. I think Benson will get his chance after the All Star break, they want to let Yamamoto settle in first and then also give Benson a fair look well before the deadline. This will give Holland a really good idea what he has and what he needs. Based on Benson's skillset, I'd really like to see this:

Benson - McDavid - Kassian
Nuge - Draisaitl - Yamamoto

etc.


Yah if they called up Benson now and before allstar break, i think he misses 7 games in the AHL during that time. We definatly got to get Neal off of the top line
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Jan. 17, 2020 at 5:52 p.m.
#33
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Quoting: Copenhagen
We definatly got to get Neal off of the top line


He's done pretty well there, but I agree - I don't think it's a good place for him going forward.
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Jan. 17, 2020 at 11:33 p.m.
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At the end of the day, its going to come down one thing. Demand. If the demand is high, Habs will get someone to give them a 1st+. If not and the offer is the above, the Habs will probably just keep Tatar and either try again at the draft or simply keep him for next season and try yet again at next TDL.

Habs aren't tearing it down so either they get the value they want or they spin it to the fans and media that they are trying to go for it again next year. That's the beauty of having players with term. You don't HAVE to trade the player if the demand isn't there.
 
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