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Tatar

Created by: jslongo
Initial Creation Date: Jan 17, 2020
Published: Jan 17 at 2:11
Team: 2019-20 Carolina Hurricanes
Trades
CAR
  1. Tatar, Tomas
  2. 2020 4th round pick (ANA)
MTL
  1. Niederreiter, Nino ($750,000 retained)
  2. Filipe, Matt [Reserve List]
  3. 2020 1st round pick (TOR)
Buyouts
  • Patrick Marleau: $6,250,000
  • Alexander Semin: $2,333,333
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Nino Niederreiter: $750,000 (14.29%)
  • Justin Faulk: $683,333 (14%)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
CAR
CAR
NYR
CAR
BUF
CAR
ANA
CAR
TOR
2021
CAR
CAR
CAR
CAR
CAR
CAR
CAR
STL
2022
CAR
CAR
CAR
CAR
CAR
CAR
CAR
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
21$81,500,000$74,955,666$0$4,507,500$6,544,334
Left WingCenterRight Wing
MTL
Tatar, Tomas
$4,800,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
CAR
Aho, Sebastian
$8,454,000
C, LW
UFA - 5
CAR
Teräväinen, Teuvo
$5,400,000
RW, LW
UFA - 5
CAR
Svechnikov, Andrei
$925,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
CAR
Staal, Jordan
$6,000,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 4
CAR
Williams, Justin
$700,000
RW
UFA - 1
CAR
Dzingel, Ryan
$3,375,000
LW, RW, C
UFA - 2
CAR
Haula, Erik
$2,750,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
CAR
Necas, Martin
$863,333
C, RW
RFA - 3
CAR
Foegele, Warren
$746,667
LW
RFA - 1
CAR
Wallmark, Lucas
$675,000
C
RFA - 1
CAR
Martinook, Jordan
$2,000,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
CAR
Slavin, Jaccob
$5,300,000
LD
UFA - 6
CAR
Pesce, Brett
$4,025,000
RD
UFA - 5
CAR
Reimer, James
$3,400,000
G
UFA - 2
CAR
Edmundson, Joel
$3,100,000
LD
UFA - 1
CAR
Gardiner, Jake
$4,050,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 4
CAR
Mrázek, Petr
$3,125,000
G
UFA - 2
CAR
Fleury, Haydn
$850,000
LD
RFA - 1
CAR
van Riemsdyk, Trevor
$2,300,000
RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
CAR
McGinn, Brock
$2,100,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
CAR
Hamilton, Dougie
$5,750,000
RD
UFA - 2

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Jan 17 at 2:19
#1
LAFRENIERE BABY
Joined: May 2017
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Get a D-man to help out without Hamilton
Jan 17 at 2:20
#2
Thread Starter
Canes Baby
Joined: Jun 2018
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Quoting: KakkoForMauriceRichardAward
Get a D-man to help out without Hamilton


This is about Tatar, not Hamilton
Jan 17 at 2:20
#3
Joined: Dec 2019
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This proposal is horrible for the canes.
Jan 17 at 2:22
#4
Thread Starter
Canes Baby
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Quoting: TWOminutes4surging
This proposal is horrible for the canes.


How so? Makes the forward group a lot better?
Jan 17 at 2:23
#5
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Quoting: TWOminutes4surging
This proposal is horrible for the canes.


lol
Jan 17 at 2:24
#6
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Montreal isn't going to do this trade, Nino is overpaid and Filipe is a throw in prospect.

For Tatar, it's atleast a 1st + high end prospect or Montreal should just keep him.
Jan 17 at 2:27
#7
Thread Starter
Canes Baby
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Quoting: HabsForEver
Montreal isn't going to do this trade, Nino is overpaid and Filipe is a throw in prospect.

For Tatar, it's atleast a 1st + high end prospect or Montreal should just keep him.


Nino Overpaid, yes. Still worth a 2nd rounder if you want to flip him.
Jan 17 at 2:30
#8
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Quoting: jslongo
Nino Overpaid, yes. Still worth a 2nd rounder if you want to flip him.


I don't see him being worth that unless we retain on him again. 40ish point season isn't worth 5.00 to teams.
Jan 17 at 2:30
#9
Joined: Dec 2019
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But at what cost? Certainly not a 1st rounder. The difference in value could be made up with a mid level pick or b level prospect.
Jan 17 at 2:32
#10
idk what to write
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Why from MTL
Jan 17 at 2:34
#11
Thread Starter
Canes Baby
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Quoting: MaxDomi13
Why from MTL


For your rebuild?
Jan 17 at 2:35
#12
idk what to write
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Quoting: jslongo
For your rebuild?


But like Nino's not much younger than Tatar
Jan 17 at 2:37
#13
Thread Starter
Canes Baby
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Quoting: MaxDomi13
But like Nino's not much younger than Tatar


But like, you get a first round pick....
Jan 17 at 2:38
#14
idk what to write
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Quoting: jslongo
But like, you get a first round pick....


How about CAR adding a condition to the pick that MTL gets the earlier 1st
Jan 17 at 2:45
#15
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Quoting: jslongo
But like, you get a first round pick....


We could get a lot more from other teams. Otherwise, we just keep Tatar.
Jan 17 at 2:50
#16
Thread Starter
Canes Baby
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Quoting: HabsForEver
We could get a lot more from other teams. Otherwise, we just keep Tatar.


Im not even going to state my opionion on this to you, because I know you over value every Habs player.

So have a good one Brother!
Jan 17 at 2:51
#17
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Quoting: jslongo
Im not even going to state my opionion on this to you, because I know you over value every Habs player.

So have a good one Brother!


Tatar isn't worth more than an overpaid winger, a throw in prospect, and a late first?
Jan 17 at 2:53
#18
Joined: Jul 2016
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as a MTL fan i think they will target Bean insted of Nino and Felipe
Bean , 1st round vs Tatar the negociation will start and we surround the trade with small prospect and middle or late pick
Jan 17 at 2:54
#19
Thread Starter
Canes Baby
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Quoting: HabsForEver
Tatar isn't worth more than an overpaid winger, a throw in prospect, and a late first?


Lmao as stated in previous comment:

Have a good one brother!
Jan 17 at 2:55
#20
Thread Starter
Canes Baby
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Quoting: chuck28
as a MTL fan i think they will target Bean insted of Nino and Felipe
Bean , 1st round vs Tatar the negociation will start and we surround the trade with small prospect and middle or late pick


Beans Value = Nino + Filipe

So yes Id accept with Bean +1st
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Jan 17 at 2:58
#21
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MTL probably thinks on it, if they see good value in Niederreiter (as in flip for a 2nd plus kind of value) although they could lose him for nothing in expansion which hurts his value a bit. Filipe is interesting, but he could just wait until August and go wherever. Overall I think the value is there in a vacuum, but MTL probably declines.
Jan 17 at 3:00
#22
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Quoting: jslongo
Lmao as stated in previous comment:

Have a good one brother!


Did I say something that is wrong? I want to know where you see Tatar's value from those players
Jan 17 at 3:00
#23
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I would prefer retaining 50% on Tatar than taking Nino.

Tatar @ 50% for 1st & 2nd would be about what I would target as MTL.
Jan 17 at 3:01
#24
Thread Starter
Canes Baby
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Quoting: LumberJacques
I would prefer retaining 50% on Tatar than taking Nino.

Tatar @ 50% for 1st & 2nd would be about what I would target as MTL.


Lmao Done
Jan 17 at 3:01
#25
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Canes Baby
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Quoting: HabsForEver
Did I say something that is wrong? I want to know where you see Tatar's value from those players


Do I have to keep repeating myself? Jesus

You. Over. Value. Habs. Players

Have a good one brother!
 
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