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The only Dumba trade from TOR that MIN accepts

Created by: BLIvingston33
Initial Creation Date: Jan 17, 2020
Published: Jan 17 at 11:00 pm
Team: 2019-20 Minnesota Wild
Trades
MIN
  1. Nylander, William
TOR
  1. Dumba, Matt
  2. 2020 4th round pick (MIN)
Buyouts
  • Tyler Ennis: $1,216,667
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
MIN
MIN
MIN
MIN
MIN
2021
MIN
MIN
MIN
MIN
MIN
MIN
MIN
2022
MIN
MIN
MIN
MIN
MIN
MIN
MIN
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$79,407,621$0$1,100,000$2,092,379
Left WingCenterRight Wing
MIN
Parise, Zach
$7,538,461
LW
NMC
UFA - 6
MIN
Koivu, Mikko
$5,500,000
C
NMC
UFA - 1
MIN
Zuccarello, Mats
$6,000,000
RW
NMC
UFA - 5
MIN
Zucker, Jason
$5,500,000
LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 4
MIN
Rask, Victor
$4,000,000
C
UFA - 3
MIN
Donato, Ryan
$1,900,000
RW, LW, C
RFA - 2
MIN
Fiala, Kevin
$3,000,000
LW
RFA - 2
MIN
Staal, Eric
$3,250,000
C
NTC
UFA - 2
MIN
Kunin, Luke
$925,000
RW, C
RFA - 1
MIN
Foligno, Marcus
$2,875,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
MIN
Eriksson Ek, Joel
$1,487,500
C
RFA - 2
TOR
Nylander, William
$6,962,366
RW, C
UFA - 5
MIN
Hartman, Ryan
$1,900,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
MIN
Greenway, Jordan
$916,666
LW
RFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
MIN
Suter, Ryan
$7,538,461
LD
NMC
UFA - 6
MIN
Spurgeon, Jared
$5,187,500
RD
NMC
UFA - 1
MIN
Dubnyk, Devan
$4,333,333
G
NTC
UFA - 2
MIN
Brodin, Jonas
$4,166,667
LD
UFA - 2
MIN
Pateryn, Greg
$2,250,000
RD
UFA - 2
MIN
Stalock, Alex
$785,000
G
UFA - 3
MIN
Soucy, Carson
$750,000
D
RFA - 1
MIN
Hunt, Brad
$700,000
RD
UFA - 2
MIN
Seeler, Nick
$725,000
LD
UFA - 2

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Jan 17 at 11:02
#1
Martynas
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And Toronto likely declines lol
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Jan 17 at 11:03
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Quoting: ExpiredmilkYT
And Toronto likely declines lol


That's fine, but their fans need to stop thinking the Wild will take Kapanen one for one for Dumba.
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Jan 17 at 11:05
#3
Bailey
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No
Jan 17 at 11:05
#4
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No, I don't think that's true.
And no, they couldn't possibly have their sights set this high, or he wouldn't have been mentioned as "available" by a few sources.
But this won't come close to happening, so Wilder people can dream. Likely a more future oriented package going their way, that's why the Leafs fans have talked young forwards and picks.
Jan 17 at 11:06
#5
Martynas
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Quoting: BLIvingston33
That's fine, but their fans need to stop thinking the Wild will take Kapanen one for one for Dumba.


I can agree with you on that.
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Jan 17 at 11:06
#6
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Quoting: ExpiredmilkYT
And Toronto likely declines lol


And Toronto definitely laughs.
Just a typo from Mr. Milk!
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Jan 17 at 11:08
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Quoting: Liamthepro
No, I don't think that's true.
And no, they couldn't possibly have their sights set this high, or he wouldn't have been mentioned as "available" by a few sources.
But this won't come close to happening, so Wilder people can dream. Likely a more future oriented package going their way, that's why the Leafs fans have talked young forwards and picks.


"Maybe listening to offers on Dumba" is not "available". They don't need to trade him at all, the offer would have to be very good.
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Jan 17 at 11:09
#8
Martynas
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Quoting: Liamthepro
And Toronto definitely laughs.
Just a typo from Mr. Milk!


Reminded me to change my username lol
Jan 17 at 11:15
#9
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Quoting: BLIvingston33
"Maybe listening to offers on Dumba" is not "available". They don't need to trade him at all, the offer would have to be very good.


Not sure where the line is, or how far apart those two states are, but either maybe available or available has been the talk. Pretty sure you also know that those are the facts. Semantics are only maybe helpful.
And of course it would have to be for a real offer, not Kappy and a 2nd, no matter how much you like crazy speedsters
Jan 17 at 11:18
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Quoting: Liamthepro
Not sure where the line is, or how far apart those two states are, but either maybe available or available has been the talk. Pretty sure you also know that those are the facts. Semantics are only maybe helpful.
And of course it would have to be for a real offer, not Kappy and a 2nd, no matter how much you like crazy speedsters


Toronto has no first. The only thing they have to offer is Nylander unless they wanna give up Kapanen, Liljegren and a pick. They have nothing else to offer the Wild, a team full to the brim with wingers.
Jan 17 at 11:21
#11
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I agree. Toronto will probably never do it but any Dumba trade should be around Nylander with the Wild adding a little bit. So we can all put Dumba to Toronto trades to rest, cause it ain't happening.
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Jan 17 at 11:24
#12
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Quoting: BLIvingston33
That's fine, but their fans need to stop thinking the Wild will take Kapanen one for one for Dumba.


I agree the Leafs won't get Dumba 1 for 1 with Kapanen but he could be part of the deal. That said I can't see the Leafs trading away 1 of their top 4 forwards while they look like a strong playoff team without Dumba. If Dubas did that he should be fired. If Wild want to get Nylander from Leafs they will have to wait until after the season, then there may be an opportunity.
Wild need to get younger so if the Leafs offered Ceci, Liljegren, and Kapanen possibly a 3rd for the Ceci cap dump I would be inclined to except that deal from them. Not interested in Bracco I think at best he is a 3rd line wing.
Also I believe Leafs blow their best trade bait on Georgiev.
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Jan 17 at 11:27
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Quoting: BLIvingston33
Toronto has no first. The only thing they have to offer is Nylander unless they wanna give up Kapanen, Liljegren and a pick. They have nothing else to offer the Wild, a team full to the brim with wingers.


Ok, could the Wild retain 1.5-2M? Kappy, Lilly and a 3rd = deal for me. Our development team is too good to worry about losing Lilly in there, and we could still trade for other D with the stacked forward depth...
Jan 17 at 11:28
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Quoting: Paul13
I agree the Leafs won't get Dumba 1 for 1 with Kapanen but he could be part of the deal. That said I can't see the Leafs trading away 1 of their top 4 forwards while they look like a strong playoff team without Dumba. If Dubas did that he should be fired. If Wild want to get Nylander from Leafs they will have to wait until after the season, then there may be an opportunity.
Wild need to get younger so if the Leafs offered Ceci, Liljegren, and Kapanen possibly a 3rd for the Ceci cap dump I would be inclined to except that deal from them. Not interested in Bracco I think at best he is a 3rd line wing.
Also I believe Leafs blow their best trade bait on Georgiev.


This. If there's no Nylander involved then it's Kapanen and Liljegren probably. Leafs fans will say that's not equal either though. However, I don't think the Leafs look like a strong playoff team, especially while missing their best two d-men.
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Jan 17 at 11:30
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Quoting: Liamthepro
Ok, could the Wild retain 1.5-2M? Kappy, Lilly and a 3rd = deal for me. Our development team is too good to worry about losing Lilly in there, and we could still trade for other D with the stacked forward depth...


Kapanen, Liljegren and a 2nd and I'd probably give in if Brodin can't get us Bokk out of Carolina.
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Jan 17 at 11:31
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Quoting: Paul13
I agree the Leafs won't get Dumba 1 for 1 with Kapanen but he could be part of the deal. That said I can't see the Leafs trading away 1 of their top 4 forwards while they look like a strong playoff team without Dumba. If Dubas did that he should be fired. If Wild want to get Nylander from Leafs they will have to wait until after the season, then there may be an opportunity.
Wild need to get younger so if the Leafs offered Ceci, Liljegren, and Kapanen possibly a 3rd for the Ceci cap dump I would be inclined to except that deal from them. Not interested in Bracco I think at best he is a 3rd line wing.
Also I believe Leafs blow their best trade bait on Georgiev.


Great, great points here. But I highly doubt the Leafs are into Georgiev for a high price. He is RFA, not a rental, and might want to be someone's starter next year. TML don't need that, with a Russian keeper signing seeming more realistic.
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Jan 17 at 11:32
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Quoting: BLIvingston33
That's fine, but their fans need to stop thinking the Wild will take Kapanen one for one for Dumba.


thank you. Im getting so sick of every toronto fan thinking the wild want wingers and side pieces we need a center to play now
Jan 17 at 11:37
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Quoting: BLIvingston33
This. If there's no Nylander involved then it's Kapanen and Liljegren probably. Leafs fans will say that's not equal either though. However, I don't think the Leafs look like a strong playoff team, especially while missing their best two d-men.


The Leafs don't play much defense anyway their d men are just a means to move the puck up to their forwards. So don't get to hung up on d men being hurt.
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Jan 17 at 11:46
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MNBassman
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I’m Lways looking for ways to throw Donato into deals so how about Dumba and Donato for Nylander and a 4th?
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Jan 17 at 11:48
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Quoting: Liamthepro
Great, great points here. But I highly doubt the Leafs are into Georgiev for a high price. He is RFA, not a rental, and might want to be someone's starter next year. TML don't need that, with a Russian keeper signing seeming more realistic.


I kinda think Georgiev is over hyped as well. I like him but the asking price for a guy who has relatively average numbers seems extremely high.
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Jan 17 at 11:49
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Quoting: MNBassman
I’m Lways looking for ways to throw Donato into deals so how about Dumba and Donato for Nylander and a 4th?


Keep trying someone is gonna say yes.
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