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MAKE A GOD DAMN TRADE LOU

Created by: joshelkin
Initial Creation Date: Jan 18, 2020
Published: Jan 18 at 3:46 pm
Team: 2019-20 New York Islanders
Team Explanation
PITIFUL. Up 4-1 entering the 3rd and drop the game 6-4.
Trades
NYI
  1. Pageau, Jean-Gabriel
OTT
    NYI
    1. Namestnikov, Vladislav
    OTT
      NYI
      1. Ennis, Tyler
      OTT
        NYI
        1. Toffoli, Tyler
        LAK
          NYI
          1. Saad, Brandon
          CHI
            Buyouts
            • Rick DiPietro: $0
            Buried
            • Andrew Ladd: $4,425,000 ($5,500,000)
            • Thomas Hickey: $1,425,000 ($2,500,000)
            DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
            2020
            NYI
            NYI
            NYI
            NYI
            NYI
            NYI
            NYI
            2021
            NYI
            NYI
            NYI
            NYI
            NYI
            NYI
            NYI
            2022
            NYI
            NYI
            NYI
            NYI
            NYI
            NYI
            NYI
            ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
            30$81,500,000$94,139,166$0$1,220,000-$12,639,166
            Left WingCenterRight Wing
            NYI
            Lee, Anders
            $7,000,000
            LW, C
            NTC
            UFA - 7
            NYI
            Nelson, Brock
            $6,000,000
            C, LW
            NTC
            UFA - 6
            NYI
            Eberle, Jordan
            $5,500,000
            RW
            NTC
            UFA - 5
            NYI
            Martin, Matt
            $2,500,000
            LW, RW
            UFA - 1
            NYI
            Cizikas, Casey
            $3,350,000
            C
            UFA - 2
            NYI
            Bailey, Josh
            $5,000,000
            RW, LW
            UFA - 5
            NYI
            Beauvillier, Anthony
            $2,100,000
            LW
            RFA - 2
            NYI
            Brassard, Derick
            $1,200,000
            C
            UFA - 1
            NYI
            Clutterbuck, Cal
            $3,500,000
            RW
            UFA - 3
            NYI
            Johnston, Ross
            $1,000,000
            LW
            UFA - 3
            NYI
            Barzal, Mathew
            $863,333
            C
            RFA - 1
            NYI
            Komarov, Leo
            $3,000,000
            RW, LW, C
            NTC
            UFA - 3
            NYI
            Dal Colle, Michael
            $700,000
            LW
            RFA - 2
            OTT
            Pageau, Jean-Gabriel
            $3,100,000
            C
            UFA - 1
            NYI
            Kühnhackl, Tom
            $850,000
            RW
            UFA - 1
            OTT
            Ennis, Tyler
            $800,000
            C, LW, RW
            UFA - 1
            OTT
            Namestnikov, Vladislav
            $3,250,000
            RW, LW, C
            UFA - 1
            LAK
            Toffoli, Tyler
            $4,600,000
            RW, LW
            UFA - 1
            CHI
            Saad, Brandon
            $6,000,000
            RW, LW
            UFA - 2
            Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
            NYI
            Leddy, Nick
            $5,500,000
            LD
            UFA - 3
            NYI
            Boychuk, Johnny
            $6,000,000
            RD
            NTC
            UFA - 3
            NYI
            Varlamov, Semyon
            $5,000,000
            G
            NTC
            UFA - 4
            NYI
            Pelech, Adam
            $1,600,000
            LD
            RFA - 2
            NYI
            Pulock, Ryan
            $2,000,000
            RD
            RFA - 1
            NYI
            Greiss, Thomas
            $3,333,333
            G
            UFA - 1
            NYI
            Aho, Sebastian
            $770,000
            D
            RFA - 1
            NYI
            Mayfield, Scott
            $1,450,000
            RD
            UFA - 4
            NYI
            Vande Sompel, Mitch
            $728,333
            D
            RFA - 1
            NYI
            Dobson, Noah
            $894,167
            RD
            RFA - 3
            NYI
            Toews, Devon
            $700,000
            LD
            RFA - 1

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            Jan 18 at 3:55
            #1
            Isles777
            Joined: Jun 2019
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            This islanders literally gave this game away - very uncharacteristic of this team. And ill say it again, because trotz doesn’t trust all 12 forwards to play regular minutes is what’s hurting this team. Need a trade or a call up immediately
            Jan 18 at 4:02
            #2
            Joined: May 2018
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            Nice to see you guys starting to realize Lou has no idea what he's doing anymore
            Jan 18 at 4:03
            #3
            Joined: Nov 2016
            Posts: 551
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            The team is not 1 or 2 players away, save the assets and make call ups to Bellows, Wahlstrom and Koivula.

            Dal Colle, Brassard, Kuhnakal can all be waived.
            Jan 18 at 4:07
            #4
            Wqrrior
            Joined: Feb 2019
            Posts: 3,214
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            Quoting: Warrior24
            The team is not 1 or 2 players away, save the assets and make call ups to Bellows, Wahlstrom and Koivula.

            Dal Colle, Brassard, Kuhnakal can all be waived.


            This franchise is like the habs in that they think they can get somewhere by not doing anything. Keep what they have and hope it works. I know Wahlstrom is not going to be a Dal Colle or Ho Sang type bust and will have impact potential... but Bellows is movable and should be moved.

            I put up a thread last night swapping Hyman (+ 3rd) and Mayfield and you guys wouldn't even do that despite having 7 defensemen, scratching your future #1/2 in Dobson. I know you keep saying Boychuk will be moved... but Lou has already been proven incapable of trading. Why hope and rely in Boychuk, on a bad contract at that, will be moved?
            It's the small retool trades that this team desperately needs to make but isn't doing. No trades is better than Snow type trades... but heck at least Snow did something in getting Eberle. All your GM did is get an overpaid Komarov.
            (Note, "you" refers to the fanbase, not "you" directly.)
            Jan 18 at 4:09
            #5
            Isles777
            Joined: Jun 2019
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            Quoting: PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood
            Nice to see you guys starting to realize Lou has no idea what he's doing anymore


            Get the f*ck out of here with that - Just because we want him to make a trade doesn’t mean he doesn’t know what he’s doing.
            Jan 18 at 4:10
            #6
            Joined: Nov 2016
            Posts: 551
            Likes: 157
            Dobson is playing full time with Pelech out for the year.

            Hyman is not what the team needs, not criticizing him as a player but rather see Bellows and Wahlstrom first.

            Boychuk is not movable without adding significant assets, I’d like to see Leddy moved in the off-season and bring in a LD that plays physical.
            Jan 18 at 4:11
            #7
            Thread Starter
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            Quoting: Wqrrior
            This franchise is like the habs in that they think they can get somewhere by not doing anything. Keep what they have and hope it works. I know Wahlstrom is not going to be a Dal Colle or Ho Sang type bust and will have impact potential... but Bellows is movable and should be moved.

            I put up a thread last night swapping Hyman (+ 3rd) and Mayfield and you guys wouldn't even do that despite having 7 defensemen, scratching your future #1/2 in Dobson. I know you keep saying Boychuk will be moved... but Lou has already been proven incapable of trading. Why hope and rely in Boychuk, on a bad contract at that, will be moved?
            It's the small retool trades that this team desperately needs to make but isn't doing. No trades is better than Snow type trades... but heck at least Snow did something in getting Eberle. All your GM did is get an overpaid Komarov.
            (Note, "you" refers to the fanbase, not "you" directly.)


            I have proposed that trade on here a million times lol. Team needs an injection of talent so bad
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            Jan 18 at 4:11
            #8
            Isles777
            Joined: Jun 2019
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            Quoting: Wqrrior
            This franchise is like the habs in that they think they can get somewhere by not doing anything. Keep what they have and hope it works. I know Wahlstrom is not going to be a Dal Colle or Ho Sang type bust and will have impact potential... but Bellows is movable and should be moved.

            I put up a thread last night swapping Hyman (+ 3rd) and Mayfield and you guys wouldn't even do that despite having 7 defensemen, scratching your future #1/2 in Dobson. I know you keep saying Boychuk will be moved... but Lou has already been proven incapable of trading. Why hope and rely in Boychuk, on a bad contract at that, will be moved?
            It's the small retool trades that this team desperately needs to make but isn't doing. No trades is better than Snow type trades... but heck at least Snow did something in getting Eberle. All your GM did is get an overpaid Komarov.
            (Note, "you" refers to the fanbase, not "you" directly.)


            Dobson has played 9 games in a row.

            It is unacceptable for Lou to stand pat this season, all this team needs is a 3C and a middle 6 winger
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            Jan 18 at 4:14
            #9
            Wqrrior
            Joined: Feb 2019
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            Quoting: Isles777
            Dobson has played 9 games in a row.


            that's because pelech is hurt... once he is back you are stuck deciding who of 7 NHL defensemen to scratch. Boychuk is the easy answer, but he is still an NHL defenseman.
            Jan 18 at 4:15
            #10
            Isles777
            Joined: Jun 2019
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            Quoting: Wqrrior
            that's because pelech is hurt... once he is back you are stuck deciding who of 7 NHL defensemen to scratch. Boychuk is the easy answer, but he is still an NHL defenseman.


            Pelech is out for the season
            Jan 18 at 4:20
            #11
            Wqrrior
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            Quoting: Isles777
            Pelech is out for the season


            all 7 of these guys are around next year too. you aren't necessarily a playoff team.

            it's either leddy or mayfield that get moved. and i kinda doubt it'd be leddy at this point. You need some more middle six talent and it's only going to come from trading the defense which should really be a no brainer.
            Jan 18 at 4:25
            #12
            Isles777
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            Quoting: Wqrrior
            all 7 of these guys are around next year too. you aren't necessarily a playoff team.

            it's either leddy or mayfield that get moved. and i kinda doubt it'd be leddy at this point. You need some more middle six talent and it's only going to come from trading the defense which should really be a no brainer.


            lol you don't think the islanders will make the playoffs? Everyone who says that I ask them to put money on it (or bet me) and they won't unsure

            by April, dobson willl be our 2nd best dman
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            Jan 18 at 5:40
            #13
            First NY Then LA
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            Toffoli has developed into a defensively responsible two-way player (note that he is also on a pace to achieve his second-best-ever offensive totals on an offensively challenged and actually bad team) and I think would fit in great on the Island. I'd love to see him finish out his career there.
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            Jan 18 at 5:42
            #14
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            Quoting: Isles777
            Pelech is out for the season


            Out for the season meaning until the playoffs (like Tarasenko or Hamilton), or out for the season meaning until training camp?
            Jan 18 at 5:47
            #15
            Isles777
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            Quoting: OldNYIfan
            Out for the season meaning until the playoffs (like Tarasenko or Hamilton), or out for the season meaning until training camp?[/

            Good question, I guess it depends on the rehab. I hear Achilles injury rehab is a nightmare. So i guess we’ll see - maybe end of April?
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            Jan 18 at 5:50
            #16
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            Quoting: Isles777


            Oh, no, Achilles tendon rehab is six months.
            Jan 18 at 5:58
            #17
            Isles777
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            Quoting: OldNYIfan
            Oh, no, Achilles tendon rehab is six months.


            Yikes. I believe isles said 4-6 months. Not gonna lie, I know it’s a big loss for the team, but I am thrilled that it is forcing their hand to play Dobson. He’s ready and it will just get rid of learning curve faster. I’m excited to see him develop into a top pairing Dman.
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            Jan 18 at 6:09
            #18
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            Quoting: Isles777
            Yikes. I believe isles said 4-6 months. Not gonna lie, I know it’s a big loss for the team, but I am thrilled that it is forcing their hand to play Dobson. He’s ready and it will just get rid of learning curve faster. I’m excited to see him develop into a top pairing Dman.


            I just did a Ducks-and-Kings-to-the-rescue fantasy. See if you like it.
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            Jan 18 at 8:07
            #19
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            This year has really taken a turn for the worst. And I know this is going to sound counter-intuitive, but we shouldn't make any trades. There's no one on the market really worth our picks or prospects (TDL is going to be a seller's market, mark my words) and it's not like importing Toffoli and/or Pageau will make us into Cup contenders. We're just not winning the Cup this year.

            I think it's a better idea to start bringing up a few of the prospects from Bridgeport who've looked good this season. Bellows and Aho have looked like they've made a step forward. Best case scenario, they turn the team's pitiful offense around and we find the offensive boost we needed in house. Worst case scenario, we send them back down after a few games then keep the roster steady for the rest of the season, and do our best to figure out where we've been going wrong the past couple of months.

            Obviously, you try to stay in the playoff picture; I still want Toffoli, but I'd rather swing and miss at him in Free Agency that pay a 2nd round pick and more to get 20 games out of him and then hope he doesn't go somewhere else. The more consistently we make the playoffs, the more likely we can attract the pieces we need through Free Agency. And this draft doesn't look particularly interesting to me past the top few picks. But even if we do miss the playoffs... Honestly I'm not going to be THAT mad. Lou has shown he can find diamonds in the rough. I initially didn't like Holmstrom, but he's grown on me. I liked Bolduc from the start. And while picking Dobson, Wahlstrom and Wilde were all no brainers, picking Iskhakov wasn't, and I think he's skilled enough to make Lou look like a genius in a few years' time.

            It's not like we're a few guys away from a Cup win. Lou doesn't need to make a trade, and unless something incredible comes along, I don't think he should.
             
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