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Next Season- Trades with COL This Trade DL

Created by: AJC13
Initial Creation Date: Jan 12, 2020
Published: Jan 19 at 3:49 am
Team: 2020-21 New York Rangers
Team Explanation
Assuming salary cap Increases only $1.5 million.
Kreider gets $7.5 million per to reduce contract length to 5 year term.
Players on LTIR are possible recalls from the AHL.
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
Barron, Morgan3$800,000
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Deangelo, Anthony2$4,750,000
Di Giuseppe, Phillip1$735,000
Georgiev, Alexandar1$735,000
Lemieux, Brendan4$1,750,000
Lettieri, Vinni1$735,000
Nieves, Cristoval1$735,000
O'Regan, Danny1$735,000
Strome, Ryan4$5,000,000
Greer, AJ1$771,750
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Fast, Jesper3$2,500,000
Fogarty, Steven1$700,000
Haley, Micheal1$700,000
McKegg, Greg1$750,000
Kreider, Chris5$7,500,000
Trades
NYR
  1. Greer, AJ [RFA Rights]
COL
  1. Andersson, Lias
NYR
  1. 2020 4th round pick (COL)
$1,500,000- retained 4th becomes a 3rd
$3,000,000- 4th becomes Shane Bowers
$4,250,000- 4th becomes 2020 a 1st
COL
  1. Lundqvist, Henrik
Additional Details:
Lundqvist requests trade to a cup contending team that needs him rather than serve as the 3rd string goalie for the rest of this season and next season.
Buyouts
  • Kevin Shattenkirk: $6,083,333
  • Dan Girardi: $1,111,111
  • Ryan Spooner: $300,000
  • Brad Richards: $0
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
NYR
NYR
DAL
NYR
COL
NYR
NYR
NYR
NSH
VAN
2021
NYR
NYR
NYR
BUF
NYR
OTT
NYR
NYR
NYR
2022
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
24$83,000,000$82,560,716$0$7,045,000$439,284
Left WingCenterRight Wing
NYR
Kreider, Chris
$7,500,000
LW
UFA
NYR
Zibanejad, Mika
$5,350,000
C
NMC
UFA - 2
NYR
Kakko, Kaapo
$925,000
RW
RFA - 2
NYR
Panarin, Artemi
$11,642,857
LW
NMC
UFA - 6
NYR
Strome, Ryan
$5,000,000
C, RW
RFA
NYR
Buchnevich, Pavel
$3,250,000
RW, LW
RFA - 1
NYR
Howden, Brett
$863,333
C
RFA - 1
NYR
Chytil, Filip
$894,166
LW, C
RFA - 1
NYR
Lemieux, Brendan
$1,750,000
LW, RW
RFA
Greer, AJ
$771,750
LW
RFA
NYR
Barron, Morgan
$800,000
C
RFA
NYR
Fast, Jesper
$2,500,000
RW
UFA
NYR
Smith, Brendan
$4,350,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 1
NYR
McKegg, Greg
$750,000
C, LW
UFA
NYR
Haley, Micheal
$700,000
C
UFA
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
NYR
Skjei, Brady
$5,250,000
LD
UFA - 4
NYR
Trouba, Jacob
$8,000,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 6
NYR
Shesterkin, Igor
$925,000
G
RFA - 1
NYR
Lindgren, Ryan
$925,000
LD
RFA - 1
NYR
Fox, Adam
$925,000
RD
RFA - 2
NYR
Georgiev, Alexandar
$735,000
G
RFA
NYR
Deangelo, Anthony
$4,750,000
RD
RFA
NYR
Keane, Joey
$809,166
RD
RFA - 2
NYR
Staal, Marc
$5,700,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
NYR
Kravtsov, Vitali
$925,000
RW
RFA - 2
NYR
Lettieri, Vinni
$735,000
C, RW
RFA
NYR
Hájek, Libor
$833,333
LD
RFA - 1
NYR
Rykov, Yegor
$925,000
LD
RFA - 1
NYR
Robertson, Matthew
$825,833
LD
RFA - 2
NYR
Huska, Adam
$925,000
G
RFA - 1

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Jan 19 at 4:15
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Colorado isnt looking for a goalie, especially an expensive one that costs assets in a trade
Jan 19 at 4:31
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AJC13
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Edited Jan 19 at 5:36
Quoting: JeffW
Colorado isnt looking for a goalie, especially an expensive one that costs assets in a trade


That's not what I heard down at the Docks (boat and railroadsmile and a 4th round pick is not much of an asset in trade. I heard COL goaltending is currently floundering and again won't get them very far in the playoffs, just like last season.

https://www.denverpost.com/2020/01/13/avalanche-henrik-lundqvist-trade-target/
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Jan 19 at 4:33
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Truly hope NYR wouldn’t give CK $7.5M
Jan 19 at 4:43
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AJC13
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Quoting: JeffW
Colorado isnt looking for a goalie, especially an expensive one that costs assets in a trade



Also Lundqvist's actual salary next season is only $5.5 million, not the $8.5 million cap hit. Which allows COL to continue being frugal.
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Jan 19 at 4:45
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Quoting: Philu916
Truly hope NYR wouldn’t give CK $7.5M


Thought it might be better to over pay CK a little bit and keep the term 5 years instead of 6-7 years.
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Jan 19 at 6:13
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These are all pretty terrible ideas across the board from
1) Resigning Kreider
2) Resigning Strome
3) Bridging Deangelo
4) Massively underselling Hank
5) Trading for an older, worse version of Lias


Were you trying to improve the team?
Jan 19 at 9:06
#7
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Quoting: AJC13
Thought it might be better to over pay CK a little bit and keep the term 5 years instead of 6-7 years.


He’s on a contract year and has come on of late. Even with this spurt, he’s on pace for 55 pts. He has had his standard 10-12 game disappearing act and it may happen again. As he gets older, it may only become 15-20 game disappearing acts. He’ll gradually slow down as well. Sorry just not a huge fan of giving him anything over $7M a year.
Jan 19 at 9:08
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AJC13
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Edited Jan 19 at 9:42
Quoting: Sagecoll
These are all pretty terrible ideas across the board from
1) Resigning Kreider
2) Resigning Strome
3) Bridging Deangelo
4) Massively underselling Hank
5) Trading for an older, worse version of Lias


Were you trying to improve the team?


"Am I trying to improve the team?" Why yes, yes I am...

1- "Resigning Kreider"... Kreider is a dynamic player who's speed, physicality, and net front presence, will be practically impossible to replace. Kreider is one of the best athletes in the league and I don't believe his game will fall off over the next 5 years. What UFA's or players available in trade have the unique talent type of Chris Kreider? Nobody! Players of his ability are rarely traded and are most often locked up to a contract long before ever becoming a UFA.

2- "Resigning Strome"... Strome has played like the top 5 draft pick that he is since being acquired by NYR. Panarin is having the best year he's ever had in the NHL with Strome as his centre. Playing with Panarin, Strome is a point per game player and no other centre has ever made Panarin a better player - which is why Panarin has the highest stat total he's ever had and is playing in his 1st All-star game this season. And Panarin has played with some rather talented (Stanley Cup winning) centres in the past, but none have made him a better player than Strome.

3- "Bridging DeAngelo"... After DeAngelo's bridge deal concludes, DeAngelo will still be a RFA and will have the highest trade value - compared to any longer term contract. At the end of his bridge deal, NYR can determine if they want to resign him or trade him if the younger D-men prospects currently developing in the system prove worthy enough of playing in the NHL. Not to mention, bridge deals seem to keep players hungry and have a way of bringing out their best efforts.

4- "Massively Underselling Hank"... Only underselling Hank if COL picks up all of his $8.5 million contract or $7 million of it. Shane Bowers was a 1st round pick and played for Coach Quinn at BU. And this years draft is supposed to be very deep with talent, so regardless of how late in round one COL picks - there should be a good player available.

5- "Trading for an older, worse version of Lias"... AJ Greer is nothing like Lias Andersson. AJ is a physical force, can drop the gloves to protect teammates, could also develop into a good scorer - especially under Coach Quinn's tutoring for whom he played for at BU, and (unlike Mr. Andersson) AJ has absolutely no problem playing on the 4th line.
Jan 19 at 11:14
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Quoting: AJC13
"Am I trying to improve the team?" Why yes, yes I am...

1- "Resigning Kreider"... Kreider is a dynamic player who's speed, physicality, and net front presence, will be practically impossible to replace. Kreider is one of the best athletes in the league and I don't believe his game will fall off over the next 5 years. What UFA's or players available in trade have the unique talent type of Chris Kreider? Nobody! Players of his ability are rarely traded and are most often locked up to a contract long before ever becoming a UFA. evo-war-graph.png?w=1230, Kreider's value is mostly tied up in his speed. Speed is the 1st thing to go with age... Good luck lol.

2- "Resigning Strome"... Strome has played like the top 5 draft pick that he is since being acquired by NYR. Panarin is having the best year he's ever had in the NHL with Strome as his centre. Playing with Panarin, Strome is a point per game player and no other centre has ever made Panarin a better player - which is why Panarin has the highest stat total he's ever had and is playing in his 1st All-star game this season. And Panarin has played with some rather talented (Stanley Cup winning) centres in the past, but none have made him a better player than Strome. ...Panarin's goal differential is literally better without Strome than with Strome. If you want to put Panarin with a player that improves his game, his numbers are significantly better next to Chytil...

3- "Bridging DeAngelo"... After DeAngelo's bridge deal concludes, DeAngelo will still be a RFA and will have the highest trade value - compared to any longer term contract. At the end of his bridge deal, NYR can determine if they want to resign him or trade him if the younger D-men prospects currently developing in the system prove worthy enough of playing in the NHL. Not to mention, bridge deals seem to keep players hungry and have a way of bringing out their best efforts.

Oh man if only the Avalanche bridged Mackinnon he'd be so hungry lol. This logic sucks.


4- "Massively Underselling Hank"... Only underselling Hank if COL picks up all of his $8.5 million contract or $7 million of it. Shane Bowers was a 1st round pick and played for Coach Quinn at BU. And this years draft is supposed to be very deep with talent, so regardless of how late in round one COL picks - there should be a good player available.

Hank is appropriately paid at 8mil.....he's a top 5 goalie in the league. Half retained, he's worth significantly more than a 1st...

5- "Trading for an older, worse version of Lias"... AJ Greer is nothing like Lias Andersson. AJ is a physical force, can drop the gloves to protect teammates, could also develop into a good scorer - especially under Coach Quinn's tutoring for whom he played for at BU, and (unlike Mr. Andersson) AJ has absolutely no problem playing on the 4th line.



I....can't even begin.

Usually I just like to engage in intelligent discussions on here. And since you've revealed your intelligence here. I don't think a discussion is necessary. Welcome to the ignore list.
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Jan 19 at 11:54
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Quoting: Sagecoll
I....can't even begin.

Usually I just like to engage in intelligent discussions on here. And since you've revealed your intelligence here. I don't think a discussion is necessary. Welcome to the ignore list.


You're an idiot, who cars what you think or what list you put me on. You're ignoring everything I stated that already proved "your opinions" wrong. First off lovely chart, but Kreider's value is much more than speed and you're not taking into account the absolute beast Kreider is physically. Signing Kreider for five years and not six or seven is perfect.

Strome is playing like the top 5 pick he was drafted as and is a point per game player. Centres like that don't grow on tree's moron. What's wrong with having three good lines, the 3rd line centred by Chytil?

Signing DeAngelo to a longer contract when he's no longer an RFA could hamstring the Rangers from trading him when many of their young talented D-men (that are better defensively) are ready to play in the NHL.

What ever "your opinion" of Hank is, no team is trading a 1st round pick for him unless NYR retains half his salary, which is exactly what I'm proposing dummy.

If The Rangers could get more in trade for Andersson - Great! But I'd rather have Zibanejad, Strome, Chytil, and Barron, (as well as Howden - though he's found his game and playing fantastic on the wing), then Andersson. The first three are obvious and you're an idiot if you believe Andersson is better than any of them. Barron is one of the best college centres in college hockey and might be ready for the NHL as soon as next season. And AJ Greer (unlike Andersson) is a great team player who realises, "the name on the front of the jersey is a heck of a lot more important the the name on the back." AJ Greer also played for Quinn at BU.

Sooo basically when an ignorant fool like you puts me on their ignorant list, it's actually a great honour!
Jan 19 at 1:34
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Quoting: AJC13
That's not what I heard down at the Docks (boat and railroadsmile and a 4th round pick is not much of an asset in trade. I heard COL goaltending is currently floundering and again won't get them very far in the playoffs, just like last season.

https://www.denverpost.com/2020/01/13/avalanche-henrik-lundqvist-trade-target/


Quoting: AJC13
Also Lundqvist's actual salary next season is only $5.5 million, not the $8.5 million cap hit. Which allows COL to continue being frugal.


Haha did you read the article? It talks about how the coach has absolute faith in grubauer, but the beat reporter doesnt and thinks they should go after a 8.5 million dollar cap hit backup goalie just in case..

And while hanks salary may only be 5.5 mill next year his cap hit is 8.5 which is more concerning than the money they actually have to shell out
Jan 20 at 5:07
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Quoting: JeffW
Haha did you read the article? It talks about how the coach has absolute faith in grubauer, but the beat reporter doesnt and thinks they should go after a 8.5 million dollar cap hit backup goalie just in case..

And while hanks salary may only be 5.5 mill next year his cap hit is 8.5 which is more concerning than the money they actually have to shell out


What do you expect the coach to say? I have absolutely (no) faith in Grubauer. The purpose of my posting was not so much to do with a trade with COL, but rather how the Rangers lineup would look if Lundqvist was traded. COL in this particular case is rather generic and any team could replace COL with a trade for Lundqvist because only draft picks and an AHL player were used as options instead of a specific return. Hearing things at the docks is a reference from the movie Rocky. I know the article is just some reporter asking the question to COL fans reading it, should COL trade for Lundqvist. More of a think piece article than a factual one.
 
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