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Created by: MitchMarnerElite
Initial Creation Date: Jan 19, 2020
Published: Jan 20 at 1:14 pm
Team: 2020-21 Pittsburgh Penguins
Team Explanation
If the Leafs miss the playoffs this season which is extremely likely, then I think they will really kick tires at signing an elite defenseman like Alex Pietrangelo. However they will need cap space so I wouldn’t be surprised if they trade one of their 4 top forwards. Most likely Marner since he is both overpaid and incapable of playing center.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Jarry, Tristan3$3,500,000
Murray, Matt4$5,000,000
Simon, Dominik3$2,000,000
Kahun, Dominik3$3,000,000
McCann, Jared4$3,500,000
Lafferty, Sam2$900,000
Pettersson, Marcus4$4,250,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Heed, Tim1$1,200,000
Trades
PIT
  1. 2020 3rd round pick (MIN)
NSH
  1. Hörnqvist, Patric ($1,300,000 retained)
PIT
  1. 2020 4th round pick (EDM)
EDM
  1. Bjugstad, Nick
PIT
  1. Marner, Mitchell ($1,893,000 retained)
TOR
  1. Joseph, Pierre-Olivier
  2. Murray, Matt
  3. 2020 1st round pick (PIT)
  4. 2021 1st round pick (PIT)
Additional Details:
This is a gross overpay by Pittsburgh. However looking at what is being given up for guys like Zucker and Saad, I have to think Marner is worth a bit more. If Jim Rutherford were to make a deal for a top winger, expect him to pay less.
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Patric Hörnqvist: $1,300,000 (24.53%)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
PIT
MIN
PIT
EDM
PIT
PIT
2021
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
ANA
2022
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
23$83,000,000$80,918,333$0$1,115,000$2,081,667
Left WingCenterRight Wing
PIT
Guentzel, Jake
$6,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 4
PIT
Crosby, Sidney
$8,700,000
C
NMC
UFA - 5
TOR
Marner, Mitchell
$9,000,000
RW
UFA - 5
PIT
Kahun, Dominik
$3,000,000
LW, RW, C
RFA
PIT
Malkin, Evgeni
$9,500,000
C
NMC
UFA - 2
PIT
Rust, Bryan
$3,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
PIT
Lafferty, Sam
$900,000
C, LW
RFA
PIT
McCann, Jared
$3,500,000
LW, C
RFA
PIT
Simon, Dominik
$2,000,000
RW, LW
RFA
PIT
Aston-Reese, Zach
$1,000,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
PIT
Blueger, Teddy
$750,000
C, LW
RFA - 1
PIT
Tanev, Brandon
$3,500,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 5
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
PIT
Dumoulin, Brian
$4,100,000
LD
UFA - 3
PIT
Letang, Kris
$7,250,000
RD
NMC NTC
UFA - 2
PIT
Jarry, Tristan
$3,500,000
G
RFA
PIT
Johnson, Jack
$3,250,000
LD
UFA - 3
PIT
Marino, John
$925,000
D
RFA - 1
PIT
DeSmith, Casey
$1,250,000
G
UFA - 2
PIT
Pettersson, Marcus
$4,250,000
LD
UFA - 5
Heed, Tim
$1,200,000
RD
UFA
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
PIT
Poulin, Samuel
$925,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
PIT
Légaré, Nathan
$809,167
RW
RFA - 2
PIT
Addison, Calen
$809,166
RD
RFA - 2

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Jan 20 at 1:15
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Oh god
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Jan 20 at 1:17
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I like it. Well done. grin
Jan 20 at 1:17
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This is a good one. Thanks I needed to laugh today.
Jan 20 at 1:34
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Be honest, you think Leafs can Murray on top what they are paying Andersen?
Jan 20 at 1:35
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Quoting: AFOX10900
Oh god


You don’t like the overpayment for Marner? Well me neither but luckily I’m not the wizard that is Jim Rutherford.
Jan 20 at 1:36
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Subbanator
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How is a A- prospect, a half decent goalie and two late first round picks an over pay for a 90 point winger? Marner would instantly become Pitts 3rd best player
Jan 20 at 1:36
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Quoting: CD282
I like it. Well done. grin


Thank you sir.
Jan 20 at 1:37
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Quoting: newballcoach
This is a good one. Thanks I needed to laugh today.


To be honest, if Pittsburgh had this team they would be unstoppable.
Jan 20 at 1:38
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Quoting: Trickster
Be honest, you think Leafs can Murray on top what they are paying Andersen?


Well, if the Leafs trade Marner, plus let all their free agents walk they’ll probably have more than 20 million in cap space. They can use that to sign Pietrangelo, Murray and maybe even Muzzin.
Jan 20 at 1:40
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Hugh Hefner of CF
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Quoting: MikeyThePensFan
Well, if the Leafs trade Marner, plus let all their free agents walk they’ll probably have more than 20 million in cap space. They can use that to sign Pietrangelo, Murray and maybe even Muzzin.


How about Penguins keep their guys and picks... and Leafs keep Marner.
Jan 20 at 1:42
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Quoting: Subbanator7667
How is a A- prospect, a half decent goalie and two late first round picks an over pay for a 90 point winger? Marner would instantly become Pitts 3rd best player


Murray as long as he’s confident is a really good starting goaltender so he should be able to fetch a 1st Round pick as well. So the value would be 4 1st round picks for Marner. That is a lot.
Jan 20 at 1:43
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Quoting: Trickster
How about Penguins keep their guys and picks... and Leafs keep Marner.


Leafs will have a better chance at winning the cup if they invest Marner’s cap space on defence and goaltending.
Jan 20 at 8:07
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Quoting: MikeyThePensFan
You don’t like the overpayment for Marner? Well me neither but luckily I’m not the wizard that is Jim Rutherford.


Thats an underpayment if anything. A bottom 5 goalie this season, two late firsts, and a player teetering on bust territory for Marner lol
Jan 21 at 9:43
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Quoting: MadmanFromMadison
Thats an underpayment if anything. A bottom 5 goalie this season, two late firsts, and a player teetering on bust territory for Marner lol


Murray had a real tough start to the season, but he’s getting it together now and if he keeps it up, he’ll have good value at the end of the season. He’s a proven starter with 2 cups. Some people are not high on Joseph since he hasn’t made an impact right away but he’s only 20. A solid skater with good defensive awareness could allow him to become a solid shutdown defenseman in the future. Honestly, this is as big of a package as what Devils got for Hall. Marner’s no Hall.
Jan 21 at 12:29
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Quoting: MikeyThePensFan
Murray had a real tough start to the season, but he’s getting it together now and if he keeps it up, he’ll have good value at the end of the season. He’s a proven starter with 2 cups. Some people are not high on Joseph since he hasn’t made an impact right away but he’s only 20. A solid skater with good defensive awareness could allow him to become a solid shutdown defenseman in the future. Honestly, this is as big of a package as what Devils got for Hall. Marner’s no Hall.


Marner has term hall was a UFA. Mitch is also only 22...hall is 28 and is the worse player of the two besides Hall's Hart season. Leafs would never accept this. Marner has Kane level value to their team which the Pens dont have the assets to get.

POJ is 6'3 yet has less muscle mass than most guys who are 5'10 he hasnt filled out his frame at all hence why he hasnt come close to making the league yet.
 
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