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which wingers will actually get a 1st at TDL

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Initial Creation Date: Jan. 20, 2020
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I Have seen a bunch of ACGMs from teams thinking their player will get a 1st plus a prospect, so below are all the wingers who may actually be available this trade deadline, I put them in tiers of who I think carries the most value, but looking for peoples opinions

Top line are the wingers I think have the most trade value


Second line is a below in value and so and so on
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21$81,500,000$62,644,643$0$0$18,855,357
Left WingCentreRight Wing
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$4,800,000$4,800,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Minnesota Wild
$5,500,000$5,500,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo of the New York Rangers
$4,625,000$4,625,000
LW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the New Jersey Devils
$2,325,000$2,325,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$3,100,000$3,100,000
C
UFA - 1
Logo of the New Jersey Devils
$4,500,000$4,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Los Angeles Kings
$4,600,000$4,600,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the New Jersey Devils
$2,500,000$2,500,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$350,000$350,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Detroit Red Wings
$3,000,000$3,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Nashville Predators
$2,857,143$2,857,143
C, RW
UFA - 7
Logo of the Los Angeles Kings
$800,000$800,000
LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Nashville Predators
$5,750,000$5,750,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Minnesota Wild
$1,900,000$1,900,000
LW, C, RW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$3,400,000$3,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 4
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$2,937,500$2,937,500
C
UFA - 1
Logo of the Nashville Predators
$1,100,000$1,100,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the New Jersey Devils
$2,750,000$2,750,000
LW
UFA - 3
Logo of the New Jersey Devils
$1,800,000$1,800,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
Logo of the New York Rangers
$3,250,000$3,250,000
LW, RW, C
UFA - 2
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$800,000$800,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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Jan. 20, 2020 at 2:11 p.m.
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This is hard because you included guys with term. So how does a Palmieri vs Kreider stack up since Palmieri has an extra year lol
Jan. 20, 2020 at 2:14 p.m.
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Anyone with a "UFA-1" on their tile is not worth a 1st round pick this year. Zucker, Palmieri, AA, and Tatar are the only guys on this list that you could make an argument for a 1st in return value, IMO.
Jan. 20, 2020 at 2:16 p.m.
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Quoting: csick
This is hard because you included guys with term. So how does a Palmieri vs Kreider stack up since Palmieri has an extra year lol


See and that's whats difficult for me to, because I see people posting Kreider trades for a 1st and good prospect when teams can probably get Zucker or Tatar with term for that and a lil bit more so wanted to see how people valued them
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Jan. 20, 2020 at 2:17 p.m.
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Zucker, Palms, Tatar, and maybe Coleman are the only guys I'd consider giving a first for (on here) though I wouldn't be mad if one of my teams gave a first for Toffoli or Gusev, I just think they can be had for less (sry OTT NYR and DET fans... I would not give a first for Kreider AA or JGP...)
Jan. 20, 2020 at 2:18 p.m.
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Quoting: AFOX10900
Zucker, Palms, Tatar, and maybe Coleman are the only guys I'd consider giving a first for (on here) though I wouldn't be mad if one of my teams gave a first for Toffoli or Gusev, I just think they can be had for less (sry OTT NYR and DET fans... I would not give a first for Kreider AA or JGP...)


AA isn't a rental
Jan. 20, 2020 at 2:20 p.m.
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AA isn't a rental


Yeah, i still wouldn't give a first for him, he had a career year last year, and every sign points to him never reaching close to that level again, he brings speed, which is useful, but that's about it
Jan. 20, 2020 at 2:21 p.m.
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Quoting: AFOX10900
Yeah, i still wouldn't give a first for him, he had a career year last year, and every sign points to him never reaching close to that level again, he brings speed, which is useful, but that's about it


Got into a debate with a Det fan that was trying to convince me that he was more valuable then Trochek, Im not nearly that high on AA to even give up a 1st for him
Jan. 20, 2020 at 2:23 p.m.
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How did Sissons get 7 years
Jan. 20, 2020 at 2:26 p.m.
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Quoting: Subbanator7667
Got into a debate with a Det fan that was trying to convince me that he was more valuable then Trochek, Im not nearly that high on AA to even give up a 1st for him


Though I agree Trocheck is a better player. AA has two years of cost control and I really believe the injury he had at the start of the season never really healed and he was never 100%.

Would I give up a 1st for him but he is intriguing and needs to be watched over the next year and half.
Jan. 20, 2020 at 2:31 p.m.
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I think these are the guys who can be traded with the first as the key asset:
-Tatar
-Zucker
-Kreider
-Palmieri
-Tierney
-Coleman
Jan. 20, 2020 at 2:35 p.m.
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I think more importantly is, how many teams are willing to give up 1sts this year? That number is maybe 3-4 max IMO. Some guys above may be worth 1sts but might not get one just because there are so few teams willing to give up their 1sts.

An alternative to your question could be, how may of these guys are worth the equivalent of a 1st this year? That may be more pertinent because for example if the Habs don't get a 1st for Tatar, i'd be perfectly happy with an offer from Dallas of a guy like Harley.......... Doesn't have to be a 1st round pick.
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Jan. 20, 2020 at 2:37 p.m.
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Quoting: mondo
I think these are the guys who can be traded with the first as the key asset:
-Tatar
-Zucker
-Kreider
-Palmieri
-Tierney
-Coleman


People need to remember that Mark Stone got a top end prospect and an unconditional 2nd ( and a plug player) and none of those guys above is Mark Stone. Everyone over values their trade chips on this site - I will be amazed if any of the UFA's listed above bring in a first unless it is in the 26-30 range!

The Tatars Zuckers and Palimeris with term should fetch a 1st and b prospects or a top tier prospect and a 2nd or 3rd depending on prospect
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Jan. 20, 2020 at 2:44 p.m.
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You could argue that the UFA-1 guys if they were to resign with the team who gets them, the 2nd rounder (should they be worth that) gets moved to a 1st but it most likely wouldn't be for this years draft but in 2021.
Jan. 20, 2020 at 2:51 p.m.
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Quoting: F50marco
An alternative to your question could be, how may of these guys are worth the equivalent of a 1st this year? That may be more pertinent because for example if the Habs don't get a 1st for Tatar, i'd be perfectly happy with an offer from Dallas of a guy like Harley.......... Doesn't have to be a 1st round pick.


I probably should've stated in my post that the guys I mentioned are worth a 1st or equivalent. It's much more a matter of who actually offers for the players and who is willing to give up assets to the acquire the player.

Quoting: InTreWeTrust
People need to remember that Mark Stone got a top end prospect and an unconditional 2nd ( and a plug player) and none of those guys above is Mark Stone. Everyone over values their trade chips on this site - I will be amazed if any of the UFA's listed above bring in a first unless it is in the 26-30 range!

The Tatars Zuckers and Palimeris with term should fetch a 1st and b prospects or a top tier prospect and a 2nd or 3rd depending on prospect


People need to remember that Mark Stone railroaded the Senators into a trade with Vegas. It's almost as if every NHL trade has some context behind it, and saying a list of players is worth a first is the "baseline" estimate for how much they would go for assuming reasonable demand.

All these players are productive forwards and teams that are looking to go deep into the playoffs; if several teams are offering for a certain player they will more than likely put their first up in the hopes that is within the 26-30.
Jan. 20, 2020 at 3:39 p.m.
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Quoting: csick
This is hard because you included guys with term. So how does a Palmieri vs Kreider stack up since Palmieri has an extra year lol


i was thinking the same thing, also i would argue palmieri is worth more as point production is similar but palmieri scores more
Jan. 20, 2020 at 3:43 p.m.
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Quoting: InTreWeTrust
People need to remember that Mark Stone got a top end prospect and an unconditional 2nd ( and a plug player) and none of those guys above is Mark Stone. Everyone over values their trade chips on this site - I will be amazed if any of the UFA's listed above bring in a first unless it is in the 26-30 range!

The Tatars Zuckers and Palimeris with term should fetch a 1st and b prospects or a top tier prospect and a 2nd or 3rd depending on prospect


right but brannstrom was the equivalent of a 1st+, meaning he is worth more than vegas's first. i agree with your whole point, just clarifying fetching a first is not equal to stones brannstrom ++

these guys could get a first

stone got more than a first in brannstrom, + a 2nd rounder, plus a plug
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Jan. 20, 2020 at 3:46 p.m.
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I'm very pumped that I see a lot of NJ in position to get a good amount back. And then reality sets in and I realize the devils are doomed
 
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