Forums/Armchair-GM

which wingers will actually get a 1st at TDL

Created by: Subbanator7667
Initial Creation Date: Jan 20, 2020
Published: Jan 20 at 2:05 pm
Team: 2019-20 Custom Team
Team Explanation
I Have seen a bunch of ACGMs from teams thinking their player will get a 1st plus a prospect, so below are all the wingers who may actually be available this trade deadline, I put them in tiers of who I think carries the most value, but looking for peoples opinions

Top line are the wingers I think have the most trade value


Second line is a below in value and so and so on
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
21$81,500,000$67,819,643$0$0$13,680,357
Left WingCenterRight Wing
MTL
Tatar, Tomas
$4,800,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
MIN
Zucker, Jason
$5,500,000
LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 4
NYR
Kreider, Chris
$4,625,000
LW
NTC
UFA - 1
NJD
Palmieri, Kyle
$4,650,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 2
LAK
Toffoli, Tyler
$4,600,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
OTT
Pageau, Jean-Gabriel
$3,100,000
C
UFA - 1
NJD
Gusev, Nikita
$4,500,000
LW
UFA - 2
DET
Athanasiou, Andreas
$3,000,000
C, LW, RW
RFA - 1
NJD
Simmonds, Wayne
$5,000,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 1
MTL
Kovalchuk, Ilya
$700,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
NSH
Granlund, Mikael
$5,750,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
NSH
Sissons, Colton
$2,857,143
RW, C
UFA - 7
LAK
Clifford, Kyle
$800,000
LW
UFA - 1
OTT
Tierney, Chris
$2,937,500
C
RFA - 1
MIN
Donato, Ryan
$1,900,000
RW, LW, C
RFA - 2
MTL
Byron, Paul
$3,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 4
NJD
Coleman, Blake
$1,800,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 2
NSH
Watson, Austin
$1,100,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
NJD
Wood, Miles
$2,750,000
LW
RFA - 3
OTT
Ennis, Tyler
$800,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 1
NYR
Buchnevich, Pavel
$3,250,000
RW, LW
RFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender

Embed Code

  • To display this team on another website or blog, add this iFrame to the appropriate page
  • Customize the height attribute in the iFrame code below to fit your website appropriately. Minimum recommended: 400px.

Text-Embed

Click to Highlight
Jan 20 at 2:11
#1
KFTW
Joined: Jul 2018
Posts: 7,558
Likes: 1,770
This is hard because you included guys with term. So how does a Palmieri vs Kreider stack up since Palmieri has an extra year lol
Hischier4Captain liked this.
Jan 20 at 2:14
#2
Joined: May 2016
Posts: 2,445
Likes: 973
Anyone with a "UFA-1" on their tile is not worth a 1st round pick this year. Zucker, Palmieri, AA, and Tatar are the only guys on this list that you could make an argument for a 1st in return value, IMO.
Hischier4Captain liked this.
Jan 20 at 2:16
#3
Thread Starter
Subbanator
Joined: Jul 2017
Posts: 2,588
Likes: 759
Quoting: csick
This is hard because you included guys with term. So how does a Palmieri vs Kreider stack up since Palmieri has an extra year lol


See and that's whats difficult for me to, because I see people posting Kreider trades for a 1st and good prospect when teams can probably get Zucker or Tatar with term for that and a lil bit more so wanted to see how people valued them
csick liked this.
Jan 20 at 2:17
#4
Joined: Jun 2018
Posts: 3,441
Likes: 1,145
Zucker, Palms, Tatar, and maybe Coleman are the only guys I'd consider giving a first for (on here) though I wouldn't be mad if one of my teams gave a first for Toffoli or Gusev, I just think they can be had for less (sry OTT NYR and DET fans... I would not give a first for Kreider AA or JGP...)
Jan 20 at 2:18
#5
KFTW
Joined: Jul 2018
Posts: 7,558
Likes: 1,770
Quoting: AFOX10900
Zucker, Palms, Tatar, and maybe Coleman are the only guys I'd consider giving a first for (on here) though I wouldn't be mad if one of my teams gave a first for Toffoli or Gusev, I just think they can be had for less (sry OTT NYR and DET fans... I would not give a first for Kreider AA or JGP...)


AA isn't a rental
Hischier4Captain liked this.
Jan 20 at 2:20
#6
Joined: Jun 2018
Posts: 3,441
Likes: 1,145
Quoting: csick
AA isn't a rental


Yeah, i still wouldn't give a first for him, he had a career year last year, and every sign points to him never reaching close to that level again, he brings speed, which is useful, but that's about it
Jan 20 at 2:21
#7
Thread Starter
Subbanator
Joined: Jul 2017
Posts: 2,588
Likes: 759
Quoting: AFOX10900
Yeah, i still wouldn't give a first for him, he had a career year last year, and every sign points to him never reaching close to that level again, he brings speed, which is useful, but that's about it


Got into a debate with a Det fan that was trying to convince me that he was more valuable then Trochek, Im not nearly that high on AA to even give up a 1st for him
AFOX10900 and Hischier4Captain liked this.
Jan 20 at 2:23
#8
KovalchukFor2RDP
Joined: Feb 2019
Posts: 2,865
Likes: 475
How did Sissons get 7 years
Jan 20 at 2:26
#9
arky
Joined: Aug 2016
Posts: 2,012
Likes: 470
Quoting: Subbanator7667
Got into a debate with a Det fan that was trying to convince me that he was more valuable then Trochek, Im not nearly that high on AA to even give up a 1st for him


Though I agree Trocheck is a better player. AA has two years of cost control and I really believe the injury he had at the start of the season never really healed and he was never 100%.

Would I give up a 1st for him but he is intriguing and needs to be watched over the next year and half.
Jan 20 at 2:31
#10
best poster
Joined: Jul 2019
Posts: 1,817
Likes: 1,033
I think these are the guys who can be traded with the first as the key asset:
-Tatar
-Zucker
-Kreider
-Palmieri
-Tierney
-Coleman
Hischier4Captain liked this.
Jan 20 at 2:35
#11
Joined: May 2015
Posts: 16,512
Likes: 4,256
I think more importantly is, how many teams are willing to give up 1sts this year? That number is maybe 3-4 max IMO. Some guys above may be worth 1sts but might not get one just because there are so few teams willing to give up their 1sts.

An alternative to your question could be, how may of these guys are worth the equivalent of a 1st this year? That may be more pertinent because for example if the Habs don't get a 1st for Tatar, i'd be perfectly happy with an offer from Dallas of a guy like Harley.......... Doesn't have to be a 1st round pick.
Subbanator7667 liked this.
Jan 20 at 2:37
#12
Beanmachine
Joined: May 2018
Posts: 608
Likes: 165
Quoting: mondo
I think these are the guys who can be traded with the first as the key asset:
-Tatar
-Zucker
-Kreider
-Palmieri
-Tierney
-Coleman


People need to remember that Mark Stone got a top end prospect and an unconditional 2nd ( and a plug player) and none of those guys above is Mark Stone. Everyone over values their trade chips on this site - I will be amazed if any of the UFA's listed above bring in a first unless it is in the 26-30 range!

The Tatars Zuckers and Palimeris with term should fetch a 1st and b prospects or a top tier prospect and a 2nd or 3rd depending on prospect
CD282 and Hischier4Captain liked this.
Jan 20 at 2:44
#13
Hulk-a-mania
Joined: Jun 2018
Posts: 321
Likes: 63
You could argue that the UFA-1 guys if they were to resign with the team who gets them, the 2nd rounder (should they be worth that) gets moved to a 1st but it most likely wouldn't be for this years draft but in 2021.
Jan 20 at 2:51
#14
best poster
Joined: Jul 2019
Posts: 1,817
Likes: 1,033
Quoting: F50marco
An alternative to your question could be, how may of these guys are worth the equivalent of a 1st this year? That may be more pertinent because for example if the Habs don't get a 1st for Tatar, i'd be perfectly happy with an offer from Dallas of a guy like Harley.......... Doesn't have to be a 1st round pick.


I probably should've stated in my post that the guys I mentioned are worth a 1st or equivalent. It's much more a matter of who actually offers for the players and who is willing to give up assets to the acquire the player.

Quoting: InTreWeTrust
People need to remember that Mark Stone got a top end prospect and an unconditional 2nd ( and a plug player) and none of those guys above is Mark Stone. Everyone over values their trade chips on this site - I will be amazed if any of the UFA's listed above bring in a first unless it is in the 26-30 range!

The Tatars Zuckers and Palimeris with term should fetch a 1st and b prospects or a top tier prospect and a 2nd or 3rd depending on prospect


People need to remember that Mark Stone railroaded the Senators into a trade with Vegas. It's almost as if every NHL trade has some context behind it, and saying a list of players is worth a first is the "baseline" estimate for how much they would go for assuming reasonable demand.

All these players are productive forwards and teams that are looking to go deep into the playoffs; if several teams are offering for a certain player they will more than likely put their first up in the hopes that is within the 26-30.
Jan 20 at 3:39
#15
Joined: Feb 2018
Posts: 519
Likes: 143
Quoting: csick
This is hard because you included guys with term. So how does a Palmieri vs Kreider stack up since Palmieri has an extra year lol


i was thinking the same thing, also i would argue palmieri is worth more as point production is similar but palmieri scores more
Jan 20 at 3:43
#16
Joined: Feb 2018
Posts: 519
Likes: 143
Quoting: InTreWeTrust
People need to remember that Mark Stone got a top end prospect and an unconditional 2nd ( and a plug player) and none of those guys above is Mark Stone. Everyone over values their trade chips on this site - I will be amazed if any of the UFA's listed above bring in a first unless it is in the 26-30 range!

The Tatars Zuckers and Palimeris with term should fetch a 1st and b prospects or a top tier prospect and a 2nd or 3rd depending on prospect


right but brannstrom was the equivalent of a 1st+, meaning he is worth more than vegas's first. i agree with your whole point, just clarifying fetching a first is not equal to stones brannstrom ++

these guys could get a first

stone got more than a first in brannstrom, + a 2nd rounder, plus a plug
InTreWeTrust liked this.
Jan 20 at 3:46
#17
Joined: Feb 2018
Posts: 519
Likes: 143
I'm very pumped that I see a lot of NJ in position to get a good amount back. And then reality sets in and I realize the devils are doomed
 
Reply
To create a post please Login or Register
Question:
Options:
Add Option
Remove Option
Submit Poll