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Krieder to FLA

Created by: mhan63
Initial Creation Date: Jan 22, 2020
Published: Jan 22 at 11:04 am
Team: 2019-20 New York Rangers
Team Explanation
Would FLA be willing to part with 1 of their top prospects for a playoff run this year? Personally, I'd want to target Tippett, but idk if he might be untouchable for the Panthers.
Trades
NYR
  1. Borgström, Henrik
  2. 2020 1st round pick (FLA)
FLA
  1. Kreider, Chris ($2,300,000 retained)
  2. Andersson, Lias
Buyouts
  • Dan Girardi: $3,611,111
  • Kevin Shattenkirk: $1,483,333
  • Ryan Spooner: $300,000
  • Brad Richards: $0
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Chris Kreider: $2,300,000 (49.73%)
  • Vladislav Namestnikov: $750,000 (19%)
Buried
  • Matt Beleskey: $825,000 ($1,900,000)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
NYR
FLA
NYR
DAL
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
NSH
VAN
2021
NYR
NYR
NYR
BUF
NYR
OTT
NYR
NYR
NYR
2022
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
22$81,500,000$76,542,300$0$5,045,000$4,957,700
Left WingCenterRight Wing
NYR
Panarin, Artemi
$11,642,857
LW
NMC
UFA - 7
NYR
Zibanejad, Mika
$5,350,000
C
NMC
UFA - 3
NYR
Buchnevich, Pavel
$3,250,000
RW, LW
RFA - 2
NYR
Lemieux, Brendan
$925,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
NYR
Chytil, Filip
$894,166
LW, C
RFA - 2
NYR
Fast, Jesper
$1,850,000
RW
UFA - 1
NYR
Howden, Brett
$863,333
C
RFA - 2
NYR
Strome, Ryan
$3,100,000
C, RW
RFA - 1
NYR
Kakko, Kaapo
$925,000
RW
RFA - 3
NYR
McKegg, Greg
$750,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
FLA
Borgström, Henrik
$925,000
C
RFA - 1
NYR
Gettinger, Tim
$730,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
NYR
Skjei, Brady
$5,250,000
LD
UFA - 5
NYR
Trouba, Jacob
$8,000,000
RD
UFA - 7
NYR
Lundqvist, Henrik
$8,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 2
NYR
Staal, Marc
$5,700,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 2
NYR
Deangelo, Anthony
$925,000
RD
RFA - 1
NYR
Georgiev, Alexandar
$792,500
G
RFA - 1
NYR
Lindgren, Ryan
$925,000
LD
RFA - 2
NYR
Fox, Adam
$925,000
RD
RFA - 3
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
NYR
Smith, Brendan
$4,350,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 2
NYR
Haley, Micheal
$700,000
C
UFA - 1

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Jan 22 at 11:34
#1
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Way too much for Florida to give up. No.
Jan 22 at 11:39
#2
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A) FLA likely rejects; if a first is coming back for Kreider, not much else will be coming back with it.
B) If FLA wants to make a trade they will have to send back a decent chunk of salary to the other team to stay cap compliant.
Jan 22 at 11:48
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Borgstrom is looking like a bust, not a top prospect. Even trades: Borgstrom for Lias. Kreider for decent 1st. Yet we want a good prospect for Kreider more than picks. Tippett or Noel are the targets
Jan 22 at 11:48
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NY Rangers
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Quoting: rja
A) FLA likely rejects; if a first is coming back for Kreider, not much else will be coming back with it.
B) If FLA wants to make a trade they will have to send back a decent chunk of salary to the other team to stay cap compliant.


Any short term contracts FLA would part with to make them cap compliant? Pysyk maybe?

I think Kreider is going to go for a 1st and a prospect. I'd look at the Kevin Hayes trade last deadline for a comparable.
Jan 22 at 11:52
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Drop Lias and Rangers accept...

1st + Noel will probably be closer though.
Jan 22 at 11:58
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Quoting: DoubleADoubleK
Borgstrom is looking like a bust, not a top prospect. Even trades: Borgstrom for Lias. Kreider for decent 1st. Yet we want a good prospect for Kreider more than picks. Tippett or Noel are the targets


I don't think Borgstrom for Lias is even. Borgstrom has out produced Lias at both the NHL and AHL levels.

As for targeting Tippett, I think FLA would hang on to him because they will probably lose one of Dadonov/Hoffman this offseason, and Tippett could replace the one they lose.
For Acciari, yea he has 18 goals, but only 3 assists for 21 pts in 46 games. His shooting percentage is an absurd 24.7. His career shooting percentage before this season was 8.7%. I'm not interested in a 28 year old career 4th liner who's having a lucky season.
Jan 22 at 12:00
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NY Rangers
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Quoting: Sagecoll
Drop Lias and Rangers accept...

1st + Noel will probably be closer though.


I'd rather have a prospect than Acciari. As I responded to someone else, his shooting percentage is an absurd 24.7%. His career shooting percentage before this season was 8.7%. I'm not interested in a 28 year old career 4th liner who's having a lucky season.
Jan 22 at 12:03
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Quoting: mhan63
Any short term contracts FLA would part with to make them cap compliant? Pysyk maybe?

I think Kreider is going to go for a 1st and a prospect. I'd look at the Kevin Hayes trade last deadline for a comparable.


I probably would not use Hayes as a comparable. Centers historically yield more of a return at the deadline. If Kreider did not start producing at the rate that he has as of late, I probably would have figured a return similar to Zuccarello last year. If NYR receive a first, expect a B prospect to go along with it. I would guess Heponiemi (who has struggled to adjust to NA) or Saarela. Pysyk would make sense to erase the cap issue, but I really do not see FLA making a deal for a forward. They already have a high octane offense. They may look for blue line help or a backup goalie. The only player I can really see going to FLA at the deadline from NYR's roster is Georgiev, and even that I do not see happening.

Quoting: Sagecoll
Drop Lias and Rangers accept...

1st + Noel will probably be closer though.


Doubt it would be Noel. See above for response.
Jan 22 at 4:49
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Quoting: rja
I probably would not use Hayes as a comparable. Centers historically yield more of a return at the deadline. If Kreider did not start producing at the rate that he has as of late, I probably would have figured a return similar to Zuccarello last year. If NYR receive a first, expect a B prospect to go along with it. I would guess Heponiemi (who has struggled to adjust to NA) or Saarela. Pysyk would make sense to erase the cap issue, but I really do not see FLA making a deal for a forward. They already have a high octane offense. They may look for blue line help or a backup goalie. The only player I can really see going to FLA at the deadline from NYR's roster is Georgiev, and even that I do not see happening.



Doubt it would be Noel. See above for response.


Great I'll use Rick Nash as a comp...lol who got more than Hayes....Wouldn't use last year's deadline as a comp since it was entirely oversaturated with Top 6 F's. This year the options are wayyy more limited so the price will naturally return to what it was beforehand.

Where Rick Nash returned a 1st, Lindgren (Bruins recent 2nd rounder), Spooner (a .5 pt/gm player for cheap), and a cap dump.

Now realize Kreider is 4 years younger, better and half the cap hit....lol.

If we're using that model it's 1st + Noel ++
Jan 22 at 5:11
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Quoting: Sagecoll
Great I'll use Rick Nash as a comp...lol who got more than Hayes....Wouldn't use last year's deadline as a comp since it was entirely oversaturated with Top 6 F's. This year the options are wayyy more limited so the price will naturally return to what it was beforehand.

Where Rick Nash returned a 1st, Lindgren (Bruins recent 2nd rounder), Spooner (a .5 pt/gm player for cheap), and a cap dump.

Now realize Kreider is 4 years younger, better and half the cap hit....lol.

If we're using that model it's 1st + Noel ++


Sure but one could easily argue that demand is down, especially with an upcoming deep draft. Nash's return was also higher because, as you mentioned, Rangers were taking on salary (Beleskey, but also Spooner). And Lindgren was expendable if you look at what Bruins still have on the blue line in the minors.

I was only saying historically the prices for wingers are less than centers. I think the best comparison to use is Evander Kane to SJS. I think you might have your expectations a little high and might get disappointed, but hopefully I am wrong.
 
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