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Creating Room this Summer ANA MTL and FLA

Created by: Canucks33
Initial Creation Date: Jan 22, 2020
Published: Jan 22 at 2:00
Team: 2020-21 Vancouver Canucks
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
Höglander, Nils3$925,000
Rathbone, Jack3$925,000
Tryamkin, Nikita1$1,450,000
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Bailey, Justin1$800,000
Boucher, Reid1$800,000
Brisebois, Guillaume2$800,000
Gaudette, Adam2$1,250,000
Goldobin, Nikolay1$800,000
MacEwen, Zack2$800,000
Motte, Tyler1$1,000,000
Sautner, Ashton2$800,000
Virtanen, Jake4$3,000,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Fantenberg, Oscar2$1,000,000
Graovac, Tyler1$800,000
Leivo, Josh2$1,500,000
Markström, Jacob3$6,000,000
Tanev, Christopher3$5,500,000
CREATEDYEARSCAP HIT
Bonuses, Performance1$3,700,000
Trades
VAN
  1. 2021 4th round pick (ANA)
ANA
  1. Sutter, Brandon
  2. Madden, Tyler [Reserve List]
VAN
  1. 2020 5th round pick (MTL)
MTL
  1. Baertschi, Sven
  2. 2021 3rd round pick (VAN)
VAN
  1. 2020 2nd round pick (FLA)
  2. 2021 4th round pick (FLA)
FLA
  1. Stecher, Troy [RFA Rights]
Additional Details:
Any Eastern Conference team willing to give up a similar package of picks.
Buyouts
  • Ryan Spooner: $1,033,333
Recapture Fees
  • Roberto Luongo: $3,035,212
Buried
  • Loui Eriksson: $4,925,000 ($6,000,000)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
VAN
FLA
VAN
VAN
VAN
MTL
VAN
ANA
2021
VAN
VAN
VAN
ANA
FLA
VAN
VAN
VAN
2022
VAN
VAN
VAN
VAN
VAN
VAN
VAN
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
22$81,500,000$82,560,212$1,700,000$3,700,000-$1,060,212
Left WingCenterRight Wing
VAN
Pearson, Tanner
$3,750,000
LW
UFA - 1
VAN
Horvat, Bo
$5,500,000
C
UFA - 3
VAN
Leivo, Josh
$1,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
VAN
Miller, J.T.
$5,250,000
LW
UFA - 3
VAN
Pettersson, Elias
$925,000
C
RFA - 1
VAN
Boeser, Brock
$5,875,000
RW
RFA - 2
VAN
Roussel, Antoine
$3,000,000
LW
NTC
UFA - 2
VAN
Gaudette, Adam
$1,250,000
C
RFA - 1
VAN
Virtanen, Jake
$3,000,000
RW
RFA - 2
VAN
Ferland, Micheal
$3,500,000
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 3
VAN
Beagle, Jay
$3,000,000
C
NTC
UFA - 2
VAN
Motte, Tyler
$1,000,000
LW, C
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
VAN
Edler, Alexander
$6,000,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 1
VAN
Myers, Tyler
$6,000,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 4
VAN
Demko, Thatcher
$1,050,000
G
RFA - 1
VAN
Hughes, Quinn
$916,667
LD
RFA - 1
VAN
Tanev, Christopher
$5,500,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 4
VAN
Markström, Jacob
$6,000,000
G
NMC
UFA - 6
VAN
Fantenberg, Oscar
$1,000,000
LD
UFA
VAN
Tryamkin, Nikita
$1,450,000
LD
RFA
VAN
Benn, Jordie
$2,000,000
LD
UFA - 1
VAN
Rafferty, Brogan
$700,000
RD
RFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Bonuses, Performance
$3,700,000

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Jan 22 at 2:04
#1
Wear your mask
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Just put performance bonuses on IR
Jan 22 at 2:07
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Quoting: MaxDomi13
Just put performance bonuses on IR


Done.

What do you think of the trades and/or signings?
Jan 22 at 2:23
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Brendan Fox
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Notes:
- I don't know if you would have to pay to dump Baertschi. Might be able to do 5th + him for a 5th or something. Minor detail, the idea is right.
- Gaudette needs more. I would think somewhere around 2M or so, for 2-3 years. Similar to the deal of Connor Brown a few years ago.
- One more year is gonna be needed for Markstrom. It sucks because of Demko and DiPietro, but he's gonna want that 4th year because he will get it anywhere else. Again, minor detail.
- Motte, Virtanen, and Leivo all make sense.
- I would sign one of Tyler Madden and Linus Karlsson, and William Lockwood 100% (UFA in August if not signed)

- Interesting one to watch is Tanev. My opinion is that if you are going to trade Stetcher (clears about 3m in RFA money), you should be aiming higher than Tanev. Do you go for someone like Barrie and give him 7M? I don't think so, but it could be an option.
- I do like the contract you gave Tanev, it makes sense even if it is a little bit steep from my preference. If you are keeping Tanev:
- I don't really like moving Stetcher, I would rather see him stay. Honestly I would trade Benn and use the money to sign Stetcher. Leave Fantenberg as the 7th and reunite Stetcher and Tryamkin from a few years back. I love the depth Defence that we could have, but IDK if I trust Fantenberg, Tryamkin, Juolevi, Rafferty, etc. yet. I would sign Stetcher for another year and move him at the deadline if needed. Remember, Edler only has one year left after this.

Also, the cap is projected to go up by about 1M, so that would make up the difference in what I am suggesting. (I'll post my similar ACGM later)
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Jan 22 at 2:29
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Quoting: Canucks33
Done.

What do you think of the trades and/or signings?


I am going to agree with @brenfox31 as to what they said about Markstrom: He may need one more year, but I think give him 5.5 million
Jan 22 at 2:39
#5
First NY Then LA
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I don't think we'd be interested in Tyler Madden even though he seems to be developing into an excellent prospect because we have Steel and Lundestrom well ahead of him and Trevor Zegras at about the same stage, plus Benoit-Olivier Groulx and Antoine Morand coming up on the outside. But stick Jett Woo in there instead and we can talk.

P.S. I think the cap next season will be $83.5MM.
Jan 22 at 7:31
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Quoting: brenfox31
Notes:
- I don't know if you would have to pay to dump Baertschi. Might be able to do 5th + him for a 5th or something. Minor detail, the idea is right.
- Gaudette needs more. I would think somewhere around 2M or so, for 2-3 years. Similar to the deal of Connor Brown a few years ago.
- One more year is gonna be needed for Markstrom. It sucks because of Demko and DiPietro, but he's gonna want that 4th year because he will get it anywhere else. Again, minor detail.
- Motte, Virtanen, and Leivo all make sense.
- I would sign one of Tyler Madden and Linus Karlsson, and William Lockwood 100% (UFA in August if not signed)

- Interesting one to watch is Tanev. My opinion is that if you are going to trade Stetcher (clears about 3m in RFA money), you should be aiming higher than Tanev. Do you go for someone like Barrie and give him 7M? I don't think so, but it could be an option.
- I do like the contract you gave Tanev, it makes sense even if it is a little bit steep from my preference. If you are keeping Tanev:
- I don't really like moving Stetcher, I would rather see him stay. Honestly I would trade Benn and use the money to sign Stetcher. Leave Fantenberg as the 7th and reunite Stetcher and Tryamkin from a few years back. I love the depth Defence that we could have, but IDK if I trust Fantenberg, Tryamkin, Juolevi, Rafferty, etc. yet. I would sign Stetcher for another year and move him at the deadline if needed. Remember, Edler only has one year left after this.

Also, the cap is projected to go up by about 1M, so that would make up the difference in what I am suggesting. (I'll post my similar ACGM later)


Thanks for the reply.

If we don't have to pay anything to dump Baertschi then that's great. I just wanted to guarantee he would be moved.

With Markstrom, I gave him 6 million per to keep the term at 3 years. If he wants 4 years, it will likely have to be below 6 million per. I prioritized the term here.

There's no way we can do everything else you've suggested (Gaudette raise, Tanev replacement, keep Stetcher, etc.). As you can see, we would be tight to the cap even after moving out some considerable cap (Sutter + Baertschi + Stetcher). The only way I can see that being pulled off is if we don't re-sign Tanev, but that just creates a big hole in our defense that can't be replaced. I don't think Benn can be moved unless it's a cap dump type trade given he's been in the pressbox the last little while. Plus he just signed here as a UFA last year.
Jan 22 at 7:33
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Quoting: OldNYIfan
I don't think we'd be interested in Tyler Madden even though he seems to be developing into an excellent prospect because we have Steel and Lundestrom well ahead of him and Trevor Zegras at about the same stage, plus Benoit-Olivier Groulx and Antoine Morand coming up on the outside. But stick Jett Woo in there instead and we can talk.

P.S. I think the cap next season will be $83.5MM.


Fair enough. Madden can also play the wing and did so for team USA at the WJC last year. The Canucks can't afford to give up Woo because we are very thin on young defenseman, especially right handed ones.

Do you have a source for why you think the cap will increase next year or is that just a feeling?
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Jan 22 at 10:40
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Quoting: Canucks33
Fair enough. Madden can also play the wing and did so for team USA at the WJC last year. The Canucks can't afford to give up Woo because we are very thin on young defenseman, especially right handed ones.

Do you have a source for why you think the cap will increase next year or is that just a feeling?


Purely a visceral feeling, based upon the cap's past history and last year's rise.

I agree with you about Woo; that's just wishful thinking on my part because Anaheim is even weaker at RhD than Vancouver.

Here's hoping you guys finish first or second in the Division even though we're ostensibly rivals!
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