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Two Wingers DET and MIN

Created by: Arom5477
Initial Creation Date: Jan 23, 2020
Published: Jan 23 at 10:38 am
Team: 2019-20 Pittsburgh Penguins
Trades
PIT
  1. 2020 3rd round pick (LAK)
Becomes a 2020 2nd round pick if Galchenyuk is traded before the Trade Deadline.
LAK
  1. Galchenyuk, Alex
PIT
  1. Zucker, Jason
MIN
  1. Bjugstad, Nick
  2. Hållander, Filip
  3. 2020 3rd round pick (PIT)
Additional Details:
Becomes a 2020 1st round pick if PIT goes to the conference finals.
PIT
  1. Athanasiou, Andreas
DET
  1. Poulin, Samuel
  2. 2021 2nd round pick (PIT)
Buried
  • Casey DeSmith: $175,000 ($1,250,000)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
PIT
LAK
PIT
PIT
PIT
2021
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
ANA
2022
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$72,556,625$132,500$3,700,000$8,943,375
Left WingCenterRight Wing
DET
Athanasiou, Andreas
$3,000,000
C, LW, RW
RFA - 1
PIT
Crosby, Sidney
$8,700,000
C
NMC
UFA - 6
PIT
Simon, Dominik
$750,000
RW, LW
RFA - 1
MIN
Zucker, Jason
$5,500,000
LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 4
PIT
Malkin, Evgeni
$9,500,000
C
NMC
UFA - 3
PIT
Rust, Bryan
$3,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 3
PIT
Kahun, Dominik
$925,000
LW, RW, C
RFA - 1
PIT
McCann, Jared
$1,250,000
LW, C
RFA - 1
PIT
Hörnqvist, Patric
$5,300,000
RW
NTC
UFA - 4
PIT
Aston-Reese, Zach
$1,000,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
PIT
Blueger, Teddy
$750,000
C, LW
RFA - 2
PIT
Tanev, Brandon
$3,500,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 6
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
PIT
Dumoulin, Brian
$4,100,000
LD
UFA - 4
PIT
Letang, Kris
$7,250,000
RD
NMC NTC
UFA - 3
PIT
Murray, Matt
$3,750,000
G
RFA - 1
PIT
Pettersson, Marcus
$874,125
LD
UFA - 1
PIT
Schultz, Justin
$5,500,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 1
PIT
Jarry, Tristan
$675,000
G
RFA - 1
PIT
Johnson, Jack
$3,250,000
LD
UFA - 4
PIT
Marino, John
$925,000
D
RFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
PIT
Ruhwedel, Chad
$700,000
RD
UFA - 2
PIT
Guentzel, Jake
$6,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 5
PIT
Riikola, Juuso
$850,000
D
RFA - 1
PIT
Blandisi, Joseph
$700,000
C
RFA - 1

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Jan 23 at 10:56
#1
Chiggy
Joined: May 2017
Posts: 814
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Zucker is going to cost more than that. He's good, has a reasonable cap hit, and is signed for 4 more years.
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Jan 23 at 11:01
#2
Joined: Apr 2018
Posts: 3,498
Likes: 923
Poulin, 2nd for Athanasiou. Poulin alone is an overpay for Athanasiou. Heck, Athanasiou is a non-physical, not defensive, 10g 40pt guy, even though he gets 2nd line time... the 2nd alone might even be overpay. He is not a difference maker. He bumps nobody from the Pens top 2 lines. He is barely out-producing Galchenyuk, while managing to have the worse +/- in the league.

Counter with a 3rd for Athanasiou. Basically the same as you did for Galchenyuk since they are on par.
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Jan 23 at 11:05
#3
Joined: Jun 2017
Posts: 4,706
Likes: 2,755
Quoting: Chigurrhh
Zucker is going to cost more than that. He's good, has a reasonable cap hit, and is signed for 4 more years.


I don't think Penguins fans realize he could easily be a 30 goal scorer with potential for 35+ goals next to Crosby. Look at the one season Zucker had a true playmaker feeding him the puck (Granlund), he scored 33 goals. Zuccarello is a good playmaker, but not as good as Granlund was for us. Crosby is way better than Granlund, so the sky would potentially be the limit for Zucker.

The trade isn't bad, but if I'm Guerin I only say yes if we get Hallander and your 1st without a condition. Whether GMJR does that or not is a big question...
Jan 23 at 11:07
#4
Joined: Apr 2018
Posts: 3,498
Likes: 923
Quoting: Chigurrhh
Zucker is going to cost more than that. He's good, has a reasonable cap hit, and is signed for 4 more years.


Someone else can pay it then. $5.5M hit for a 45 point, non-physical, meh-defensively guy is not what the pens need on their cap. If the Wild want more than Bjugstad, Hallander, 3rd then they would need to start retaining.

When the Pens played Minnesota a week ago I told Pens fans to pay attention to Zucker. While it was obviously just one game, it was fitting that the only time that he was on camera was when it panned past him to where action was. Top line time and he was invisible.
Jan 23 at 11:09
#5
Chiggy
Joined: May 2017
Posts: 814
Likes: 241
Quoting: TanSor
I don't think Penguins fans realize he could easily be a 30 goal scorer with potential for 35+ goals next to Crosby. Look at the one season Zucker had a true playmaker feeding him the puck (Granlund), he scored 33 goals. Zuccarello is a good playmaker, but not as good as Granlund was for us. Crosby is way better than Granlund, so the sky would potentially be the limit for Zucker.

The trade isn't bad, but if I'm Guerin I only say yes if we get Hallander and your 1st without a condition. Whether GMJR does that or not is a big question...


It has to at least start with a first. If there's a conditional on a pick, it would be for an additional pick. Scoring aside, Zucker is also a speedy winger that has good defensive impact. Fits Sullivan's system and preferred style perfectly.
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Jan 23 at 11:10
#6
Chiggy
Joined: May 2017
Posts: 814
Likes: 241
Quoting: Yojimbo
Someone else can pay it then. $5.5M hit for a 45 point, non-physical, meh-defensively guy is not what the pens need on their cap. If the Wild want more than Bjugstad, Hallander, 3rd then they would need to start retaining.

When the Pens played Minnesota a week ago I told Pens fans to pay attention to Zucker. While it was obviously just one game, it was fitting that the only time that he was on camera was when it panned past him to where action was. Top line time and he was invisible.


Meh defensively is false. He is a very good all-around player. Basing your evaluation off one game of not noticing him is pretty silly.
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Jan 23 at 11:23
#7
Joined: Jun 2015
Posts: 298
Likes: 27
Quoting: Yojimbo
Poulin, 2nd for Athanasiou. Poulin alone is an overpay for Athanasiou. Heck, Athanasiou is a non-physical, not defensive, 10g 40pt guy, even though he gets 2nd line time... the 2nd alone might even be overpay. He is not a difference maker. He bumps nobody from the Pens top 2 lines. He is barely out-producing Galchenyuk, while managing to have the worse +/- in the league.

Counter with a 3rd for Athanasiou. Basically the same as you did for Galchenyuk since they are on par.


This is a great point...makes me wonder why everyone trashes Galchenyuk's value, but not Athanasiou? Same age, similar PPG. Galchenyuk actually has a ton more NHL experience and goals...Both struggling this year.

Now I don't even want Athanasiou...he's gonna be the same player as Galchenyuk and wind up being in Sullivan's doghouse and stuck to the 4th line.
Jan 23 at 11:30
#8
Joined: Jun 2019
Posts: 2,637
Likes: 852
No chance the LA Kings give up a 3rd for galchenyuk which would convey to a 2nd if they traded him. GTFO with that crap lol. you would be paying the kings a conditional 3rd which turns into a 2nd if he wasnt traded. Kings are in rebuild. they dont need to pay for a rental.
Jan 23 at 12:23
#9
Joined: Apr 2018
Posts: 3,498
Likes: 923
Quoting: Ttrexler99
This is a great point...makes me wonder why everyone trashes Galchenyuk's value, but not Athanasiou? Same age, similar PPG. Galchenyuk actually has a ton more NHL experience and goals...Both struggling this year.

Now I don't even want Athanasiou...he's gonna be the same player as Galchenyuk and wind up being in Sullivan's doghouse and stuck to the 4th line.


Because clickbait bloggers post that Athanasiou has value and that Galchenyuk doesn't, therefore fans "opinions" are that Athanasiou has value and that Galchenyuk doesn't.
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Jan 23 at 12:26
#10
Joined: Apr 2018
Posts: 3,498
Likes: 923
Quoting: Chigurrhh
Meh defensively is false. He is a very good all-around player. Basing your evaluation off one game of not noticing him is pretty silly.


I didn't base my evaluation on that but I know a lot of people are just going for Zucker because they see his name in "rumors". I just reminded them to pay attention to him that game, and he didn't fail me at all. He did exactly what I expected of him, nothing to write home about, nothing to give up a 1st for, nothing to pay $5.5M cap hit for.
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Jan 23 at 5:53
#11
Joined: Jan 2020
Posts: 425
Likes: 173
Quoting: Yojimbo
Someone else can pay it then. $5.5M hit for a 45 point, non-physical, meh-defensively guy is not what the pens need on their cap. If the Wild want more than Bjugstad, Hallander, 3rd then they would need to start retaining.

When the Pens played Minnesota a week ago I told Pens fans to pay attention to Zucker. While it was obviously just one game, it was fitting that the only time that he was on camera was when it panned past him to where action was. Top line time and he was invisible.


Well get ready to pay it because he’s gonna be a Pen
 
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