Sj 3rd you got a deal

This one makes sense to me

I’d do it

How about we meet in the middle and say DET 3rd??

Yeah...no.

Why the hell would they do this deal? Hirose can be had for Dallas' 3rd or the Rangers' 4th round pick. Wasting a bullet like Georgiev on a relatively meager deal is fruitless.

Dreger saying Kappenen won't get it done. (speculation - hot take)

Speculation says Bracco + other assets aren't enough.

Larry Brooks speculates Lebanc for Georgiev straightup.

Therefore, Auston Matthews for Georgiev is the only answer.

Bruh if Hirose could be had for that, you think someone wouldn't have done that trade already? He's a 23-year-old who's barely scratched the surface of his potential. Would be a full roster player once the Rangers trade some assets. They have zero LW depth. Gets them a decent pick too.

This is a home run for both sides. It also is very similar to trades in the past that have been made for goalies of Georgiev's caliber.

Lol if you can get lebanc for him id do it yesterday

Yeah Rangers decline.

Hirose: 0.54 Even Strength pts/60 as a 23 year old Winger with Frans Nielsen and Brendan Perlini as his most common linemates
Lias Andersson: 0.47 Even Strength pts/60 as a 21 year old Center with Brendan Smith and Michael Haley as his most common linemates.

And this is the guy you want to headline the deal?

There are a few possible options from Detroit : Jonatan Berggren and Robert Mastrosimone.

Hirose just doesn't have the ceiling to be considered here. Georgiev's value is around a late 1st.

I will accept your counter offer, good deal

Pure speculation from Brooks, I do not see SJS parting with Lebanc for Georgiev. I obviously would be happy if they did but i doubt it.

Is there anyway they can get lunqvist gone and not piss everyone off

I agree and this is the exception you were talking about.

That Washington pick is most likely going to be one of the last 4 of the round. So I don't think it matters.

Bruh, alongside the fact that your reasoning is pourous, as a team that is full of passers, adding one more sounds like the exact thing they need..right?

Please, do not sell me on the notion that this is a good idea. His .54 even strength points/60 can be an asset; but, his points are a result of 76% primary assists. So, on a team where Panarin, Buchnevich, Strome, Fast, Howden and all but one of the defensemen (Staal) generate their points on primary assists, you want to add one more passer, and utilize a great asset in Georgiev on such a little deal?

Yeah..no.

I'm sorry I don't understand your reasoning one bit. It's insatiably nitpicky. What do you want for Georgiev? An established 30-goal scorer? This is his value, like it or not. Young roster player and decent pick.

Also, using primary assists as a negative is insane reasoning. I don't see how Howden is related, he has one 5v5 primary assist this year. Fast isn't in the top 5 amongst forwards in 5v5 primary assists. Your reasoning is flawed by a country mile. Let's not forget that Fast could be gone in the offseason/trade deadline, and Kreider (who's fourth in 5v5 primary assists) could be gone too. That's a lot of offense on the wing that needs to be filled. I don't see why Hirose can't be that guy.

He's got decent possession stats and his isolated offensive impact is strong for a guy with that experience. I think you're wildly overlooking his value for a rebuild and overvaluing Georgiev as a trade piece. Recent trades for goalies of his age/stats show that this is what the return should look like.

I considered them but the Rangers have made it pretty clear that they're looking for a roster player in the deal. If it were one of those two, getting a 2nd or 3rd round pick becomes much less likely.

Wow! So wrong. Nitpicky, my arse. Flip this deal, and you would scream bloody murder that Georgiev was being undersold. You might want and even believe that this is meeting the price of a solid goalie to reset your franchise with, but not nearly at such a low return. While your 2nd round pick will be assuredly high (at this rate, 32nd overall), the player doesn't meet the team's needs in return.

Trying to pass one dollar off as a $50, still means you're $49 short. Let's not kid ourselves: you're asking the Rangers in your proposal to take "some" in a trade, when "more" is the right value.

What makes this response especially hilarious is that I am a Rangers fan.

I don't think Detroit has the horses to get something done then. Unless they want to trade for something like Veleno straight up.

You can probably get a good haul from a team like Minnesota. 6th worst SV% in the league playing behind a Very Very good Defense. No real great goaltending prospects in the pool. Would be an almost certain playoff team with Georgiev.

I could see something structured around their 1st or a 2nd + Khovanov.

I really doubt that DET becomes the eventual winner in the Georgiev sweepstakes but I thought this was an interesting trade for both sides and it works well. Khovanov is great but I'd bet MIN wants to keep him so they have some Russians in the room for Kaprizov. They're having enough trouble convincing him to come over as it is. Plus, that's the same problem as DET. The Rangers are looking for a player that they can insert into the lineup immediately. Khovanov does not fit that bill.

Jordan Greenway is a guy I could see the Rangers targeting in a deal with the Wild. Similar structured deal, high-ish pick with Greenway.

All the more reason to look at the proposal, and ask "what are they seeing that I'm not?"

but that's the thing...Greenway isn't a top 6 player. You need to either get a 1st or a high ceiling player. I think you're holding on too closely to the NHL ready part of it...You don't get a lower ceiling player because he's closer to the NHL.

Oh man...I really don't think Georgiev is getting a top-6 player. That's a bit rich, no?

Top 6 ceiling...