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Georgiev To DET

Created by: jbigs11
Team: 2019-20 New York Rangers
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 24, 2020
Published: Jan. 24, 2020
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Hirose can slot right into the Rangers lineup, especially when the Rangers eventually trade Kreider. One-for-one isn't enough to get it done, but the inclusion of the WSH 2nd makes this a bit more ideal. Could honestly be swapped with SJ 3rd or DET 3rd as both should be higher in the round.
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  1. Hirose, Taro
  2. 2020 2nd round pick (WSH)
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2020
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22$81,500,000$78,238,966$0$5,762,500$3,261,034
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$3,250,000$3,250,000
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Jan. 25, 2020 at 2:05 a.m.
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Quoting: Sagecoll
Top 6 ceiling...


I had this written out elsewhere so I didn't just type this but these are some comparable goalie trades, similar to Georgiev. Potential future starter, <30 years old. Age then stats at trade time are shown in parentheses. For reference, here are Georgiev’s comparables (23 / 23 GP, .910 SV%, 3.11 GAA). What makes Georgiev different that he's getting a top-six ceiling player?

6/22/18 Brooks Orpik, Philipp Grubauer (26 / 35 GP, .923 SV%, 2.35 GAA) <> 2018 2nd Round Pick
2/21/18 Darcy Kuemper (27 / 19 GP, .932 SV%, 2.33 GAA) <> Tobias Reider, Scott Wedgewood
2/19/18 Petr Mrazek [$2 mil retained] (25 / 22 GP, .910 SV%, 2.89 GAA) <> 2018 3rd Round Pick*, 2019 3rd Round Pick*
6/23/17 Derek Stepan, Antti Raanta (28 / 30 GP, .922 SV%, 2.26 GAA) <> 2017 1st Round Pick, Tony DeAngelo
4/28/17 Scott Darling (28 / 32 GP, .924 SV%, 2.38 GAA) <> 2017 3rd Round Pick
6/20/16 Frederik Andersen (26 / 43 GP, .919 SV%, 2.30 GAA) <> 2016 1st Round Pick, 2017 2nd Round Pick*
6/30/16 Martin Jones (23 / 15 GP, .906 SV%, 2.24 GAA) <> Sean Kuraly, 2016 1st Round Pick
6/27/15 Cam Talbot (27 / 36 GP, .926 SV%, 2.21 GAA) <> 2015 3rd Round Pick, 2015 2nd Round Pick, 2015 7th Round Pick
6/27/15 Eddie Lack (27 / 41 GP, .921 SV%, 2.45 GAA) <> 2015 3rd Round Pick, 2016 7th Round Pick
5/1/14 Jaroslav Halak (28 / 52 GP, .921 SV%, 2.25 GAA) <> 2014 4th Round Pick
3/4/14 Viktor Fasth (31 / 5 GP, .885 SV%, 2.95 GAA) <> 2015 3rd Round Pick, 2014 5th Round Pick
6/30/13 Cory Schneider (26 / 30 GP, .927 SV%, 2.11 SV% <> 2013 1st Round Pick
6/23/13 Jonathan Bernier (24 / 14 GP, .922 SV%, 1.87 GAA) <> Ben Scrivens, Matt Fratin, 2015 2nd Round Pick
4/3/13 Steve Mason (24 / 13 GP, .899 SV%, 2.95 GAA) <> Michael Leighton, 2015 3rd Round Pick
6/22/12 Sergei Bobrovsky (23 / 29 GP, .899 SV%, 3.02 GAA) <> 2013 4th Round Pick, 2012 2nd Round Pick, 2012 4th Round Pick
2/26/12 Ben Bishop (24 / 7 GP, .899 SV%, 2,77 GAA) <> 2013 2nd Round Pick
7/1/12 Semyon Varlamov (22 / 27 GP, .924 SV%, 2.23 GAA) <> 2012 1st Round Pick, 2012 2nd Round Pick
Jan. 25, 2020 at 5:49 a.m.
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I had this written out elsewhere so I didn't just type this but these are some comparable goalie trades, similar to Georgiev. Potential future starter, <30 years old. Age then stats at trade time are shown in parentheses. For reference, here are Georgiev’s comparables (23 / 23 GP, .910 SV%, 3.11 GAA). What makes Georgiev different that he's getting a top-six ceiling player?

6/22/18 Brooks Orpik, Philipp Grubauer (26 / 35 GP, .923 SV%, 2.35 GAA) <> 2018 2nd Round Pick
2/21/18 Darcy Kuemper (27 / 19 GP, .932 SV%, 2.33 GAA) <> Tobias Reider, Scott Wedgewood
2/19/18 Petr Mrazek [$2 mil retained] (25 / 22 GP, .910 SV%, 2.89 GAA) <> 2018 3rd Round Pick*, 2019 3rd Round Pick*
6/23/17 Derek Stepan, Antti Raanta (28 / 30 GP, .922 SV%, 2.26 GAA) <> 2017 1st Round Pick, Tony DeAngelo
4/28/17 Scott Darling (28 / 32 GP, .924 SV%, 2.38 GAA) <> 2017 3rd Round Pick
6/20/16 Frederik Andersen (26 / 43 GP, .919 SV%, 2.30 GAA) <> 2016 1st Round Pick, 2017 2nd Round Pick*
6/30/16 Martin Jones (23 / 15 GP, .906 SV%, 2.24 GAA) <> Sean Kuraly, 2016 1st Round Pick
6/27/15 Cam Talbot (27 / 36 GP, .926 SV%, 2.21 GAA) <> 2015 3rd Round Pick, 2015 2nd Round Pick, 2015 7th Round Pick
6/27/15 Eddie Lack (27 / 41 GP, .921 SV%, 2.45 GAA) <> 2015 3rd Round Pick, 2016 7th Round Pick
5/1/14 Jaroslav Halak (28 / 52 GP, .921 SV%, 2.25 GAA) <> 2014 4th Round Pick
3/4/14 Viktor Fasth (31 / 5 GP, .885 SV%, 2.95 GAA) <> 2015 3rd Round Pick, 2014 5th Round Pick
6/30/13 Cory Schneider (26 / 30 GP, .927 SV%, 2.11 SV% <> 2013 1st Round Pick
6/23/13 Jonathan Bernier (24 / 14 GP, .922 SV%, 1.87 GAA) <> Ben Scrivens, Matt Fratin, 2015 2nd Round Pick
4/3/13 Steve Mason (24 / 13 GP, .899 SV%, 2.95 GAA) <> Michael Leighton, 2015 3rd Round Pick
6/22/12 Sergei Bobrovsky (23 / 29 GP, .899 SV%, 3.02 GAA) <> 2013 4th Round Pick, 2012 2nd Round Pick, 2012 4th Round Pick
2/26/12 Ben Bishop (24 / 7 GP, .899 SV%, 2,77 GAA) <> 2013 2nd Round Pick
7/1/12 Semyon Varlamov (22 / 27 GP, .924 SV%, 2.23 GAA) <> 2012 1st Round Pick, 2012 2nd Round Pick


Sure I can elaborate:

The 2 major metrics for evaluating goaltenders properly are dFSV% and GSAx. Over the last 3 seasons, among all goaltenders Georgiev ranks in the top 15 in both.

That's a good foundation because it gives us something to measure against with a nice large sample size. Over the last 10 years there have been 3 goalies to put up those numbers (well 4 if we count Martin Jones but he was traded after 2 NHL seasons) and have been traded. They are:

Philip Grubauer: Traded at age 26 with Brooks Orpik (equivalent of a 1st or 2nd rounder depending on your valuation - reference: Marleau cost a 1st and the cap hit difference was less than a mil) for a 2nd.
Cory Schneider: Traded at age 27 for 12th Overall Pick.
Frederick Anderson: Traded at age 26 for a 1st and 2nd Round pick.
Martin Jones: Traded at age 25 for a 1st round pick and Sean Kuraly.

Now Georgiev is younger (23) meaning his rights with the team are held for longer. That would inherently make him more valuable. The lowest any comparable players were dealt for is ~2 2nd rounders (and even that might be a low estimate). Really Georgiev's value is around a 1st heh.

Again, just using the stats here and the comparables, these aren't opinions.

Georgiev from 21-23 is basically putting up close to the same performance that Grubbauer had from 24-26. That's pretty crazy.
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