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Team: 2020-21 Boston Bruins
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 28, 2020
Published: Jan. 28, 2020
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3$3,000,000
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2$1,000,000
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5$7,250,000
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  1. Palmieri, Kyle ($2,325,000 retained)
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  1. Moore, John
  2. Vaakanainen, Urho
  3. 2020 1st round pick (BOS)
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Jan. 28, 2020 at 10:51 a.m.
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I don’t see Vaak getting moved for anyone with the uncertainty of both Krug unsigned and Chara could retire
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Jan. 28, 2020 at 11:17 a.m.
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I don’t see Vaak getting moved for anyone with the uncertainty of both Krug unsigned and Chara could retire


Exactly
Jan. 28, 2020 at 11:24 a.m.
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Obviously the Bruins are in “Win Now” mode, and in the desperation to stack the odds, a GM will pay more. If you were a GM for a team failing to make the playoffs, and Don Sweeney called about a player, and you know he wants to win now, that player’s value suddenly got higher.

In this above scenario, I think it is an overpayment. However, it is cost the Bruins Vaakanainen to win the Cup it will be done. Don Sweeney and the Bruins are not worried about next season. The are focused on the now.
Jan. 28, 2020 at 11:49 a.m.
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Quoting: Hawksince71
Obviously the Bruins are in “Win Now” mode, and in the desperation to stack the odds, a GM will pay more. If you were a GM for a team failing to make the playoffs, and Don Sweeney called about a player, and you know he wants to win now, that player’s value suddenly got higher.

In this above scenario, I think it is an overpayment. However, it is cost the Bruins Vaakanainen to win the Cup it will be done. Don Sweeney and the Bruins are not worried about next season. The are focused on the now.



And that is the difference between a fan and a GM. Fan only thinks now. GM thinks both now and future. And why fans never understand why teams make the moves they do or the ones they don’t.
Jan. 28, 2020 at 12:08 p.m.
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HUUUUUGE OVERPAY!!! Bruins say no 1000 times

Also krug would take about 6.75 in boston (not over 7 mil)
and Griz and Debrusks deals are slightly higher paying than what you have, even for the bridge deal
Jan. 28, 2020 at 12:25 p.m.
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HUUUUUGE OVERPAY!!! Bruins say no 1000 times

Also krug would take about 6.75 in boston (not over 7 mil)
and Griz and Debrusks deals are slightly higher paying than what you have, even for the bridge deal



Lol, there you go again. That is actually pretty fair value for a 30 goal scorer with term that they are retaining on. I would not do it. But it’s fair.
Jan. 28, 2020 at 1:08 p.m.
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Lol, there you go again. That is actually pretty fair value for a 30 goal scorer with term that they are retaining on. I would not do it. But it’s fair.


Wrong, everyone is undervaluing Urho... He is a very solid top 4 defensive prospect, and could easily shoot up. The 1st is a late first, so im not gonna say to take that out or anything.
I am not a homer, i am just being realistic
Lol what do you mean "there you go again". sorry i like to try to keep people from undervaluing all bruins players I guess?

Want a good trade:
1st, Moore, and Zboril
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Palmeri 50% retained
Jan. 28, 2020 at 1:16 p.m.
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Wrong, everyone is undervaluing Urho... He is a very solid top 4 defensive prospect, and could easily shoot up. The 1st is a late first, so im not gonna say to take that out or anything.
I am not a homer, i am just being realistic
Lol what do you mean "there you go again". sorry i like to try to keep people from undervaluing all bruins players I guess?

Want a good trade:
1st, Moore, and Zboril
for
Palmeri 50% retained


Urho is. Nobody is undervaluing him.

Not the point. You undervalue players from other teams and expect them to be happy with 75 cents on the dollar in return.

If say Hurricanes offered 2nd and Mcginn for Krejci with full retention you’d lose your **** about it being a ripoff, yet that is what you expect to pay someone else. ??‍♂️

Drop the retention on that and maybe the Devils bite. Doubt it. I would not take late 1st and Zboril for him if i’m them. Moore does not make up the difference and the entire offer does not get retention on a player with term. The value is not there for a player they don’t need to trade.
Jan. 28, 2020 at 1:35 p.m.
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Urho is. Nobody is undervaluing him.

Not the point. You undervalue players from other teams and expect them to be happy with 75 cents on the dollar in return.

If say Hurricanes offered 2nd and Mcginn for Krejci with full retention you’d lose your **** about it being a ripoff, yet that is what you expect to pay someone else. ??‍♂️

Drop the retention on that and maybe the Devils bite. Doubt it. I would not take late 1st and Zboril for him if i’m them. Moore does not make up the difference and the entire offer does not get retention on a player with term. The value is not there for a player they don’t need to trade.


Lol yeah no crap if its a bad deal like your krejci one that would be like the bruins offering a 2nd and blidh for palmeri, yeah its a bad deal. But a 1st, zboril and Moore for palmeri is 10000% not a bad deal
Jan. 28, 2020 at 2:49 p.m.
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Lol yeah no crap if its a bad deal like your krejci one that would be like the bruins offering a 2nd and blidh for palmeri, yeah its a bad deal. But a 1st, zboril and Moore for palmeri is 10000% not a bad deal



It’s less than they paid for Nash who was not as productive and and rental.

Again I would not touch it if I’m NJ. And you would not either if you were their GM. ??‍♂️

The OP was fair. Not a good idea for Boston. But it was fair. Not wanting to pay it is fine and understandable. Calling it a huge overpayment is ridiculous..
Jan. 28, 2020 at 3:19 p.m.
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It’s less than they paid for Nash who was not as productive and and rental.

Again I would not touch it if I’m NJ. And you would not either if you were their GM. ??‍♂️

The OP was fair. Not a good idea for Boston. But it was fair. Not wanting to pay it is fine and understandable. Calling it a huge overpayment is ridiculous..


They paid more for nash because they were getting rid of beleskey as well. even though they retained half.
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Jan. 28, 2020 at 3:26 p.m.
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They paid more for nash because they were getting rid of beleskey as well. even though they retained half.


And NYR retained half of Nash. Which was more than Beleskey in year one.

An offer of late 1st/Zboril/Moore like likely not enough without retention. With NJ retaining on a player with term. Hell no. A team retaining on a player whose contract is expiring is not a big deal. Retaining on term is huge.

Zboril does not have much trade value and Moore has less.
Jan. 28, 2020 at 3:41 p.m.
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It’s less than they paid for Nash who was not as productive and and rental.

Again I would not touch it if I’m NJ. And you would not either if you were their GM. ??‍♂️

The OP was fair. Not a good idea for Boston. But it was fair. Not wanting to pay it is fine and understandable. Calling it a huge overpayment is ridiculous..


Of course if i were their GM i wouldnt touch it cuz its amazing.
However, If i were the GM of the devils, I would 100% trade palmeri (and retain 50%) for John Moore, a 2nd, and Zboril or JFK or like Lauzon. ((If that was the deal given to me))
Then I would trade John Moore for a 3rd rounder.

Also yeah the Nash deal was terrible for the bruins and i hated it the second it came out. Bruins should not have included spooner OR they shouldnt have retained any of Beleskys deal. Doing both was ridiculous
Jan. 28, 2020 at 3:52 p.m.
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Of course if i were their GM i wouldnt touch it cuz its amazing.
However, If i were the GM of the devils, I would 100% trade palmeri (and retain 50%) for John Moore, a 2nd, and Zboril or JFK or like Lauzon. ((If that was the deal given to me))
Then I would trade John Moore for a 3rd rounder.

Also yeah the Nash deal was terrible for the bruins and i hated it the second it came out. Bruins should not have included spooner OR they shouldnt have retained any of Beleskys deal. Doing both was ridiculous


Well we wish you were GM of the Devils because 2nd/Zboril/JFK with retention is great deal for Bruins. Not so much for NJ.

I did not like Nash deal either. Spooner was garbage , he and retention on both Nash and Beleskey was to make financials work.
Jan. 28, 2020 at 3:55 p.m.
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Well we wish you were GM of the Devils because 2nd/Zboril/JFK with retention is great deal for Bruins. Not so much for NJ.

I did not like Nash deal either. Spooner was garbage , he and retention on both Nash and Beleskey was to make financials work.


man i had a buddy that kept telling me spooner would be good. Was hilarious when they traded him and then he spiraled out of the league.
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Jan. 28, 2020 at 4:19 p.m.
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Well we wish you were GM of the Devils because 2nd/Zboril/JFK with retention is great deal for Bruins. Not so much for NJ.

I did not like Nash deal either. Spooner was garbage , he and retention on both Nash and Beleskey was to make financials work.


The devils, who are looking again to tank, dont want two pretty good prospects and a 2nd rounder for a player who they may lose next offseason anyway?? The devils certainly dont want u as gm man.

You tend to have an overconfidence issue, like everything you say is somehow right or "the law".

You are not right here. This is bad for the bruins and too good for the devils. My deal is good for both teams and would be good for both teams.
As far as financials, you are wrong still, the rangers had the space to take on his deal for the next two years or so, and the fact that the bruins retained any of it was annoying. They also didnt need the ragners to retain any of the nash salary due to the cap rules, and the fact that he was a UFA at the end of the year.
Jan. 28, 2020 at 5:25 p.m.
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The devils, who are looking again to tank, dont want two pretty good prospects and a 2nd rounder for a player who they may lose next offseason anyway?? The devils certainly dont want u as gm man.

You tend to have an overconfidence issue, like everything you say is somehow right or "the law".

You are not right here. This is bad for the bruins and too good for the devils. My deal is good for both teams and would be good for both teams.
As far as financials, you are wrong still, the rangers had the space to take on his deal for the next two years or so, and the fact that the bruins retained any of it was annoying. They also didnt need the ragners to retain any of the nash salary due to the cap rules, and the fact that he was a UFA at the end of the year.



I said the OP trade was not good for the Bruins multiple times. I said it was fair value. The 2 are not mutually exclusive.

Lol. Well if I was GM of NJ I would not settle for a below average return when I can get a better deal. So.... I’m sure they would not mind. Zboril does not have much trade value and is no longer a “good prospect”. JFK is, but who knows if he wants to be over here anymore and has not exactly torn up a 3rd rate league. Nope. Easy no from NJ. Can do so much better. Same with your original offer. Zboril is worth no more than a 3rd if that. Moore is worth a 4th or 5th. Meh. A 1st and nothing I want. Pass. 15 other teams will be interested and I don’t have to move him. Certainly not taking less than he is worth.

Sure...they could have. Wouldn’t tho. The way it was worked was the only way NYR was willing to take Beleskey off our hands.
Jan. 28, 2020 at 10:09 p.m.
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I said the OP trade was not good for the Bruins multiple times. I said it was fair value. The 2 are not mutually exclusive.

Lol. Well if I was GM of NJ I would not settle for a below average return when I can get a better deal. So....I’m sure they would not mind. Zboril does not have much trade value and is no longer a “good prospect”. JFK is, but who knows if he wants to be over here anymore and has not exactly torn up a 3rd rate league. Nope. Easy no from NJ. Can do so much better. Same with your original offer. Zboril is worth no more than a 3rd if that. Moore is worth a 4th or 5th. Meh. A 1st and nothing I want. Pass. 15 other teams will be interested and I don’t have to move him. Certainly not taking less than he is worth.

Sure...they could have. Wouldn’t tho. The way it was worked was the only way NYR was willing to take Beleskey off our hands.
 
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