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Team of players whose value is wayyyy off by their respective fanbases

Created by: AndrewLadd
Team: 2019-20 Custom Team
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 28, 2020
Published: Jan. 28, 2020
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
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There’s probably a better way of wording the title, so I hope it makes sense.
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
19$81,500,000$50,075,000$0$215,000$31,425,000
Left WingCentreRight Wing
Logo of the Minnesota Wild
$5,500,000$5,500,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$3,100,000$3,100,000
C
UFA - 1
Logo of the Anaheim Ducks
$2,600,000$2,600,000
RW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$3,400,000$3,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 4
Logo of the New York Rangers
$3,100,000$3,100,000
RW, C
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$3,200,000$3,200,000
RW
UFA - 3
Logo of the New York Rangers
$4,625,000$4,625,000
LW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Detroit Red Wings
$3,000,000$3,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the San Jose Sharks
$1,000,000$1,000,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$4,800,000$4,800,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
Logo of the New York Islanders
$925,000$925,000
RW
RFA - 4
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$842,500$842,500 (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Columbus Blue Jackets
$1,850,000$1,850,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the San Jose Sharks
$1,635,000$1,635,000
LD
UFA - 1
Logo of the New York Islanders
$1,450,000$1,450,000
RD
UFA - 4
Logo of the New York Rangers
$792,500$792,500 (Performance Bonus$132,500$132K)
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Anaheim Ducks
$2,050,000$2,050,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$925,000$925,000
RD
RFA - 2
Logo of the San Jose Sharks
$5,280,000$5,280,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 6

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Jan. 28, 2020 at 1:09 p.m.
#26
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Quoting: leafs101
Carey price. the number of price for byram+ picks...


I’ll have you know I got like half my likes on those posts
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Jan. 28, 2020 at 1:10 p.m.
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Good List!! I like this a lot and I think its crucial for people to understand!
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Jan. 28, 2020 at 1:10 p.m.
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Quoting: OldNYIfan
I think in both cases we have a problem with the term "overvalue."

Guys who think Risto Ristolainen is worth a first-round pick and a top-6 forward are overvaluing their player.

Ducks fans have particular reasons for rejecting trades involving Kase and Manson, and only the latter has an element of "over-valuing."

Ducks fans want to get the equivalent of a Kase who will play the rest of his career with only minimal game loss due to injury. That would be a pretty nice price. The problem, of course, is that he has an injury history which makes it risky for other teams to offer his full worth. In short, Anaheim guys want the value of an 80-game Kase; guys trading for him (reasonably) want a discount for health.

Similarly, Ducks fans want a high price for Manson because we have no one else to play RhD other than Erik Gudbranson. But it makes little sense for an acquiring team to try to improve the right side of its own defense while sending back someone to replace him. And then there's the true element of overvaluing where he's concerned: Manson had one good year two seasons ago and doesn't look anything like that player now. In particular, if you'd watch him every game, you'd be appalled by the quality of the giveaways he commits on a regular and multiple basis. The first goal last night was just the latest example.


All very good points, which is why lost likely neither Manson nor Kase will be traded
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Jan. 28, 2020 at 1:11 p.m.
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Quoting: Hockeylover360
Andreas Anthanasiou?


That’s a good one, I’ll ad him
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Jan. 28, 2020 at 1:12 p.m.
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Quoting: Isles777
His underlying metrics were really strong at the NHL level (he was demoted to the 4th line because barry trotz doesn’t trust young players) so that’s encouraging IMO. I’m still really high on him, bellows not so much despite him lighting it up in BPT over the last few months.

some fans think wahlstrom is going to be this 40+ goal scorer , I’m not that high on him, but I’m fairly confident he’ll be a 25-30 G scorer in a few years.


He’s got the skills to be a 25-30 goal scorer, I’m worried about 2 things:

1. If he can put all his skills together
2. Trotz/Thompson not giving him ice time which would hold him back
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Jan. 28, 2020 at 1:16 p.m.
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Quoting: AndrewLadd
He’s got the skills to be a 25-30 goal scorer, I’m worried about 2 things:

1. If he can put all his skills together
2. Trotz/Thompson not giving him ice time which would hold him back


The way trotz handles young players isn’t bad for their development, it’s just frustrating watching as a fan because he’ll let grinders with no skill get more minutes than young skilled players. Thompson should have been fired years ago, it’s insane that he still has a job. That’s a legitimate concern, I agree with you there.
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Jan. 28, 2020 at 1:25 p.m.
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Quoting: Isles777
The way trotz handles young players isn’t bad for their development, it’s just frustrating watching as a fan because he’ll let grinders with no skill get more minutes than young skilled players. Thompson should have been fired years ago, it’s insane that he still has a job. That’s a legitimate concern, I agree with you there.


Yeah I’m more worried about Thompson, he’s AWFUL
Jan. 28, 2020 at 1:53 p.m.
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Quoting: newballcoach
As a Leafs fan, you should probably add Jeremy Bracco to that list.


Hahaha! C'mon, man, Bracco and a 2nd for Dumba. Everyone knows that's fair
 
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