It amazes me that so many Avs fans are not only hell-bent on trading Jost, but that they are willing to sacrifice quite a bit of their future, when the team really has all they need already. They very well could pad their back-end by bringing up Connor Timmins, who I think is ready. They could also pull a Cale Makar 2.0 and convince Alex Newhook (that'd be a stretch), or call up Shane Bowers, who I think deserves a shot. Also, no reason to sit Nieto, might as well trade him in that case.

Eh

I have been saying let it ride! I've been saying this since the Hall to COL ideas. I like Rakell, if that happened I'd be happy but it isn't the most necessary. I'd love to steal Granlund for that price since he was the only Wild member I couldn't hate, he's so skilled, can't understand why he dropped.

If the only thing this team really needed was a 3C option, then sure, that deal doesn't really hurt the prospect cupboard at all, or the NHL roster. So for that price, bring in Granlund, why not. Other than that, I wouldn't mess with the fabric of this team too much.

It probably comes from the fact that jost was kind of a hit or miss guy when they drafted him coming from the bchl, and has been given every opportunity to succeed centring his own line, or playing the wing with MacKinnon and he just hasn't found his place... he was the best on a line with wilson and compher in past years playoffs but hasn't been able to be as successful in more prominent roles,.. I would compare him to a pulijarvi where he has the potential but just cant seem to reach it.

I agree if the avs dont make any moves this year I wont be upset they still have a great team as is, but if they could get rakell for that little I'd be smiling from ear to ear.

As for sitting neito, I agree you could trade him, but you may throw him in, in the playoffs if someone needs a maintenance day or has an injury, but if that was the roster and I was the coach ol' neito would definately be in the press box

Jost is kind of a wildcard right now. Does he have upside potential, definitely. But the thing is he's not going to be taking any positions from the top 6 right now. He's gotten a lot of opportunity to show that he can become something but sometimes players need a change of scenery. We might as well get something for him and send him somewhere so he gets a chance to play before he gets down on himself and burried on the roster even more than he is.

As for makar 2.0 no one in the system will be able to come out of college and be as effective as he was in playoffs for us. Playoffs is a whole different beast and for players who aren't even shining in the minors, they aren't going to get the call up during playoffs. Those guys won't get a chance till next season.

I don't think we need both trades as we don't have enough roster spots really as we added plenty of depth in free agency, i think we do need to solidify the 3C position, especially with the injury luck we've had this year.

I don't think your Tyson Jost comp is a very fair one. I am a Leafs fan, but from I have seen of his play when the teams meet, I would totally take him. In fact, I would have to speak to some friends in the industry, but I am pretty sure (and don't take my word for it), the Leafs asked about Jost before Kerfoot.

Come on man, you just said you basically have seen Jost for 2 games of 82... and you're trying to argue with someone who watches him in preseason to playoffs.. I'm sure that they did ask for jost over kerfoot but jost is 4 years younger and has a higher ceiling.. I was very happy to see kerfoot go, he didnt fit in colorados top 6, they upgraded with burakovsky and donskoi, they then tried to convert jost to a top 6 winger but he couldnt outplay the 2 previously mentioned guys, then landy burakovsky and rantanen go down and he still cant stay in the top 6. They brought in bellemare to play 4c and even he beat jost out for the 3c spot

That's an entirely fair package for Rakell in isolation, but I think Anaheim management is only going to trade Rakell for immediate defensive help -- specifically, an RhD. They would counter with a Kase-for-Timmons idea.

I don't think of myself as hell-bent to trade Jost. I certainly would not want to see him traded for a rental (I think CapFriendly should AUTO BAN any more Jost for Kreider trades). I also don't quite see his place on this team. He is slightly miscast on this team. He is playing 3rd/4th line mins, does not contribute to the special teams, will not crack the top six, cannot seem to play wing. I love the guys effort but the Avs have some C depth (I sincerely think Bowers is the 3C next year). I think moving Jost for a slightly older top 9 W with term is not giving up on him, but rather finding a better fit for what the teams needs are. Finally, picks/Beaucage is not giving up on the future...esp if you are getting a good player with Term. That is a trade that helps now..and for the next couple of years until the team resets around Mack & Makars contracts.

Is Nieto just not an effective player? I've always liked him but he also did score two SHG against the flames in the playoffs and that drove his stock up for me. Even though he's not the best producer in general I thought he was an effective bottom 6 FWD, especially in the playoffs. Has his play just dropped off?

Well if you looked at that roster who would you play neito over?

Actually that is tricky, possibly Nich but after the way he's been playing, especially during his scoring burst, I may take him over Nieto. Nichushkin also has a pretty decently physical game. Something we didn't get when we were trying out Yakupov.