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Created by: Kyle_Davidson

Team: 2019-20 Chicago Blackhawks

Initial Creation Date: Jan. 31, 2020

Published: Jan. 31, 2020

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Trades

CHI

Backes, David
2020 1st round pick (BOS)

BOS

Smith, Zack ($250,000 retained)

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How could Boston say no to this? Saves them 3mil in cap, gives them a useful PK, 4th line player (albeit on a bad contract, BUT with the same term as Backes) We saw that 6million in deadcap was worth a first when Carolina ate that Cap from Toronto. Boston saves 3million this year and next year, OR can save 3mil this year and buyhim out in the offseason and save 5million next year (Relative to Backes contract at 6) Even if Backes is stashed in the minors the cap relief is significant.

The first could easily be substituted for one of their top prospects.

Retained Salary Transactions

Zack Smith: $250,000 (7.69%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2020
2021
2022

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
22	$81,500,000	$55,571,686	$0	$7,665,000	$25,928,314

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Kubalik, Dominik $925,000$925,000 ($850,000$850K) LW, RW UFA - 1	Toews, Jonathan $10,500,000$10,500,000 C NMC UFA - 4	Saad, Brandon $5,000,000$5,000,000 LW, RW UFA - 2
DeBrincat, Alex $778,333$778,333 ($32,500$32K) LW, RW UFA - 1	Strome, Dylan $863,333$863,333 ($2,475,000$2M) C UFA - 1	Kane, Patrick $2,625,000$2,625,000 RW NMC UFA - 4
Caggiula, Drake $1,500,000$1,500,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Dach, Kirby $925,000$925,000 ($2,500,000$2M) C, RW RFA - 3	Nylander, Alexander $863,333$863,333 ($850,000$850K) RW, LW RFA - 2
Kämpf, David $1,000,000$1,000,000 C UFA - 2	Carpenter, Ryan $1,000,000$1,000,000 RW, C UFA - 3	Backes, David $4,500,000$4,500,000 C, RW M-NTC UFA - 2

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Keith, Duncan $5,538,462$5,538,462 LD NMC UFA - 4	Boqvist, Adam $894,167$894,167 ($850,000$850K) RD RFA - 3	Lehner, Robin $1,400,000$1,400,000 G UFA - 1
Gustafsson, Erik $1,200,000$1,200,000 LD UFA - 1	Murphy, Connor $3,850,000$3,850,000 RD UFA - 3	Crawford, Corey $6,000,000$6,000,000 G M-NTC, NMC UFA - 1
Määttä, Olli $3,333,225$3,333,225 LD UFA - 3	Koekkoek, Slater $925,000$925,000 LD/RD UFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Gilbert, Dennis $925,000$925,000 LD UFA - 2		Seabrook, Brent $6,875,000$6,875,000 RD NMC UFA - 5
Highmore, Matthew $775,833$775,833 ($107,500$108K) LW, RW UFA - 1		De Haan, Calvin $4,550,000$4,550,000 LD/RD UFA - 3
		Shaw, Andrew $3,900,000$3,900,000 C, RW UFA - 3

Jan. 31, 2020 at 3:05 p.m.

Gofnut999

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Ummm. Nooo.

Jan. 31, 2020 at 3:07 p.m.

Koekkoek_Clock

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Why would Chicago say yes
Please explain

Jan. 31, 2020 at 3:12 p.m.

Kyle_Davidson

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Kyle from Chicago

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Quoting: Koekkoek_Clock

Why would Chicago say yes
Please explain

First round pick is good?

Jan. 31, 2020 at 3:13 p.m.

coga16

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Quoting: Koekkoek_Clock

Why would Chicago say yes
Please explain

its bc its heavily favoured to basically buying a 1st round pick. His buyout is 4m and 1m cap hits for the next 2 seasons. Smith is actually worse than Backes, so with Smiths cap hit next year vs Smiths cap hit, all they are doing is adding 750k-1m (including this retention) in cap space to get a 1st round pick.

Bruins tell them to pound sand with this deal.

Jan. 31, 2020 at 3:13 p.m.

Kyle_Davidson

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Quoting: Gofnut999

Ummm. Nooo.

This is an easy win for you guys though.

Jan. 31, 2020 at 3:13 p.m.

Kyle_Davidson

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Quoting: coga16

its bc its heavily favoured to basically buying a 1st round pick. His buyout is 4m and 1m cap hits for the next 2 seasons. Smith is actually worse than Backes, so with Smiths cap hit next year vs Smiths cap hit, all they are doing is adding 750k-1m (with the retention) in cap space to get a 1st round pick.

Bruins tell them to bound sand with this deal

What makes you think Smith is worse than Backes?

Jan. 31, 2020 at 3:17 p.m.

Koekkoek_Clock

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Quoting: Stan_Bowman

First round pick is good?

This would never happen. I’m not sure you’re aware of how many UFAs we need to sign this year.
This is why you have one of the worse gm reps in the league

Jan. 31, 2020 at 3:20 p.m.

Kyle_Davidson

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Quoting: Koekkoek_Clock

This would never happen. I’m not sure you’re aware of how many UFAs we need to sign this year.
This is why you have one of the worse gm reps in the league

Odds are one of DeHann, Shaw, Seabrook retires (looking at you Shaw) and for the record, Stan Bowman isn't looked down upon by his peers. At least theirs no evidence to support this claim.

Jan. 31, 2020 at 3:21 p.m.

coga16

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Quoting: Stan_Bowman

What makes you think Smith is worse than Backes?

not saying backes is some sort of prize pig either, but Smith has been for a few seasons now, he has some very ugly underlying numbers

Jan. 31, 2020 at 3:25 p.m.

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Petrock83

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Backes can never, and will never, be on the same team as Seabrook.

Jan. 31, 2020 at 3:29 p.m.

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Kyle_Davidson

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Quoting: Petrock83

Backes can never, and will never, be on the same team as Seabrook.

That would be a good wakeup call for both of them (+ Keith)

Jan. 31, 2020 at 3:31 p.m.

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Gofnut999

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Quoting: Stan_Bowman

This is an easy win for you guys though.

Rather keep the 1st. Unlike Leafs we don’t have to move him. Would help, but not necessary.

Jan. 31, 2020 at 3:32 p.m.

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Kyle_Davidson

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Quoting: Gofnut999

Rather keep the 1st. Unlike Leafs we don’t have to move him. Would help, but not necessary.

This post is mainly inspired by an article that I read which suggested that the Bruins were looking to trade him (Hence why he is not reporting to AHL)

Jan. 31, 2020 at 3:32 p.m.

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Koekkoek_Clock

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Quoting: Stan_Bowman

Odds are one of DeHann, Shaw, Seabrook retires (looking at you Shaw) and for the record, Stan Bowman isn't looked down upon by his peers. At least theirs no evidence to support this claim.

There are lots of evidence to support my claim
Example panarin
Shaw won’t retire yet

Jan. 31, 2020 at 3:47 p.m.

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Gofnut999

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Quoting: Stan_Bowman

This post is mainly inspired by an article that I read which suggested that the Bruins were looking to trade him (Hence why he is not reporting to AHL)

They are. It they are looking at including him in a deal with something significant coming back and overpaying to compensate for Backes being involved. They won’t mind giving up the 1st then. Just giving it up to dump him. Not going to happen. They will just buy him out next year if it comes to that.

Jan. 31, 2020 at 3:47 p.m.

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JackBurton

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Jesus christ, light this bull****e on fire and walk away...

Koekkoek_Clock liked this.

Jan. 31, 2020 at 3:50 p.m.

#17

ForsbergForVezina

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I know Boston is getting real value back, but the thing that made the Marleau trade work was that all $6.25 million was gone off Toronto’s books. Here, the Bruins only get $3 million in savings and they aren’t going to be right up against the cap like the Leafs were anyways. I don’t think it’s worth it to them

Jan. 31, 2020 at 4:27 p.m.

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DaBus

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As a Hawks fan you have to at least retain half of Smith's deal because Boston is a cap team. If you do not retain half change the 1st to a 2nd or a B or better prospect

Jan. 31, 2020 at 8:37 p.m.

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HatterTParty

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Wow, I gotta say, this is a total rip off for Boston. Again, love to get a pick as a hawks fan, but Jesus, I’m very much a realist.

Wait, did I just see someone say there’s no evidence to make the claim that bowman is looked down on by his peers?! WHAT?!

Feb. 1, 2020 at 10:30 a.m.

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Kyle_Davidson

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Quoting: HatterTParty

Yeah, Like it or not Bowman is not in the bottom half of NHL GM’s.

Feb. 1, 2020 at 1:13 p.m.

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HatterTParty

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Quoting: Stan_Bowman

Yeah, Like it or not Bowman is not in the bottom half of NHL GM’s.

That’s not what you said. You said he isn’t looked down on and there isn’t evidence to say he is. There really, REALLY, is.

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