Quite an overpayment, but if you want him that bad....??‍♂️

Expendable pieces IMO other than the 1st, which if we're dead set on buying, would be better value to do this than burn it on a rental.

Kase is a 24 year old wing that averages 39pts per 82g. Same as Danton Heinen. B’s would gladly take that for Heinen. Hell, they’d take just the 1st and be happy as hell. Kase is vastly over valued on this site.

I like him. But he’s worth a 2nd and decent prospect.

If Sanford is THAT expandable, we'll take him for McKegg and a 5th (or a 4th)

Raw point totals dont paint the whole picture. He's a great play driver, he's got speed and power and smarts, and awful injury luck.

He's expendable if it makes us better. McKegg isn't that.

I wouldn’t be opposed to this but I would look at 2nd Sanford and Barbashev.

Could maybe get him for less imo, but I like it either way. Maybe they would want an RHD prospect like Reinke as well.

The nice thing about using Sanford and Barby is that its pretty much cap neutral to swap them for kase and kostin next year. And IMO that's an upgrade. If it comes at the cost of a 2nd, I'm definitely in. I used the first to be a worst-case type thing.

The first and Reinke should be enough for us. I think we would be charmed with that deal.

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Hot take, but I have absolute no issue with including Barbashev in a deal for a better forward. I really really liked how he played on his first 30 game stint, but I haven’t seen much since. There’s some high-end shooting talent with him, but he can’t get enough offensive possession to make it useful and he’s legitimately bad at defense. I really like what I’ve seen from Nolan Stevens in the AHL this year and with how good Maceachern has been, I think the Blues should have no problem replacing him.

Between Blais, DLR, Mac², kostin, Stevens... Barby could def be expendable. Him or Sanford.

I think we’re all surprised about how effective and important Mac has been at 5v5 and I’d love to see Berube mold him into a pker. I think you can add Nikita Alexandrov to that list as well. He’s so mature for his age and can honestly could hang in the NHL after half an AHL season next year.

Something also can be said about Alexandrov too. Barbashev has become expendable.

I actually like Barbashev's game, I wouldn't be so quick to move on from him yet. Sanford on the other hand, he should have been gone 6 months ago.

Waaaay too much to give. Kase isn't even as valuable as Barby alone.

Well that's certainly an opinion but I don't agree. The offer might be a little steep but the Ducks aren't really at a disadvantage if they keep Kase around so there would have to be some incentive.

It's over the top steep. Kase also isn't worth a 2020 1st, let alone that pick AND Barby (who is the cheaper, younger, arguably better player right now) AND THEN another useful NHL player in exchange for a player we don't have a great need for.

I agree that it’s too steep, but I’m trading Barbashev + for Kase everyday of the week.

I have no idea why. Barby scores more P/60 by a decent margin (usually playing with less offensive players and being well over 60% D-zone starts). He's still only 22, so he's probably not to his offensive ceiling yet. He is cheaper, which is a serious consideration for us ATM. He forechecks and hits and kills penalties.

Just a Slow year for Kase, he’s been in at least the 90th percentile in 5v5 goals/xgoals/points per 60 for the last three years. He’s one of the best drivers of play in the league he just has never really been given the chance to play a lot of minutes with good players. Barbashev on the other hand doesn’t drive offensive goal rates and his defensive RAPM numbers are some of the worst in the league. He’s been an excellent shooter throughout the early part of his career and he’s a good penalty killer, but that’s really it.

And slow years are the perfect time to make savvy trades. Probably need about 3 seasons to really evaluate a guy, and up until this season, Kase was a breakout waiting to happen. I still think hes that player. And I think Barby is forever a 4c

I see Schenn is on a line with Brouwer and Steen tonight, not exactly what you want to see from a guy who’s under contract for 8.5 more years.

This is definitely an overpayment for a guy like Kase, but if the first isn't included it's not bad. Problem is Kase is a RW and the Blues dont really need another RW. If anything, Rakell can play the opposite wing and is probably worth closer to that package you have (if the intent is to go after a Ducks player).
I definitely agree with the above though and think Barbashev, as much as I like him,is pretty expendable at this point. I really thought he could have turned into something else, but Thomas came in and sort of prevented that a little.