Kreider asking price

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Created by: gregb569

Team: 2019-20 Pittsburgh Penguins

Initial Creation Date: Feb. 4, 2020

Published: Feb. 4, 2020

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

thoughts... not sure I wanna give up a 1st for a rental

Trades

PIT

Kreider, Chris
2020 4th round pick (NYR)
2020 5th round pick (NYR)

Additional Details:

https://www.thescore.com/nhl/news/1940164/report-kreider-atop-8-teams-trade-wish-lists

*not both a 4th/5th one or the other*

NYR

Galchenyuk, Alex
2020 1st round pick (PIT)

Additional Details:

Want Hayes return: 1st + B. Lemieux

We give 1st + Gally (more trade value than Lemieux) to get something back (either a 4th or 5th not sure what is more accurate)

Buried

Casey DeSmith: $175,000 ($1,250,000)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2020
2021
2022

ROSTER

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
22	$81,500,000	$72,332,875	$132,500	$3,832,500	$9,167,125

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Kreider, Chris $4,625,000$4,625,000 LW M-NTC UFA - 1	Crosby, Sidney $8,700,000$8,700,000 C NMC UFA - 6	Simon, Dominik $750,000$750,000 RW, LW UFA - 1
McCann, Jared $1,250,000$1,250,000 C, LW UFA - 1	Malkin, Evgeni $9,500,000$9,500,000 C NMC UFA - 3	Rust, Bryan $3,500,000$3,500,000 RW, LW UFA - 3
Aston-Reese, Zach $1,000,000$1,000,000 LW, RW UFA - 2	Blueger, Teddy $750,000$750,000 C, LW UFA - 2	Tanev, Brandon $3,500,000$3,500,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 6
Lafferty, Sam $767,500$767,500 ($132,500$132K) RW, C, LW UFA - 1	Angello, Anthony $833,750$833,750 C, RW UFA - 1	Hörnqvist, Patric $5,300,000$5,300,000 RW NTC UFA - 4

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Johnson, Jack $3,250,000$3,250,000 LD UFA - 4	Letang, Kris $7,250,000$7,250,000 RD M-NTC, NMC UFA - 3	Murray, Matt $3,750,000$3,750,000 G UFA - 1
Pettersson, Marcus $874,125$874,125 LD UFA - 1	Marino, John $925,000$925,000 ($850,000$850K) RD UFA - 2	Jarry, Tristan $675,000$675,000 G UFA - 1
Riikola, Juuso $850,000$850,000 LD UFA - 1	Schultz, Justin $5,500,000$5,500,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Ruhwedel, Chad $700,000$700,000 RD UFA - 2	Dumoulin, Brian $4,100,000$4,100,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 4	Guentzel, Jake $4,500,000$4,500,000 LW, RW UFA - 5
Agozzino, Andrew $700,000$700,000 C, LW UFA - 2	Bjugstad, Nick $2,050,000$2,050,000 C, RW UFA - 2
	Kahun, Dominik $925,000$925,000 ($2,850,000$3M) LW, RW, C UFA - 1

Feb. 4, 2020 at 11:46 a.m.

aspina25

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Gally doesn't have more value than Lemieux did... He's older, paid a f*** ton more and isn't under contract past this year

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Feb. 4, 2020 at 11:47 a.m.

Leafs_and_Sens_Fan

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New York wouldn't give up a pick for Galchenyuk. He would be included in the deal simply as a salary dump.

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Feb. 4, 2020 at 12:17 p.m.

Sagecoll

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It's Kreider for a 1st + Hallander. It's real simple...There might even be an added conditional pick for resign, but it starts at a 1st + Hallander.

Feb. 4, 2020 at 12:25 p.m.

gregb569

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gregb569

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Quoting: Sagecoll

It's Kreider for a 1st + Hallander. It's real simple...There might even be an added conditional pick for resign, but it starts at a 1st + Hallander.

That's more than 1st + Lemieux so pens hangup and pass

Feb. 4, 2020 at 12:27 p.m.

brgh4life

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Quoting: Sagecoll

It's Kreider for a 1st + Hallander. It's real simple...There might even be an added conditional pick for resign, but it starts at a 1st + Hallander.

Rental Wingers don't get 1st round picks unless it is contingent on signing an extension. Kreider won't get that.

Feb. 4, 2020 at 12:50 p.m.

Linie057

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Quoting: brgh4life

Rental Wingers don't get 1st round picks unless it is contingent on signing an extension. Kreider won't get that.

Kreider is the biggest name left on the market. The only reason why NYR shouldn't get 1st back is if they want an A prospect included

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Feb. 4, 2020 at 1:15 p.m.

Spanky227

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Quoting: brgh4life

Rental Wingers don't get 1st round picks unless it is contingent on signing an extension. Kreider won't get that.

Name one player atop TSN's trade bait list that hasn't gotten a 1st round pick.. even as a rental... i'll give a pretty decent wavelength on the prospect (Galchenyuk is a pending UFA having a terrible season and doesn't count) but the 1st rounder will have to be a necessity. Especially if there are 8 teams really gunning for kreider

The only one I can think of was Stone, but not only was he resigned by Vegas after the deal, he got Brannstrom (a top 25 prospect) and a 2nd round pick. I think that's a lot more than a late 1st rounder and a b prospect..

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Feb. 4, 2020 at 1:47 p.m.

Sagecoll

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Quoting: brgh4life

Rental Wingers don't get 1st round picks unless it is contingent on signing an extension. Kreider won't get that.

Do people think last year's market (with arguably 8 UFA top 6 F's) is indicative of trade values this year?

People are in for a surprise lol.

We're merely 2 years removed from an oft-injured Rick Nash at 33 making 7+mil putting up a worse scoring rate than Kreider returning a 1st + recent 2nd round pick + middle 6 player

LeBrun has the return as 1st AND Kyrou. 1st + Hallander is the low end of the return lol.

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Feb. 4, 2020 at 3:25 p.m.

gregb569

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gregb569

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Quoting: Sagecoll

Pretty sure everyone and their dog can agree that Rick Nash trade is an outlier.. basing your 2020 TDL on that trade is just as inaccurate lol..

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