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Ducks Trade

Created by: johnston3504
Team: 2019-20 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Feb. 5, 2020
Published: Feb. 5, 2020
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what do you think not enough or too much? Ducks get Kappy and a 2nd and a defensive prospect for manson and a 4th for a back up rental.
Trades
ANA
  1. Ceci, Cody
  2. Kapanen, Kasperi
  3. Lindgren, Jesper
  4. 2021 2nd round pick (TOR)
  5. 2021 4th round pick (TOR)
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2020
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2021
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2022
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$81,500,000$77,472,143$0$1,270,000$4,027,857
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$2,250,000$2,250,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$11,634,000$11,634,000
C
UFA - 5
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$10,893,000$10,893,000
RW
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
LW, C, RW
UFA - 4
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$11,000,000$11,000,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 6
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$6,962,366$6,962,366
RW
UFA - 5
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$3,400,000$3,400,000
LW, RW
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$925,000$925,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$775,000$775,000
LW, RW
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$694,444$694,444 (Performance Bonus$70,000$70K)
LW
UFA - 1
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$700,000$700,000
C, RW
NTC
UFA - 1
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$675,000$675,000
C
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD
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$2,050,000$2,050,000
RD
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
G
M-NTC
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$4,000,000$4,000,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$675,000$675,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$1,125,000$1,125,000 (Performance Bonus$1,200,000$1M)
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$863,333$863,333
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$700,000$700,000
G
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$700,000$700,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$5,300,000$5,300,000
RW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000
LW, RW
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$5,250,000$5,250,000
RW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1

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Feb. 5, 2020 at 10:24 a.m.
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Ducks only move Manson if they get an impactful young RD imo, only one that would be coming from TOR is Lily and the leafs shouldn't pay that

Kap (mid six winger), a cap dump in Ceci, a insignificant prospect and a couple picks a year from now doesn't get the job done
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Feb. 5, 2020 at 10:26 a.m.
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Still no, despite the fact that this is the 892nd time it, or something similar has been posted.

I like Kappy, but that’s not a huge hole for the Ducks. Lots of other potential trade partners for the Ducks who can help fill their needs.
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Feb. 5, 2020 at 10:33 a.m.
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Ducks only move Manson if they get an impactful young RD imo, only one that would be coming from TOR is Lily and the leafs shouldn't pay that

Kap (mid six winger), a cap dump in Ceci, a insignificant prospect and a couple picks a year from now doesn't get the job done


yeah i was thinking the same i would rather keep lilly.
Feb. 5, 2020 at 10:34 a.m.
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Still no, despite the fact that this is the 892nd time it, or something similar has been posted.

I like Kappy, but that’s not a huge hole for the Ducks. Lots of other potential trade partners for the Ducks who can help fill their needs.


yeah i know alot have been going around i just figured fixing the d and goalie at the same time what about instead of the 2nd next season was a first would that do it?
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Feb. 5, 2020 at 11:07 a.m.
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yeah i know alot have been going around i just figured fixing the d and goalie at the same time what about instead of the 2nd next season was a first would that do it?


I'd certainly consider it, but I'm sure most Leafs fans would be against it.

I know that many are anti-Ceci, but as Dermott gets his legs back under him (Which should be soon), would it not make more sense to stand-pat? Barrie seems to be figuring it out, and after a slow start has actually started to close the gap on his career norms for point totals. I get that it's desperate times in Toronto, but if it were me, and the Leafs weren't on Miller's NTC, I'd go 2020 3rd+Hutch for Miller, and hold onto the rest. You're already going to have to re-organize the d-core in the summer anyway.

If it's the right side that you're worried about, maybe run Liljegren out there for a couple of weeks to evaluate where he's at. If he's not at the level that he needs to be, revisit then, which is probably when you can get a deal on another option.
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Feb. 5, 2020 at 11:09 a.m.
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yeah i know alot have been going around i just figured fixing the d and goalie at the same time what about instead of the 2nd next season was a first would that do it?


Not even close. Any deal around AJ/KK simply doesn’t consider our needs. It doesn’t matter what you add as the whole premise of the deal is lacking (unless you add one of Liljegren/Sandin).
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Feb. 5, 2020 at 2:56 p.m.
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Not even close. Any deal around AJ/KK simply doesn’t consider our needs. It doesn’t matter what you add as the whole premise of the deal is lacking (unless you add one of Liljegren/Sandin).


ok so lilly and a 2nd for manson, you wont be getting kappy a end or first and lilly for manson lol he isnt that good.
Feb. 6, 2020 at 7:05 a.m.
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ok so lilly and a 2nd for manson, you wont be getting kappy a end or first and lilly for manson lol he isnt that good.


I’d pass on that deal. Don’t rate Liljegren the way TOR fans do. He’s not that special and has already fallen short of expectations. Originally had top pairing upside, now it’s top 4. Clearly has issues defending. Manson is a legit talent, well-liked in the organisation, and with a unique skill set. TOR isnt the only team that can make an offer on Manson. He’d get better value elsewhere, equally we could just keep him.
Feb. 6, 2020 at 9:34 a.m.
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I’d pass on that deal. Don’t rate Liljegren the way TOR fans do. He’s not that special and has already fallen short of expectations. Originally had top pairing upside, now it’s top 4. Clearly has issues defending. Manson is a legit talent, well-liked in the organisation, and with a unique skill set. TOR isnt the only team that can make an offer on Manson. He’d get better value elsewhere, equally we could just keep him.



There is nothing wrong with this value, Ana fans expect more not sure why, claim they have no room for a 20 goal winger on third line minutes but yet can't buy a goal from their plethora of middle 6 wingers. Manson brings 0 offense from the back end but is the defensive Dman the Leafs do need to pair with Rielly. Trade wise value is there, Ana fans will never be happy with any Manson trade unless of course it is a massive overpayment that drastically improves their team and hurts the Leafs.
Feb. 6, 2020 at 10:42 a.m.
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There is nothing wrong with this value, Ana fans expect more not sure why, claim they have no room for a 20 goal winger on third line minutes but yet can't buy a goal from their plethora of middle 6 wingers. Manson brings 0 offense from the back end but is the defensive Dman the Leafs do need to pair with Rielly. Trade wise value is there, Ana fans will never be happy with any Manson trade unless of course it is a massive overpayment that drastically improves their team and hurts the Leafs.


The value is off and this doesn’t address team needs. We’d need a replacement for Manson. This has been explained multiple times.

Yeah, I’d want an overpayment. I like Manson. Clearly he’s having issues, but don’t see why he couldn’t bounce back. Getting scoring forwards is easy and can be done through the draft. Finding good quality D-men, especially those with the skill set that Manson has, is almost impossible. TOR fans should know this because you've been trying to address deficiencies on the backend for years. ANA needs to keep their good D-men. We’re not here to do TOR favours or offer fair value. If you want to commit the futures for the now, that’s up to you. If you don’t, that’s also up to you. We’re not giving you a discount and allowing you to dictate what Manson’s value is. There are plenty of teams that would outbid what TOR fans deem “fair” and we’d probably turn those offers down too.
 
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