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Hopeful Trade Deadline

Created by: TheDream_43
Initial Creation Date: Feb 5, 2020
Published: Feb 5 at 7:00 pm
Team: 2019-20 Toronto Maple Leafs
Team Explanation
Assuming Mik won't be back this year. ROAST ME
Trades
TOR
  1. Campbell, Jack
LAK
  1. Kaskisuo, Kasimir
  2. 2021 3rd round pick (TOR)
TOR
  1. Brodin, Jonas
  2. Foligno, Marcus
MIN
  1. Dermott, Travis
  2. Johnsson, Andreas
  3. Bracco, Jeremy
TOR
  1. 2020 6th round pick (WPG)
They are looking for D, have cap space to waste and typically aren't great at evaluating them
WPG
  1. Ceci, Cody
Buyouts
  • Mikhail Grabovski: $0
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Phil Kessel: $1,200,000 (15%)
  • Robin Lehner: $1,100,000 (22%)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
TOR
CBJ
TOR
VGK
TOR
CAR
COL
WPG
SJS
STL
WPG
2021
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
2022
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
22$81,500,000$82,244,644$0$70,000-$744,644
Left WingCenterRight Wing
TOR
Hyman, Zach
$2,250,000
LW
NTC
UFA - 2
TOR
Matthews, Auston
$11,634,000
C
UFA - 5
TOR
Marner, Mitchell
$10,893,000
RW
UFA - 6
TOR
Kerfoot, Alexander
$3,500,000
C, LW
UFA - 4
TOR
Tavares, John
$11,000,000
C
NMC
UFA - 6
TOR
Nylander, William
$6,962,366
RW, LW
UFA - 5
MIN
Foligno, Marcus
$2,875,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
TOR
Engvall, Pierre
$925,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
TOR
Kapanen, Kasperi
$3,200,000
RW
RFA - 3
TOR
Timashov, Dmytro
$694,444
LW
RFA - 1
TOR
Spezza, Jason
$700,000
C, RW
NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Moore, Trevor
$775,000
RW, LW
RFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
TOR
Rielly, Morgan
$5,000,000
LD
UFA - 3
MIN
Brodin, Jonas
$4,166,667
LD
UFA - 2
TOR
Andersen, Frederik
$5,000,000
G
NTC
UFA - 2
TOR
Muzzin, Jake
$4,000,000
LD
UFA - 1
TOR
Barrie, Tyson
$2,750,000
RD
UFA - 1
LAK
Campbell, Jack
$675,000
G
UFA - 1
TOR
Sandin, Rasmus
$894,167
LD
RFA - 3
TOR
Holl, Justin
$675,000
RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
TOR
Marincin, Martin
$700,000
LD
UFA - 1
TOR
Clarkson, David
$5,250,000
RW
NMC NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Gauthier, Frédérik
$675,000
C
RFA - 1
TOR
Horton, Nathan
$5,300,000
RW
NMC NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Mikheyev, Ilya
$925,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1

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Feb 5 at 7:02
#1
Joined: Jun 2017
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That Brodin trade makes zero sense for the Wild. If we move Brodin, it has to be for picks and/or a good center prospect, not another D and more wingers.
Feb 5 at 7:05
#2
Thread Starter
Joined: Oct 2018
Posts: 304
Likes: 108
Quoting: TanSor
That Brodin trade makes zero sense for the Wild. If we move Brodin, it has to be for picks and/or a good center prospect, not another D and more wingers.


Dermott is a younger option, and Johnsson brings a young skill to you guys to replace Zucker (if moved). My thought, don't watch a ton of Min though so could be wrong!
Feb 5 at 7:16
#3
Joined: Jun 2017
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Quoting: TheDream_43
Dermott is a younger option, and Johnsson brings a young skill to you guys to replace Zucker (if moved). My thought, don't watch a ton of Min though so could be wrong!


The thing is the whole reason we'd trade Dumba, Brodin, and Zucker in the first place is because we already have too many D and too many wingers. We currently have five top 4 D with Suter, Spurgeon, Brodin, Dumba, and Soucy so that's why there are all of these Brodin/Dumba rumors. Those two in particular probably have the most trade value of any of our players, which adds fuel to the rumor mill. Trading one of them for younger D doesn't make much sense since we would still have four top 4 D and we have a few promising D prospects budding in Iowa (RD in particular, but Soucy would replace whoever we trade as he can play both sides very well on the 2nd pairing). We also currently have Zucker, Zuccarello, Parise, and Fiala as our top 6 wingers but we will need a spot for Kaprizov next year, so one of them will likely be moved. Parise and Zuccarello likely have negative value in a trade and Fiala is our most skilled forward, so that basically leaves Zucker as the odd man out. Replacing him with a Kapanen or Johnsson doesn't solve any issues, we'd still need a spot for the best winger outside of the NHL next year if we targeted Kapanen/Johnsson in a Toronto trade.

The Wild's #1 bolded and underlined need is talented center prospects/young centers. Any trade we make should target a young center (not saying we'd get any of these guys but examples would include Suzuki, Krebs, Heponiemi, Texier, etc.). Toronto doesn't have any prospects like that and the one player they have that fits that bill (Matthews) would get Dubas fired if he traded (and rightfully so unless it's for like McDavid). long story short, I don't see a fit between Toronto and the Wild as trade partners. The Wild have a lot of enticing pieces for Toronto, but Toronto has nothing that would fill our needs.

Edit: and for the record, I do like Dermott and I do like Kapanen. Haven't seen enough of Johnsson, but the only thing we need less than any winger and defenseman is a left shot winger.
Feb 5 at 7:21
#4
MNBassman
Joined: May 2015
Posts: 4,148
Likes: 1,361
Quoting: TanSor
That Brodin trade makes zero sense for the Wild. If we move Brodin, it has to be for picks and/or a good center prospect, not another D and more wingers.


Especially not for a left-shot wing and a player who will be a career AHLer...
Feb 5 at 7:27
#5
Thread Starter
Joined: Oct 2018
Posts: 304
Likes: 108
Quoting: TanSor
The thing is the whole reason we'd trade Dumba, Brodin, and Zucker in the first place is because we already have too many D and too many wingers. We currently have five top 4 D with Suter, Spurgeon, Brodin, Dumba, and Soucy so that's why there are all of these Brodin/Dumba rumors. Those two in particular probably have the most trade value of any of our players, which adds fuel to the rumor mill. Trading one of them for younger D doesn't make much sense since we would still have four top 4 D and we have a few promising D prospects budding in Iowa (RD in particular, but Soucy would replace whoever we trade as he can play both sides very well on the 2nd pairing). We also currently have Zucker, Zuccarello, Parise, and Fiala as our top 6 wingers but we will need a spot for Kaprizov next year, so one of them will likely be moved. Parise and Zuccarello likely have negative value in a trade and Fiala is our most skilled forward, so that basically leaves Zucker as the odd man out. Replacing him with a Kapanen or Johnsson doesn't solve any issues, we'd still need a spot for the best winger outside of the NHL next year if we targeted Kapanen/Johnsson in a Toronto trade.

The Wild's #1 bolded and underlined need is talented center prospects/young centers. Any trade we make should target a young center (not saying we'd get any of these guys but examples would include Suzuki, Krebs, Heponiemi, Texier, etc.). Toronto doesn't have any prospects like that and the one player they have that fits that bill (Matthews) would get Dubas fired if he traded (and rightfully so unless it's for like McDavid). long story short, I don't see a fit between Toronto and the Wild as trade partners. The Wild have a lot of enticing pieces for Toronto, but Toronto has nothing that would fill our needs.


Absolutely fair, I am a big fan of Kaprizov as well. I do think the team should be looking at getting younger though over positional needs and making other moves to boot. In a vacuum this may not make sense but with surrounding deals it could. Kerfoot could be had instead of Johnsson if they are looking more for a C.

Leafs arguably already have 4 capable top 4 dman as well. IMO you can't have too many good players in a position. (IE: Leafs with Mitch willy Kap on RW)
Feb 5 at 7:56
#6
First NY Then LA
Joined: Jun 2018
Posts: 9,505
Likes: 4,097
The CapFriendly "UFA-1" tag on Campbell may be deceiving -- he signed a new two-year deal that succeeds the current one. So we're not trading him for Kaskisuo and a third.
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Feb 5 at 9:30
#7
Joined: Jun 2018
Posts: 8,811
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"and typically aren't great at evaluating them"

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Feb 5 at 10:59
#8
Thread Starter
Joined: Oct 2018
Posts: 304
Likes: 108
Quoting: OldNYIfan
The CapFriendly "UFA-1" tag on Campbell may be deceiving -- he signed a new two-year deal that succeeds the current one. So we're not trading him for Kaskisuo and a third.


No way they get him for a 3rd wink
 
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