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Future outlook with this trade

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Team: 2020-21 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Feb. 6, 2020
Published: Feb. 6, 2020
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$1,775,000
1$1,775,000
1$750,000
1$750,000
3$2,250,000
1$700,000
1$700,000
1$700,000
1$700,000
1$700,000
1$700,000
1$700,000
1$700,000
1$700,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$5,500,000
1$950,000
2$1,000,000
Trades
1.
ANA
  1. Bracco, Jeremy
  2. Kapanen, Kasperi
  3. 2022 2nd round pick (TOR)
Additional Details:
Conditional pick, if Kapanen get 60 points in any of his seasons leading up to 2022, then 2022 2nd turns into a 2022 3rd

**trade at TDL**
2.
TOR
  1. 2021 3rd round pick (TOR)
LAK
    Conditions on the pick* we didn’t resign Clifford
    3.
    TOR
    1. 2020 2nd round pick (EDM)
    2. 2020 3rd round pick (EDM)
    EDM
    1. Johnsson, Andreas
    Additional Details:
    Offseason trade
    Retained Salary Transactions
    DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
    2020
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    Logo of the TOR
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    Logo of the TOR
    Logo of the CAR
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    Logo of the SJS
    Logo of the STL
    Logo of the WPG
    2021
    Logo of the TOR
    Logo of the TOR
    Logo of the TOR
    Logo of the TOR
    Logo of the TOR
    Logo of the TOR
    Logo of the TOR
    2022
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    Logo of the TOR
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    Logo of the TOR
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    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
    21$83,500,000$79,499,783$0$0$4,000,217
    Left WingCentreRight Wing
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $2,250,000$2,250,000
    RW, LW
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $11,640,250$11,640,250
    C
    UFA - 4
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $10,903,000$10,903,000
    RW
    UFA - 5
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $1,775,000$1,775,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $11,000,000$11,000,000
    C, LW
    NMC
    UFA - 5
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $6,962,366$6,962,366
    RW
    UFA - 4
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $1,775,000$1,775,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $3,500,000$3,500,000
    LW, C, RW
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $750,000$750,000
    LW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $750,000$750,000
    C
    UFA - 1
    $1,000,000$1,000,000
    LW, C
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $950,000$950,000
    C, RW
    UFA - 1
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $5,000,000$5,000,000
    LD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Anaheim Ducks
    $2,050,000$2,050,000
    RD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $5,000,000$5,000,000
    G
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $5,500,000$5,500,000
    LD
    UFA - 4
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $1,650,000$1,650,000
    G
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $894,167$894,167
    LD
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $2,000,000$2,000,000
    RD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $2,250,000$2,250,000
    LD/RD
    UFA - 1
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $700,000$700,000
    LD
    UFA - 1

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    Feb. 6, 2020 at 9:07 a.m.
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    Awful value for ANA. Not even close to what we’d expect.
    Feb. 6, 2020 at 9:10 a.m.
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    Edited Feb. 6, 2020 at 10:06 a.m.
    Quoting: mytduxfan
    Awful value for ANA. Not even close to what we’d expect.


    Curious what Anaheim fans expect from a Manson trade.
    Feb. 6, 2020 at 9:11 a.m.
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    Quoting: mytduxfan
    Awful value for ANA. Not even close to what we’d expect.


    Really? What else needs to be added?
    Feb. 6, 2020 at 9:16 a.m.
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    Quoting: mytduxfan
    Awful value for ANA. Not even close to what we’d expect.


    Quoting: FrustratedToronto
    Curious what Anaheim fans expect from a Manson.


    Quoting: Nohate
    Really? What else needs to be added?


    There is nothing wrong with this value, Ana fans expect more not sure why, claim they have no room for a 20 goal winger on third line minutes but yet can't buy a goal from their plethora of middle 6 wingers. Manson brings 0 offense from the back end but is the defensive Dman the Leafs do need to pair with Rielly. Trade wise value is there, Ana fans will never be happy with any Manson trade unless of course it is a massive overpayment that drastically improves their team and hurts the Leafs.
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    Feb. 6, 2020 at 9:33 a.m.
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    Quoting: Boomer125
    There is nothing wrong with this value, Ana fans expect more not sure why, claim they have no room for a 20 goal winger on third line minutes but yet can't buy a goal from their plethora of middle 6 wingers. Manson brings 0 offense from the back end but is the defensive Dman the Leafs do need to pair with Rielly. Trade wise value is there, Ana fans will never be happy with any Manson trade unless of course it is a massive overpayment that drastically improves their team and hurts the Leafs.


    The value is off and this doesn’t address team needs. We’d need a replacement for Manson. This has been explained multiple times.

    Yeah, I’d want an overpayment. I like Manson. Clearly he’s having issues, but don’t see why he couldn’t bounce back. Getting scoring forwards is easy and can be done through the draft. Finding good quality D-men, especially those with the skill set that Manson has, is almost impossible. TOR fans should know this because you've been trying to address deficiencies on the backend for years. ANA needs to keep their good D-men. We’re not here to do TOR favours or offer fair value. If you want to commit the futures for the now, that’s up to you. If you don’t, that’s also up to you. We’re not giving you a discount and allowing you to dictate what Manson’s value is. There are plenty of teams that would outbid what TOR fans deem “fair” and we’d probably turn those offers down too.
    Feb. 6, 2020 at 9:38 a.m.
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    Johnsson has just two 5v5 goals this season despite playing more than 75% of his time with Auston Matthews. You aren't getting a 2nd + 3rd in a very deep draft for that.
    Feb. 6, 2020 at 9:43 a.m.
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    Quoting: mytduxfan
    The value is off and this doesn’t address team needs. We’d need a replacement for Manson. This has been explained multiple times.

    Yeah, I’d want an overpayment. I like Manson. Clearly he’s having issues, but don’t see why he couldn’t bounce back. Getting scoring forwards is easy and can be done through the draft. Finding good quality D-men, especially those with the skill set that Manson has, is almost impossible. TOR fans should know this because you've been trying to address deficiencies on the backend for years. ANA needs to keep their good D-men. We’re not here to do TOR favours or offer fair value. If you want to commit the futures for the now, that’s up to you. If you don’t, that’s also up to you. We’re not giving you a discount and allowing you to dictate what Manson’s value is. There are plenty of teams that would outbid what TOR fans deem “fair” and we’d probably turn those offers down too.


    What a fair Manson trade then?
    Feb. 6, 2020 at 9:46 a.m.
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    Quoting: Nohate
    What a fair Manson trade then?


    just wait 2 years when Manson is 30 years old and only one year left on his deal. anaheim will be searching for the middle 6 20+ scoring winger and 2nd round pick lol
    Feb. 6, 2020 at 10:41 a.m.
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    Quoting: Nohate
    What a fair Manson trade then?


    There is no point in me telling you what I think is fair value only for you to shoot it down. You won’t pay what needs to given up for Manson, so we’re done here. There is no deal to be had.

    Quoting: Tylerh
    just wait 2 years when Manson is 30 years old and only one year left on his deal. anaheim will be searching for the middle 6 20+ scoring winger and 2nd round pick lol


    Maybe, but that’s irrelevant to Manson at his current age, contract, ability, etc.
    Feb. 6, 2020 at 11:25 a.m.
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    Quoting: mytduxfan
    There is no point in me telling you what I think is fair value only for you to shoot it down. You won’t pay what needs to given up for Manson, so we’re done here. There is no deal to be had.


    I just want to know what fair value you think, from a ducks fan perspective, Manson’s value is.
    Feb. 6, 2020 at 11:56 a.m.
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    Quoting: FrustratedToronto
    Curious what Anaheim fans expect from a Manson trade.


    something that doesn't take away from the biggest team need, and not fix any major need
    Feb. 6, 2020 at 12:00 p.m.
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    just wait 2 years when Manson is 30 years old and only one year left on his deal. anaheim will be searching for the middle 6 20+ scoring winger and 2nd round pick lol


    not really, in 2 years the middle six will be extremely over crowded, Comtois Terry Steel Rico Silf Lundestrom BOG Tracey Kase Ritchie are all fighting for 7 spots... (assuming Raks and Zegras)
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