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Push For Playoffs

Created by: Kongol
Initial Creation Date: Feb 8, 2020
Published: Feb 8 at 10:04 am
Team: 2019-20 Toronto Maple Leafs
Trades
TOR
  1. Petry, Jeff
  2. Domi, Max ($1,350,000 retained)
  3. Romanov, Alexander [Reserve List]
MTL
  1. Kapanen, Kasperi
  2. Timashov, Dmytro
  3. Liljegren, Timothy
  4. Kokkonen, Mikko [Reserve List]
  5. 2022 2nd round pick (TOR)
TOR
  1. Lowry, Adam
WPG
  1. Gauthier, Frédérik
  2. Johnsson, Andreas
Buyouts
  • Mikhail Grabovski: $0
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Phil Kessel: $1,200,000 (15%)
  • Robin Lehner: $1,100,000 (22%)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
TOR
TOR
VGK
TOR
CAR
COL
SJS
STL
WPG
2021
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
2022
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
22$81,500,000$82,506,032$0$132,500-$1,006,032
Left WingCenterRight Wing
TOR
Hyman, Zach
$2,250,000
LW
NTC
UFA - 2
TOR
Matthews, Auston
$11,634,000
C
UFA - 5
TOR
Marner, Mitchell
$10,893,000
RW
UFA - 6
MTL
Domi, Max
$1,800,000
C, LW
RFA - 1
TOR
Tavares, John
$11,000,000
C
NMC
UFA - 6
TOR
Nylander, William
$6,962,366
RW, LW
UFA - 5
TOR
Kerfoot, Alexander
$3,500,000
C, LW
UFA - 4
WPG
Lowry, Adam
$2,916,666
C
UFA - 2
TOR
Engvall, Pierre
$925,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
TOR
Clifford, Kyle
$800,000
LW
UFA - 1
TOR
Spezza, Jason
$700,000
C, RW
NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Marchment, Mason
$767,500
LW
RFA - 1
TOR
Åberg, Pontus
$700,000
RW, LW
RFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
TOR
Rielly, Morgan
$5,000,000
LD
UFA - 3
TOR
Barrie, Tyson
$2,750,000
RD
UFA - 1
TOR
Andersen, Frederik
$5,000,000
G
NTC
UFA - 2
TOR
Muzzin, Jake
$4,000,000
LD
UFA - 1
MTL
Petry, Jeff
$5,500,000
RD
NMC NTC
UFA - 2
TOR
Campbell, Jack
$675,000
G
UFA - 1
TOR
Dermott, Travis
$863,333
LD
RFA - 1
TOR
Holl, Justin
$675,000
RD
UFA - 1
TOR
Sandin, Rasmus
$894,167
LD
RFA - 3
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
TOR
Clarkson, David
$5,250,000
RW
NMC NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Horton, Nathan
$5,300,000
RW
NMC NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Ceci, Cody
$4,500,000
RD
UFA - 1
TOR
Mikheyev, Ilya
$925,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1

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Feb 8 at 10:08
#1
Subbanator
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So Toronto gets the best forward in the trade, the best defenceman in the trad and the best prospect in the trade...
Feb 8 at 10:16
#2
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Quoting: Subbanator7667
So Toronto gets the best forward in the trade, the best defenceman in the trad and the best prospect in the trade...


Montreal gets a fast, skilled cost controlled player in Kappy.
Lily is a top prospect RHD that is much younger than Petry.
They also get a solid 4th line in Timashov who has offensive ski but also loves to hit everything in sight.

All players making Montreal better for the future.
Toronto is in a win now mind set so this trade makes sense.

Perhaps removing Romanov and Kokkonen would make more sense?
Feb 8 at 10:18
#3
Molson beer is meh
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Edited Feb 8 at 10:27
This has to be the worst trade on here I’ve seen in a while...

Edit: apologies, I’ll try and add something constructive.

Petry imo is worth a young roster player and top prospect or pick. So in this instance Kapanen + Liljegren, or Kapanen + 1st. Petry is a top pairing RD, and isn’t a rental, he’ll cost a premium. Not saying Leafs will pay that price, but MTL wouldn’t move him otherwise.

The other assets you added (Timashov, Kokkonen, and the 2nd) don’t even come close to getting you Domi alone.

Romanov isn’t for sale, period.
Feb 8 at 10:23
#4
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Quoting: Blazingbat11
This has to be the worst trade on here I’ve seen in a while...


Because....?
Feb 8 at 10:24
#5
Leafs
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romanov is like the habs equivalent of sandin. maybe not quite as good as sandin but he's not far off (and before people say that me saying sandin is better is leafs bias, the world juniors awards/stats speak for themselves). this doesn't even come close. also domi is no small upgrade over kapanen, he scored 72 points last year
Feb 8 at 10:29
#6
Molson beer is meh
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Quoting: Kongol
Because....?


Quoting: Blazingbat11
This has to be the worst trade on here I’ve seen in a while...

Edit: apologies, I’ll try and add something constructive.

Petry imo is worth a young roster player and top prospect or pick. So in this instance Kapanen + Liljegren, or Kapanen + 1st. Petry is a top pairing RD, and isn’t a rental, he’ll cost a premium. Not saying Leafs will pay that price, but MTL wouldn’t move him otherwise.

The other assets you added (Timashov, Kokkonen, and the 2nd) don’t even come close to getting you Domi alone.

Romanov isn’t for sale, period.
Feb 8 at 10:30
#7
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Quoting: Kongol
Montreal gets a fast, skilled cost controlled player in Kappy.
Lily is a top prospect RHD that is much younger than Petry.
They also get a solid 4th line in Timashov who has offensive ski but also loves to hit everything in sight.

All players making Montreal better for the future.
Toronto is in a win now mind set so this trade makes sense.

Perhaps removing Romanov and Kokkonen would make more sense?


Kappy isnt the type of player MTL is looking for because we have a couple versions of him already. Petry would cost Liligren plus a pick if traded, Domi would cost Toronto another 1st and high end prospect and Romanov is close to Sandin in value, so for the math.

All in all you're not giving anything g to MTL of actual value while taking away key pieces of now and future.
Feb 8 at 10:34
#8
Molson beer is meh
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Quoting: leafs101
romanov is like the habs equivalent of sandin. maybe not quite as good as sandin but he's not far off (and before people say that me saying sandin is better is leafs bias, the world juniors awards/stats speak for themselves). this doesn't even come close. also domi is no small upgrade over kapanen, he scored 72 points last year


I think you’re assessment of Romanov and Sandin is fair. They were only picked like 9spots from each other at the draft. Both are incredibly close, but Sandin has the edge in offensive ability, or at least has proven more so far. Romanov probably more well rounded and more physical, but a tad less offensive. He’s purely used in a defensive role on the KHL’s best team. Only chance we’ve been able to see his offensive game has been at the WJ’s
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Feb 8 at 10:37
#9
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Quoting: Blazingbat11
I think you’re assessment of Romanov and Sandin is fair. Both are incredibly close, but Sandin has the edge in offensive ability, or at least has proven more so far. Romanov probably more well rounded and more physical, but a tad less offensive. He’s purely used in a defensive role on the KHL’s best team. Only chance we’ve been able to see his offensive games have been at the WJ’s

yeah I think he might have been equating his value to more of a liligren which is just not accurate. leafs fans wouldn't trade sandin for something not mind blowing, and the rest of the trade aside, I'm sure MTL wouldn't either
Feb 8 at 10:41
#10
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Bergevin immediately hits the hang up button and blocks Dubas’s number.
Feb 8 at 10:53
#11
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Montreal obviously says no. My lord
Feb 8 at 11:07
#12
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
Montreal obviously says no. My lord


Keep in mind that Dubas was able to trade practically nothing for an elite goalie and Kyle Clifford at 50% salary!!!!

He could get this done. Fair value trade, perhaps more in MTL favor due to quantity and a high pick.
Feb 8 at 11:26
#13
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Quoting: Kongol
Keep in mind that Dubas was able to trade practically nothing for an elite goalie and Kyle Clifford at 50% salary!!!!

He could get this done. Fair value trade, perhaps more in MTL favor due to quantity and a high pick.


Wait what? Jack Campbell is a good backup goalie and Clifford is a 4th liner
Feb 8 at 12:50
#14
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
Wait what? Jack Campbell is a good backup goalie and Clifford is a 4th liner


He was also able to get this eras Bobby Orr in Barrie at half price!!
And we gave up a 3rd line C with poor discipline and attitude, and AHL D man and got a 2nd line winger who's younger and better to boot!!

He could pull this trade off make Bergevin think he won it!
 
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