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Real value of guys who are often traded in leafs AGMs

Created by: KingLundqvist30
Team: 2019-20 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Feb. 8, 2020
Published: Feb. 8, 2020
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This is all they are worth. I’m sick and tired of seeing them get traded for more than this.
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1.
TOR
  1. 2020 2nd round pick (ANA)
  2. 2021 5th round pick (ANA)
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TOR
  1. 2020 2nd round pick (CGY)
3.
TOR
  1. 2020 5th round pick (DET)
4.
TOR
  1. 2020 3rd round pick (VAN)
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C level prospect
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2020
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2021
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2022
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$75,279,643$0$470,000$6,220,357
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$11,634,000$11,634,000
C
UFA - 5
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$10,893,000$10,893,000
RW
UFA - 6
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$2,250,000$2,250,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$11,000,000$11,000,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 6
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$6,962,366$6,962,366
RW
UFA - 5
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$800,000$800,000
LW
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$700,000$700,000
C, RW
NTC
UFA - 1
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$694,444$694,444 (Performance Bonus$70,000$70K)
LW
UFA - 1
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$675,000$675,000
C
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD
UFA - 3
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$4,000,000$4,000,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$700,000$700,000
G
UFA - 1
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$894,167$894,167
LD
UFA - 3
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$400,000$400K)
RD
RFA - 3
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$675,000$675,000
G
UFA - 1
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$863,333$863,333
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$675,000$675,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$700,000$700,000
LD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$5,300,000$5,300,000
RW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
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$5,250,000$5,250,000
RW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1

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Feb. 8, 2020 at 6:55 p.m.
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Must be hard to swallow now when Georgiev didnt brought you in neither of the Kapanen, Johnsson or Kerfoot.....
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Feb. 8, 2020 at 6:55 p.m.
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No those guys are all worth more than that
Feb. 8, 2020 at 6:55 p.m.
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popcorn
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Feb. 8, 2020 at 6:56 p.m.
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Quoting: Laudan
Must be hard to swallow now when Georgiev didnt brought you in neither of the Kapanen, Johnsson or Kerfoot.....

IMO Georgiev should fetch the same thing Talbot got

2nd and a 3rd

Gorton is out of his mind thinking he’s worth a 1st+
Feb. 8, 2020 at 6:56 p.m.
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Quoting: papishark
No those guys are all worth more than that


How so? Break it down for me
Feb. 8, 2020 at 6:58 p.m.
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If that's all kerfopt is worth I'll take him right now
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Feb. 8, 2020 at 7:09 p.m.
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Jeremy Bracco is worth another change of scenery AHL player, not a 5th
Feb. 8, 2020 at 7:17 p.m.
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
Jeremy Bracco is worth another change of scenery AHL player, not a 5th


Bracco is traded cause random TML fanbase making threads and throwing assets they dont want but getting good players in return. Bracco will be just fine on 4th Line next year with Marchment and hopefully 800k re-signed Spezza. Hes one way player with good final pass ( so 4th line version of Marner )
Feb. 8, 2020 at 7:21 p.m.
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Quoting: KingLundqvist30
How so? Break it down for me


Think of players on other teams who play on top 2 lines....then compare to Toronto's top 2 lines.

Usually what happens is people just like to under value players on the Leafs top lines...why? I don't know...the hate? Of course it gets passed off as unbiased.
Feb. 8, 2020 at 7:23 p.m.
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Think of players on other teams who play on top 2 lines....then compare to Toronto's top 2 lines.

Usually what happens is people just like to under value players on the Leafs top lines...why? I don't know...the hate? Of course it gets passed off as unbiased.

It just amazes me how people think a guy with 31 points this year is worth a 1st +
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Feb. 8, 2020 at 7:30 p.m.
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But if you package all these guys together, with a couple 4th and 5th rounders of course, they’re worth a superstar player with retained salary!!!!!
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Feb. 8, 2020 at 7:38 p.m.
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Think that is a pretty fair assessment of the players, but could fetch more depending on other teams need.
Feb. 8, 2020 at 7:40 p.m.
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Quoting: KingLundqvist30
It just amazes me how people think a guy with 31 points this year is worth a 1st +


You truly know nothing about player values. Is shows with exactly what you have done here. Why is kappy worth a 1st ? Because he was a 1st round pick and is excelling in a limited role. Watch hockey, get off hockey dB and maybe listen to some people on this site.
Feb. 8, 2020 at 7:41 p.m.
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Quoting: Jfstompers
If that's all kerfopt is worth I'll take him right now

Clearly this guy is an angry little man.
Feb. 8, 2020 at 7:47 p.m.
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Quoting: Gofnut999
popcorn


Easy there Grocer!
Feb. 8, 2020 at 7:55 p.m.
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I, 100 percent agree with you. Leaf fans are the first to say that their players are all first line players and deserve to get a top return, but every other player on the other teams are overrated and can only bring a minimal amount.
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Feb. 8, 2020 at 7:55 p.m.
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Quoting: KingLundqvist30
How so? Break it down for me


LOl look at the stats dumb rangers fan
Feb. 8, 2020 at 7:56 p.m.
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Quoting: oneX
Think of players on other teams who play on top 2 lines....then compare to Toronto's top 2 lines.

Usually what happens is people just like to under value players on the Leafs top lines...why? I don't know...the hate? Of course it gets passed off as unbiased.


Remind me what Maroon got for playing a top 6 role? A 3rd. Those depth guys aren't worth nearly as much as you think.

Bracco? If his value is that high, how come Charles Hudon hasn't returned a 2nd + yet? Cause Hudon >> Bracci, and Hudon is worth a 5th at best.
Feb. 8, 2020 at 8:18 p.m.
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Trade Deadline is Capitalism at its Finest.

Supply Vs Demand =Value
what a players worth 10/12 months a year doesnt mean crap when 5 teams in the west are that are 2 points apart trying to keep a playoff spot and the same thing in the east with 5 in that position.

10 teams are active buyers and if they dont acquire the player chances are their rival will .
VGK over paid for Tatar who they never really tried working into his line up as they had 3 line scoring solid with chemistry .
but that year NSH was in the lead in the Tatar hunt and adding him could have screwed VGK come playoffs so they gave up a 1st , 2nd and a 3rd more then Hall got this year.

i could see COL doing it this year because they have all the cap and are built for a playoff run .
maybe they over pay for Kreider to ensure BOS and PIT dont get him in hopes a weaker team stands a better chance in upsetting them before a final appearance.
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Feb. 8, 2020 at 8:50 p.m.
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Guys guys guys!!! I think we can all admit that Toronto has some future HALL OF FAMERS in thier top 6, Mathews pretty much guaranteed, Tavares probably gets there, Marner keep it up kid and you're golden, Nylander eh not really, Reilly....maybe.....if he wins Norriss like Listrom....in his 30s.

So obviously the guys playin with all those guys are worth a 1st PLUS. Kapanen, Johnson, Kerfoot all deserving of more then listed above, I mean look at who they play with!!!
Feb. 8, 2020 at 8:58 p.m.
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Quoting: xNogaitx
Remind me what Maroon got for playing a top 6 role? A 3rd. Those depth guys aren't worth nearly as much as you think.

Bracco? If his value is that high, how come Charles Hudon hasn't returned a 2nd + yet? Cause Hudon >> Bracci, and Hudon is worth a 5th at best.


Quoting: xNogaitx
Remind me what Maroon got for playing a top 6 role? A 3rd. Those depth guys aren't worth nearly as much as you think.

Bracco? If his value is that high, how come Charles Hudon hasn't returned a 2nd + yet? Cause Hudon >> Bracci, and Hudon is worth a 5th at best.


Maroon was a UFA though, Kerfoot, Johnsson and Kapanen all have term left, those guys are definitely worth more then a 3rd.
Feb. 8, 2020 at 9:00 p.m.
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Guys guys guys!!! I think we can all admit that Toronto has some future HALL OF FAMERS in thier top 6, Mathews pretty much guaranteed, Tavares probably gets there, Marner keep it up kid and you're golden, Nylander eh not really, Reilly....maybe.....if he wins Norriss like Listrom....in his 30s.

So obviously the guys playin with all those guys are worth a 1st PLUS. Kapanen, Johnson, Kerfoot all deserving of more then listed above, I mean look at who they play with!!!


you've possibly made the worst argument possible completely confirming everything this guy said without knowing it .

who you play with inflates your numbers , it does not inflate your value .
if it did then Lucic would be an allstar
Feb. 8, 2020 at 9:00 p.m.
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Kapanen and Kerfoot are definitely worth more then what's proposed here, Bracco is likely worth less and Johnsson is probably worth a 2nd.
Feb. 8, 2020 at 9:57 p.m.
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Real value of Georgiev = Bracco plus a 3rd

You undervalued all our players. If Kapanen was going for a 2nd and a 5th every team in the league would have traded for him by now...
Feb. 8, 2020 at 10:02 p.m.
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Quoting: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan
Real value of Georgiev = Bracco plus a 3rd

You undervalued all our players. If Kapanen was going for a 2nd and a 5th every team in the league would have traded for him by now...


What do you think he’s worth then?
 
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