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Team: 2019-20 San Jose Sharks
Initial Creation Date: Feb. 9, 2020
Published: Feb. 9, 2020
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Description
Clearly this is out to lunch and not very realistic. Would like to hear any suggestions/ Criticisms of the trades so I can change them around a bit.
Trades
1.
SJS
  1. Mittelstadt, Casey
  2. 2020 2nd round pick (BUF)
BUF
  1. Couture, Logan
Additional Details:
Draft Trade
2.
SJS
  1. Stanley, Logan
  2. 2020 3rd round pick (WPG)
WPG
  1. Burns, Brent ($2,000,000 retained)
3.
SJS
  1. Timmins, Conor
  2. 2020 3rd round pick (TOR)
4.
SJS
  1. Backes, David
  2. 2020 1st round pick (BOS)
5.
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2020
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2021
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2022
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
28$81,500,000$67,177,416$660,750$1,295,000$14,322,584
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 4
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$5,625,000$5,625,000
C
UFA - 3
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
Logo of the San Jose Sharks
$925,000$925,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
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$700,000$700,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the San Jose Sharks
$700,000$700,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LW, C
RFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000
RW
RFA - 4
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
LW
NTC
UFA - 4
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$925,000$925,000
C
UFA - 1
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
C, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$700,000$700,000
C
UFA - 2
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$700,000$700,000
C
UFA - 1
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$763,333$763,333 (Performance Bonus$20,000$20K)
C, RW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$7,000,000$7,000,000
LD/RD
NMC
UFA - 7
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$10,000,000$10,000,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 8
Logo of the San Jose Sharks
$5,750,000$5,750,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 5
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$1,635,000$1,635,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$960,000$960,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$1,900,000$1,900,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the San Jose Sharks
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
LD
UFA - 3
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$800,000$800,000
RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the San Jose Sharks
$675,000$675,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Winnipeg Jets
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
LD
RFA - 2
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$925,000$925,000
RD
RFA - 2
Logo of the New York Islanders
$778,333$778,333
RD
UFA - 4
Logo of the New York Islanders
$2,500,000$2,500,000
LD
UFA - 3

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Feb. 9, 2020 at 3:18 a.m.
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Buffalo would likely need salary retained based on Couture’s age. We’d give you another 2nd however
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Feb. 9, 2020 at 3:32 a.m.
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Buffalo would likely need salary retained based on Couture’s age. We’d give you another 2nd however


I’ve mentioned this trade before. Most sabres fans seem to be on board (or desperate lol) it is a low return for couture but based on his contract I think it is fair. San Jose would not be able to retain that long, especially since I have the burns contract retained.

I think you have about 3 years of great 2c and then the decline. Where he could be pushed to the wing beside cozens or down to 3c. I think couture could contribute to some great C depth even in his decline.

Clearly buffalo would need to make some other moves. But I think that is inevitable.
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Feb. 9, 2020 at 5:51 a.m.
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Quoting: Jamiepo
I’ve mentioned this trade before. Most sabres fans seem to be on board (or desperate lol) it is a low return for couture but based on his contract I think it is fair. San Jose would not be able to retain that long, especially since I have the burns contract retained.

I think you have about 3 years of great 2c and then the decline. Where he could be pushed to the wing beside cozens or down to 3c. I think couture could contribute to some great C depth even in his decline.

Clearly buffalo would need to make some other moves. But I think that is inevitable.


I agree you can never have too many hard working, positive players in your locker room.
Feb. 9, 2020 at 8:57 a.m.
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Buffalo would do that trade all day.

All these sabres fans worried about logan couture in 6 years, when we have sucked forever.

He is an excellent player and a dynamite playoff performer. In 3 years, 8 million will be the going rate for a 2C
Feb. 9, 2020 at 8:57 a.m.
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Buffalo would likely need salary retained based on Couture’s age. We’d give you another 2nd however


no one is retaining for 7 years. get real.
Feb. 9, 2020 at 8:57 a.m.
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The Isles trade is meant to be a joke?
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Feb. 9, 2020 at 8:58 a.m.
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Quoting: Jamiepo
I’ve mentioned this trade before. Most sabres fans seem to be on board (or desperate lol) it is a low return for couture but based on his contract I think it is fair. San Jose would not be able to retain that long, especially since I have the burns contract retained.

I think you have about 3 years of great 2c and then the decline. Where he could be pushed to the wing beside cozens or down to 3c. I think couture could contribute to some great C depth even in his decline.

Clearly buffalo would need to make some other moves. But I think that is inevitable.


the trade is fine, an underpayment even.
Feb. 9, 2020 at 8:58 a.m.
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The Isles trade is meant to be a joke?


wrong karlsson perhaps?
Feb. 9, 2020 at 9:00 a.m.
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
wrong karlsson perhaps?


Even if Eric that would be bad, and not needed as the Isles already have 4 RD on playing.
Feb. 9, 2020 at 9:11 a.m.
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WTF IS THAT ISLES TRADE
Feb. 9, 2020 at 9:47 a.m.
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Neither Boston nor Thornton would consider that.

If Boston uses a 1st to move Backes they add to it and bring back something of value to help them.

Thotnton is a healthy scratch for Boston, the only player in the lineup he might bump is Nordstrom who plays a PK role.

He is playing 15mins a game. 2 goals, 14 hits, under 50% faceoff, does not kill penalties. He’s a waste of a roster spot, might as well just call Backes up and give him that role.

I understand the logic of dumping Backes future cap hit having value. But not at the expense of a #1 pick for nothing. Unlike Leafs they are not backed into a corner, they do not have to move him, it would be helpful to, just not a necessity.

Backes a 1st and a couple of mid level prospects for Labanc. Then B’s are interested.
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Feb. 9, 2020 at 11:38 a.m.
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Edited Feb. 9, 2020 at 11:54 a.m.
Quoting: AndrewLadd
WTF IS THAT ISLES TRADE


Quoting: Warrior24
The Isles trade is meant to be a joke?


8m pure cap dump for 3 years.

I may have gone a bit overboard but my idea was the islanders have 3 important rfa’s to sign and still want to add offensive depth.

Any suggestions on what you would be willing to give up?
Feb. 9, 2020 at 11:53 a.m.
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Neither Boston nor Thornton would consider that.

If Boston uses a 1st to move Backes they add to it and bring back something of value to help them.

Thotnton is a healthy scratch for Boston, the only player in the lineup he might bump is Nordstrom who plays a PK role.

He is playing 15mins a game. 2 goals, 14 hits, under 50% faceoff, does not kill penalties. He’s a waste of a roster spot, might as well just call Backes up and give him that role.

I understand the logic of dumping Backes future cap hit having value. But not at the expense of a #1 pick for nothing. Unlike Leafs they ate not backed into a corner, they do not have to move him, it would be helpful to, just not a necessity.

Backes a 1st and a couple of mid level prospects for Labanc. Then B’s are interested.


That’s fair. Just wanted to give jumbo another shot at the cup. Backes gets back into the nhl to retain some dignity and the Boston 1st will be very late.
Feb. 9, 2020 at 12:04 p.m.
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That’s fair. Just wanted to give jumbo another shot at the cup. Backes gets back into the nhl to retain some dignity and the Boston 1st will be very late.


Pasta was a late 1st. Carlo was an early 2nd. It’s not something you just piss away. Especially in a deep draft.

The other problem is after trading away the 1st the rest of the picks in 20 are off the table. So how do they bring in player they do need?
Feb. 9, 2020 at 12:08 p.m.
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Pasta was a late 1st. Carlo was an early 2nd. It’s not something you just piss away. Especially in a deep draft.


Yes but it’s percentages and value. You can’t trade a 1st like it’s pasta and 2nd like it’s Carlo.
Feb. 9, 2020 at 12:53 p.m.
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Yes but it’s percentages and value. You can’t trade a 1st like it’s pasta and 2nd like it’s Carlo.


True but you can’t just dismiss it because it’s a late first either. Heard so much of that lately and it’s lunacy.
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True but you can’t just dismiss it because it’s a late first either. Heard so much of that lately and it’s lunacy.


Nope, you’re right. Wasn’t trying to dismiss it. Just saying value wise to take on his cap hit. I really didn’t spend much time on the Boston Trade. Just a bad contract off the top of my head. The islanders I spent a bit more time with... that seems to have blown up in my face.

My plan was to get rid of bad contracts while it’s still possible (if it is) use cap space to take on bad deals while rebuilding and get some picks/prospects in return.
Feb. 9, 2020 at 1:21 p.m.
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Quoting: Jamiepo
8m pure cap dump for 3 years.

I may have gone a bit overboard but my idea was the islanders have 3 important rfa’s to sign and still want to add offensive depth.

Any suggestions on what you would be willing to give up?


First of all I woke up on the wrong side of the bed so sorry for the aggressive comment. Anyways, the isles don’t have too many primary trade chips we can afford to lose, so I’d rather trade them to get scoring rather than clear space. IMO, we should have enough cap space if we trade Leddy and buyout Leo. Ladd will probably hit LTIR anyway in the near future, and hickey might too, he’s had an injury a lot of the season and there’s been no word on him. As for the trade, isles aren’t gonna trade Wahlstrom, and I’d b reluctant to trade the first this year unless it’s for a guy with term (who’s good.) Wilde could be had, but if we traded for scoring he’s the guy we’d probably ship out. Hope this helped
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Feb. 9, 2020 at 5:51 p.m.
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Quoting: Jamiepo
I’ve mentioned this trade before. Most sabres fans seem to be on board (or desperate lol) it is a low return for couture but based on his contract I think it is fair. San Jose would not be able to retain that long, especially since I have the burns contract retained.

I think you have about 3 years of great 2c and then the decline. Where he could be pushed to the wing beside cozens or down to 3c. I think couture could contribute to some great C depth even in his decline.

Clearly buffalo would need to make some other moves. But I think that is inevitable.


Here's a scenario, Buffalo has #10 Overall after the lottery.

10th Overall and Mitts for Couture; however it would depend on salary retention. I understand 7 years in a long time but 7 years at 8 mil is extremely risky and is just as likely to blow up in our faces.
Feb. 9, 2020 at 5:53 p.m.
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Here's a scenario, Buffalo has #10 Overall after the lottery.

10th Overall and Mitts for Couture; however it would depend on salary retention. I understand 7 years in a long time but 7 years at 8 mil is extremely risky and is just as likely to blow up in our faces.


Nope, I don’t think either team should make that deal.
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Feb. 10, 2020 at 2:22 a.m.
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Sabres would begrudgingly do that trade
I say begrudgingly bc Botts first ever draft pick was Mittelstadt,
and he probably thinks he will still work out for us

That said,
He’s gotta be under pressure to win next year for sure
So even though Couture is older than we’d probably i like,
I can’t see us passing him up
And i think we might even have to add another asset to make it happen
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