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Team: 2020-21 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Feb. 9, 2020
Published: Feb. 9, 2020
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$850,000
3$3,250,000
2$1,250,000
1$2,500,000
1$900,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$700,000
1$700,000
1$900,000
1$1,250,000
Trades
TOR
  1. Manson, Josh
  2. 2021 5th round pick (ANA)
ANA
  1. Johnsson, Andreas
  2. Liljegren, Timothy
  3. 2021 2nd round pick (TOR)
  4. 2022 3rd round pick (TOR)
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2020
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2021
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2022
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$83,500,000$80,174,783$0$0$3,325,217
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$2,250,000$2,250,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$11,640,250$11,640,250
C
UFA - 4
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$6,962,366$6,962,366
RW
UFA - 4
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$11,000,000$11,000,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 5
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$10,903,000$10,903,000
RW
UFA - 5
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$1,250,000$1,250,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
LW, C, RW
UFA - 3
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$3,200,000$3,200,000
RW
UFA - 2
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$900,000$900,000
LW
UFA - 1
$900,000$900,000
RW, C
UFA - 1
$700,000$700,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$2,050,000$2,050,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$3,250,000$3,250,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$1,650,000$1,650,000
G
UFA - 2
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$894,167$894,167
LD
UFA - 2
$1,250,000$1,250,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
$700,000$700,000
RD
UFA
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$775,000$775,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$700,000$700,000
LD
UFA - 1

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Feb. 9, 2020 at 6:41 a.m.
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Sam Gagner? Instead of re-signing Fred Gauthier?

Stefan Noesen? Instead of promoting Jeremy Bracco?

That's not a bad trade for Josh Manson, and beggars can't be choosers, but I think the prerequisite for any Manson trade is a 2020 second.
Feb. 9, 2020 at 7:04 a.m.
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Quoting: OldNYIfan
Sam Gagner? Instead of re-signing Fred Gauthier?

Stefan Noesen? Instead of promoting Jeremy Bracco?

That's not a bad trade for Josh Manson, and beggars can't be choosers, but I think the prerequisite for any Manson trade is a 2020 second.


Gagner is better than Gauthier and Bracco I suppose you could just use on the fourth line, but I'm not sure if it'd be good for his development.
Feb. 9, 2020 at 7:56 a.m.
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Were not gonna trade Liljegren he is really good
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Feb. 9, 2020 at 9:13 a.m.
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Liljegren looks like he'll be better than Manson next week ....
Feb. 9, 2020 at 10:20 a.m.
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Quoting: drewjenks
Liljegren looks like he'll be better than Manson next week ....


I think you meant last week. Manson hasn't been good for 2 years and Liljegren really looks like exactly what TO needs. He's fast, can handle the puck and is generally always in the right position. I have liked how he's played.
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Feb. 10, 2020 at 7:18 p.m.
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Quoting: Hockeytor15
Were not gonna trade Liljegren he is really good


Quoting: PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood
I think you meant last week. Manson hasn't been good for 2 years and Liljegren really looks like exactly what TO needs. He's fast, can handle the puck and is generally always in the right position. I have liked how he's played.



This proposal essentially says Josh Manson's trade value = 1st + 1st + 2nd + 3rd

Timothy Liljegren = mid 1st round pick (10-20 overall) = 20 year old who currently looks like a steal of a 17th pick (29 points in 37 AHL games this season).
Andre Johnsson = late 1st round pick (20-30 overall) = 25 year old on a cheap 4-year deal who has averaged 48 points per 82 games since his NHL debut.
2nd round pick = 2021 2nd rounder (40-60 overall)
3rd round pick = 2022 3rd rounder (70-90 overall)

Manson is 28 and has been on a steady decline for two seasons.
He has 25 points in his last 130 games (15 points per 82 games).
He's only been slightly above average defensively since 2017-18.

Something like Liljegren or Johnsson straight up would be much more reasonable (though I wouldn't trade Liljegren for him).
Feb. 10, 2020 at 7:34 p.m.
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Quoting: drewjenks
This proposal essentially says Josh Manson's trade value = 1st + 1st + 2nd + 3rd

Timothy Liljegren = mid 1st round pick (10-20 overall) = 20 year old who currently looks like a steal of a 17th pick (29 points in 37 AHL games this season).
Andre Johnsson = late 1st round pick (20-30 overall) = 25 year old on a cheap 4-year deal who has averaged 48 points per 82 games since his NHL debut.
2nd round pick = 2021 2nd rounder (40-60 overall)
3rd round pick = 2022 3rd rounder (70-90 overall)

Manson is 28 and has been on a steady decline for two seasons.
He has 25 points in his last 130 games (15 points per 82 games).
He's only been slightly above average defensively since 2017-18.

Something like Liljegren or Johnsson straight up would be much more reasonable (though I wouldn't trade Liljegren for him).


What the heck are you dumb. Take of one of the first cause he is not that good. he is worth 1,2,2,3. Manson has been good for only 2 seasons and hasn't even been great this year. He is only good on defense so he is a one way player.

Liljegren is 20 (I think) and already has a great start extremely good on both ends. If we keep Liljegren will be better than Manson so were keeping him
Feb. 10, 2020 at 7:52 p.m.
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Quoting: Hockeytor15
What the heck are you dumb. Take of one of the first cause he is not that good. he is worth 1,2,2,3. Manson has been good for only 2 seasons and hasn't even been great this year. He is only good on defense so he is a one way player.

Liljegren is 20 (I think) and already has a great start extremely good on both ends. If we keep Liljegren will be better than Manson so were keeping him


You should have read his whole thing. He agrees with you.
Feb. 10, 2020 at 9:06 p.m.
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Quoting: Hockeytor15
What the heck are you dumb. Take of one of the first cause he is not that good. he is worth 1,2,2,3. Manson has been good for only 2 seasons and hasn't even been great this year. He is only good on defense so he is a one way player. Liljegren is 20 (I think) and already has a great start extremely good on both ends. If we keep Liljegren will be better than Manson so were keeping him


Gotta love the irony in your first sentence.

Also - I don't think Manson is even worth a 1st + 2nd + 2nd + 3rd as you stated.

His value should be in the same range as someone like JT Miller (a top 15 protected 1st + 3rd).


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You should have read his whole thing. He agrees with you.


Thank you.
 
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