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THIS is what The Penguins NEED to do and Should do - Read all or dont comment

Created by: Sidstick87
Initial Creation Date: Feb 5, 2020
Published: Feb 9, 2020 at 7:33
Team: 2019-20 Pittsburgh Penguins
Team Explanation
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YES, I KNOW I HAVE - 25 ROSTER PLAYER - BUT - isn't there always at least 2-4 Pens players hurt??

*** The Pens need as much depth as they can possibly get w/ this injury prone team!!!

- If 59 could come back by 2nd Rd - This team would be scary.

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TRADES - "Breakdowns"

DALLAS Trade:
Galchenyuk FOR Janmark w/ DAL sending a 4th Rdr for PIT retaining $$
- I think we can all agree that Sully hates Chucky & he isn't fitting here.
- I always liked Janmark's game & his work rate, would fit in perfect w/ Pens + his style could be a nice fit w/ Geno.


ANAHEIM Trade:
Addison, A. Johnson, 20'- 1st Rdr, & a Conditional 2nd or 3rd FOR Rakell & Stolarz
- I looked at B. Schenn trade for a Rakell trade comparison - Schenn got 2-1st Rdr's and a bad cap hit guy back....
So IMO, A very good future Top 4 RHD Prospect, 1st Rdr, & a 2nd or 3rd Rdr is a much better deal than what Schenn got back.
* Also added A. Johnson for Stolarz too.
- IMO, Rakell is EXACTLY what the Pens need - A top line guy, that can also play that Left wall spot (Kessel) on PP - (Kill 2 birds with 1 stone)


NJD Trade:
DeSmith for Greene - Strait Up
- Greene is purely a rental for PIT but DeSmith could be an above avg & cheap back-up for Blackwood for next 2 yrs
- IMO, Greene is 2016 Ron Hainsey 2.0 - He is still a very good Dman that can still skate & move puck even at 37.


BUFFALO Trade:
Knott & 5th Rdr FOR Girgensons
- I always thought Girgensons would have been better than he got in BUF. Maybe a change could boost his game ??
He plays a smart and physical game that the Pens lack & could be useful in a playoff run.
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Trades
PIT
  1. Janmark, Mattias
  2. 2021 4th round pick (DAL)
DAL
  1. Galchenyuk, Alex ($2,000,000 retained)
PIT
  1. Rakell, Rickard
  2. Stolarz, Anthony
ANA
  1. Addison, Calen
  2. Johnson, Adam
  3. 2020 1st round pick (PIT)
  4. 2021 2nd round pick (PIT)
Additional Details:
2021 2nd Rdr is a Conditional Pick
ANA retains 2021 - 2nd Rdr if PIT gets to Cup Finals or Wins Cup this season, if neither happens pick becomes 2021 3rd round pick.
PIT
  1. Greene, Andy
NJD
  1. DeSmith, Casey
PIT
  1. Girgensons, Zemgus ($600,000 retained)
BUF
  1. Knott, Graham
  2. 2020 5th round pick (PIT)
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Alex Galchenyuk: $2,000,000 (40.82%)
  • Nick Bjugstad: $2,050,000 (50%)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
PIT
PIT
PIT
2021
PIT
PIT
DAL
PIT
PIT
ANA
2022
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
25$81,500,000$81,371,069$132,500$3,700,000$128,931

Roster

Left WingCenterRight Wing
PIT
McCann, Jared
$1,250,000
LW, C
RFA - 1
PIT
Crosby, Sidney
$8,700,000
C
NMC
UFA - 6
ANA
Rakell, Rickard
$3,789,444
RW, LW
UFA - 3
DAL
Janmark, Mattias
$2,300,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
PIT
Malkin, Evgeni
$9,500,000
C
NMC
UFA - 3
PIT
Rust, Bryan
$3,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 3
PIT
Kahun, Dominik
$925,000
LW, RW, C
UFA - 1
PIT
Bjugstad, Nick
$2,050,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
PIT
Hörnqvist, Patric
$5,300,000
RW
NTC
UFA - 4
PIT
Aston-Reese, Zach
$1,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
PIT
Blueger, Teddy
$750,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
PIT
Tanev, Brandon
$3,500,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 6
BUF
Girgensons, Zemgus
$1,000,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
PIT
Dumoulin, Brian
$4,100,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 4
PIT
Letang, Kris
$7,250,000
RD
NMC NTC
UFA - 3
PIT
Murray, Matt
$3,750,000
G
UFA - 1
NJD
Greene, Andy
$5,000,000
LD/RD
NTC
UFA - 1
PIT
Schultz, Justin
$5,500,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 1
PIT
Jarry, Tristan
$675,000
G
UFA - 1
PIT
Pettersson, Marcus
$874,125
LD
UFA - 1
PIT
Marino, John
$925,000
RD
UFA - 2
PIT
Johnson, Jack
$3,250,000
LD
UFA - 4
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
PIT
Simon, Dominik
$750,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
PIT
Guentzel, Jake
$6,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 5
PIT
Riikola, Juuso
$850,000
LD
UFA - 1
PIT
Ruhwedel, Chad
$700,000
RD
UFA - 2

Special Teams

Power Play 1
Rakell, R.
Hörnqvist, P.
Crosby, S.
Letang, K.
Malkin, E.
Power Play 2
Bjugstad, N.
Rust, B.
McCann, J.
Schultz, J.
Greene, A.
Penalty Kill 1
Letang, K.
Dumoulin, B.
Tanev, B.
Blueger, T.
Penalty Kill 2
Pettersson, M.
Marino, J.
Rust, B.
Aston-Reese, Z.

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Feb 9, 2020 at 7:37
#1
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This is complete craziness, I don't understand any of this!

I probably should have read the title and description
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Feb 9, 2020 at 7:42
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It’d be hard to lose Addison in an anaheim trade and not get manson back in return or getting miller from buffalo with maybe a mid-late pick.
Feb 9, 2020 at 7:44
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Quoting: Shifttee
This is complete craziness, I don't understand any of this!

I probably should have read the title and description
You literally disobeyed all this dude said?. I find the concepts decent imo
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Feb 9, 2020 at 7:45
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Only one of these I wouldn't do is Desmith for Andy Greene and I'd rather keep Galchenyuk for scoring depth but the Rakell trade is good and I wouldn't be opposed to getting Girgensons as depth
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Feb 9, 2020 at 7:49
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I didn't read any of it, because like when telling a joke, if you need to explain it it doesn't work. Especially about 5 paragraphs worth of explanation.
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Feb 9, 2020 at 8:08
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Quoting: Jesus
Only one of these I wouldn't do is Desmith for Andy Greene and I'd rather keep Galchenyuk for scoring depth but the Rakell trade is good and I wouldn't be opposed to getting Girgensons as depth


Wo seeing why?
DeSmith is now their AHLer correct?
Andy is great depth and a good fit for teams like pitt
Feb 9, 2020 at 8:12
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Quoting: Smitty426
Wo seeing why?
DeSmith is now their AHLer correct?
Andy is great depth and a good fit for teams like pitt


Because we probably won't be able to afford both Murray and Jarry next year so after we trade one of them Desmith would be the backup so we can't just give him up for a rental defenseman we could probably get for a 3rd or 4th rounder
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Feb 9, 2020 at 8:24
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Green doean't get traded to the penguins.

Rakell doesn't fix the power play because the problem isn't "having someone on the left wall"
If you watched the games you'd know they can't even enter the zone to set up so there is someone on the left wall.
They either dump the puck in with Dmen who are back and ready to just sent it right back out, or putz around a bad pass unable to cross the blue line.
Their PP sucks, and it has nothing to do with the players. It has everything to do with the coaching and the "game plan"
What they miss is Phil being able to skate the puck into the zone and make the right read on the 1st pass. Rakell doesn't fix that problem.
Not that I wouldn't like to see Rakell I would. But it's a pipe dream. ANA has no reason to trade him without it being a massive overpay that isn't worth it.
Feb 9, 2020 at 8:36
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im not sure if I would do the deal to get Greene, for reasons stated above, DeSmith is critical goalie depth for after this season. But for this season alone getting Greene could really help with all the injuries to the defense.

I would love for the Rakkell deal to happen but I don't think Anaheim really wants to trade him. He is exactly what the pens need and the deal to get him in this scenario would be reasonable but from what I have heard the duck want to hang on to him unfortunately.

I could see the other two legitimately happening though.
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Feb 9, 2020 at 8:59
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Analytics are good
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The New Jersey trade is beyond stupid
Feb 9, 2020 at 10:32
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Addison isn't an NHL lock. You're gonna have to do better for that Ducks package.
Feb 10, 2020 at 11:05
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Quoting: pharrow
Green doean't get traded to the penguins.

Rakell doesn't fix the power play because the problem isn't "having someone on the left wall"
If you watched the games you'd know they can't even enter the zone to set up so there is someone on the left wall.
They either dump the puck in with Dmen who are back and ready to just sent it right back out, or putz around a bad pass unable to cross the blue line.
Their PP sucks, and it has nothing to do with the players. It has everything to do with the coaching and the "game plan"
What they miss is Phil being able to skate the puck into the zone and make the right read on the 1st pass. Rakell doesn't fix that problem.
Not that I wouldn't like to see Rakell I would. But it's a pipe dream. ANA has no reason to trade him without it being a massive overpay that isn't worth it.


Rakell is actually leading ANA in zone entry % on PP, so yes he would help there and on left wall PP.
I'm just saying, if u need to get a top 6 guy, why not get a guy that can also help on PP too.
ANA is so bad, that they could deal anyone & they have young players or prospects at every position except RHD.
Feb 10, 2020 at 11:08
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Quoting: awesome
im not sure if I would do the deal to get Greene, for reasons stated above, DeSmith is critical goalie depth for after this season. But for this season alone getting Greene could really help with all the injuries to the defense.

I would love for the Rakkell deal to happen but I don't think Anaheim really wants to trade him. He is exactly what the pens need and the deal to get him in this scenario would be reasonable but from what I have heard the duck want to hang on to him unfortunately.

I could see the other two legitimately happening though.


Ive been trading for Rakell for like 5 yrs now, lol
and finally it could be a slightly real chance, just excited

I replaced Desmith w/ Stolarz
Feb 10, 2020 at 11:09
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Quoting: PenGoater99
The New Jersey trade is beyond stupid


Beyond stupid could mean good, depending what u think is beyond it?
Feb 10, 2020 at 11:10
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Quoting: Yojimbo
I didn't read any of it, because like when telling a joke, if you need to explain it it doesn't work. Especially about 5 paragraphs worth of explanation.


I did get kind of involved in this huh?? LOL
Feb 10, 2020 at 11:38
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Quoting: Sidstick87
I did get kind of involved in this huh?? LOL


Audition for a writing job?
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Feb 10, 2020 at 3:15
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Quoting: Yojimbo
Audition for a writing job?


lol, Im an all or nothing kind of person... So when I start a Cap friendly team... My A.D.D. kicks in and I go all nutty
Feb 10, 2020 at 5:17
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Quoting: Sidstick87
Rakell is actually leading ANA in zone entry % on PP, so yes he would help there and on left wall PP.
I'm just saying, if u need to get a top 6 guy, why not get a guy that can also help on PP too.
ANA is so bad, that they could deal anyone & they have young players or prospects at every position except RHD.


Like I said. I'd like to see him too.
But here is reality. You are the ANA GM right now. Do you deal him.
No you don't. Because you probably aren't replacing him with picks. You get picks to find the rare gem like him.
And while I think Addison will be a decent player, He's a guy you have to hide in the end due to his size. Much like Krug.
You don't trade top RWs who are 30 goal scorers for that and hope and dreams you hit on your pick.
ANA has no incentive to move him. They are a better team with him than without and they got him for a long time going forward. If he was on the end of a deal that's a different issue. But he's not.
 
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